Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v2

[coolface1572]

How would Joe Biden do against trump if he picked Debbie Wasserman Schultz as his vp? How about Dan Lipinski?

[With you in spirit]

oh lord no

[Bidenworth2020]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

[swf541]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

[Progressive Pessimist]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

[Podgy the Bear]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

[Beet]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

[Bidenworth2020]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

Since the start of her rise, she simply hasn't.

[Beet]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

Since the start of her rise, she simply hasn't.

1+1 simply equals 3.

[Bidenworth2020]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

Since the start of her rise, she simply hasn't.

1+1 simply equals 3.

I mean, this is pretty well documented, so I don't really know how to rebut this lol.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

Since the start of her rise, she simply hasn't.

1+1 simply equals 3.

I mean, this is pretty well documented, so I don't really know how to rebut this lol.

I think she’s been scrutinized, it just hasn’t resulted in negative coverage until the M4A attacks started flying because she’d left little room for good-faith criticism with her other plans.

[Bidenworth2020]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

Since the start of her rise, she simply hasn't.

1+1 simply equals 3.

I mean, this is pretty well documented, so I don't really know how to rebut this lol.

I think she’s been scrutinized, it just hasn’t resulted in negative coverage until the M4A attacks started flying because she’d left little room for good-faith criticism with her other plans.

Fair. Her campaign, for the most part, has been near perfect.

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1193121108490424321

[coolface1572]

Biden supporters:
Watch this clip of Biden and tell me if you think he can win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXFB6UFi9SE

Note: This is not an endorsement or ad for Secular Talk. This is just the only clip of this speech I could find.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Trump is just as gaffe prone as Biden, the two are similar. AA and Latino voters arent galvanizing behind Warren, and still galvanizing behind Biden

[SN2903]

Trump is just as gaffe prone as Biden, the two are similar. AA and Latino voters arent galvanizing behind Warren, and still galvanizing behind Biden

The different is Trump doesn't get judged for his gaffes and Biden will because he is supposed to be the "presidential candidate."

[GP270watch]

 Trump has some kind of blanket immunity with his dumb base, even some liberals bend over backwards to excuse all his faults. Biden just looks out of it. He's run an awful campaign where he's not just gaffe prone, he looks ancient and befuddled at many times.

[ProudModerate2]

Trump is just as gaffe prone as Biden, the two are similar. AA and Latino voters arent galvanizing behind Warren, and still galvanizing behind Biden

The different is Trump doesn't get judged for his gaffes and Biden will because he is supposed to be the "presidential candidate."

Yes you're right.
trump simply "gets judged" for constantly behaving like a narcissistic man-child and being the "a$$hole candidate."
That is so much better than being known for gaffes.

[Illini Moderate]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

While I agree with your point about Bernie (and was frustrated with his constant positive coverage in 2016) your point about Warren is wrong. Warren has been enjoying an nice long ass kissing from the media ever since her DNA test scandal blew over (for now). Meanwhile, Biden gets tore apart anytime he says the wrong word in a speech, his whole past record is tore apart, and the media insinuates that he's completely senile.

Warren has lied about her race to get ahead in her career, possibly lied about being fired for her pregnancy, and has acted like she's the only Democrat in the race who is "pure" enough to be running. The media hasn't given her an ounce of criticism for 6 months and and its refreshing that people are finally starting to call her out.

Her constant insinuation that anyone who doesn't fully support all aspects of her M4A and the GND plan are running in the wrong primary IS elitist and smug. If Trump wasn't the Republican running, I would actually consider not voting for her in the GE for insinuating that Democrats who don't agree with her to the fullest on all her policies should be Republicans. Sorry we have slightly different ideas on the right plans to achieve the same goals Lizzie.

[Illini Moderate]

Biden is much better at running against Republicans than competing in a Democratic primary. He cant pull the "malarkey" card on more progressive Dems because he will alienate their die-hard supporters. If he is the nominee he will fair much better campaigning against Trump. He's the moderate in the race right now. He's arguing for plans with a better chance of passing, and unfortunately primary voters don't value realism. They want inspiration and bold (sometimes unrealistic) promises.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

One thing to consider with Biden v. Warren-- Biden has been meticulously scrutinized for every gaffe, every slip-up in logic, while Warren's coverage has been all positive essentially. Despite this dynamic being clear since early summer at least, Biden STILL leads in almost every national poll and does 2-3 better than Warren in GE polling. If Warren actually starts receiving bad coverage, she'll drop like a rock. Biden just hasn't.

Great point, the scrutinization of Warren hasnt really been a thing yet

It hasn't? What about her plan for funding her Medicare-For-All plan?

It just happened--which has caused her to stall in the polls.  And they haven't begun to emphasize her stands on student debt wipeout and then reparations for slavery,

Warren has been relentlessly scrutinized, and not just recently. The media had already left her campaign for dead in the spring. The amnesia is astonishing.

If anyone hasn't been scrutinized it's Bernie. He's been running with no demands to fund his M4All at all because he's taken so little seriously (which is a mistake). And despite just having a heart attack he's been able to get away with not releasing his medical records-- something most other candidates would not get away with.

While I agree with your point about Bernie (and was frustrated with his constant positive coverage in 2016) your point about Warren is wrong. Warren has been enjoying an nice long ass kissing from the media ever since her DNA test scandal blew over (for now). Meanwhile, Biden gets tore apart anytime he says the wrong word in a speech, his whole past record is tore apart, and the media insinuates that he's completely senile.

Warren has lied about her race to get ahead in her career, possibly lied about being fired for her pregnancy, and has acted like she's the only Democrat in the race who is "pure" enough to be running. The media hasn't given her an ounce of criticism for 6 months and and its refreshing that people are finally starting to call her out.

Her constant insinuation that anyone who doesn't fully support all aspects of her M4A and the GND plan are running in the wrong primary IS elitist and smug. If Trump wasn't the Republican running, I would actually consider not voting for her in the GE for insinuating that Democrats who don't agree with her to the fullest on all her policies should be Republicans. Sorry we have slightly different ideas on the right plans to achieve the same goals Lizzie.

Completely agreed. Warren, an unlikeable, unpopular, de facto socialist with a dirty record and an arrogant persona is probably the true best candidate for Republicans to oppose (of the top 4 Ds), since at least Sanders comes across as pretty genuine and "real".

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The ongoing spotlight on Hunter Biden, is gonna affect Biden's standing in the primary, that's why Warren leads in some polls and other polls she doesnt. Biden still is being tagged with corruption

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

The ongoing spotlight on Hunter Biden, is gonna affect Biden's standing in the primary, that's why Warren leads in some polls and other polls she doesnt. Biden still is being tagged with corruption

I think it's more just that he's old.

[Bidenworth2020]

The ongoing spotlight on Hunter Biden, is gonna affect Biden's standing in the primary, that's why Warren leads in some polls and other polls she doesnt. Biden still is being tagged with corruption

I think it's more just that he's old.

That has not really damaged him, despite the fact it has been apparent for a while.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

If Biden can win NH I think there will be no stopping him.  I still think he's going to win without it though.