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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2019, 04:48:33 PM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again! AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll

How is this true? I'm not sure how a freshman member of Congress could wield such influence.

Two words for ya': Tea....Party.
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2019, 04:50:04 PM »

On the other hand, can you just imagine where things would be if Hoyer took over?
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2019, 04:54:23 PM »

On the other hand, can you just imagine where things would be if Hoyer took over?

One might say Hoyer would love to hang a progressive dissenter. Wink
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2019, 05:03:01 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is f-cking useless

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2019, 05:20:09 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is f-cking useless



Explain to me the point of handing Trump victories. You know the Senate will never convict.
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2019, 05:57:32 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is f-cking useless



The same Nancy Pelosi that help get universal health care passed in the house? The same Nancy Pelosi that has gone toe to toe on Trump's policies?

Look, I disagree with what she's said and hope we can get a congressional invesitgation Acostoa. What I don't stand is the slander towards a women that has been determinable in fostering the political shape of the last 15 years. One of the most powerful house speakers our party has had since the days of Tip O'Neil. In the self-interest for the Democratic Party let's start defending Pelosi before the right wing gain narrative of the inter-conflict that is being played out.
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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2019, 06:08:15 PM »

She gives them way too much attention through simple acknowledgement.

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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2019, 06:40:51 PM »

She gives them way too much attention through simple acknowledgement.




AOC is already a recognizable household name. 
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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2019, 06:51:57 PM »

Pelosi is awful and her lackey Hakeem Jeffries will be the same if not worse.

Oh boy. When Hakeem Jeffries takes the helm, we'll be begging for Pelosi back.
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« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2019, 07:09:06 PM »

Pelosi is awful and her lackey Hakeem Jeffries will be the same if not worse.

Oh boy. When Hakeem Jeffries takes the helm, we'll be begging for Pelosi back.

Adam Schiff would be a great Speaker.
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« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2019, 10:00:31 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is f-cking useless



The same Nancy Pelosi that help get universal health care passed in the house? The same Nancy Pelosi that has gone toe to toe on Trump's policies?

Look, I disagree with what she's said and hope we can get a congressional invesitgation Acostoa. What I don't stand is the slander towards a women that has been determinable in fostering the political shape of the last 15 years. One of the most powerful house speakers our party has had since the days of Tip O'Neil. In the self-interest for the Democratic Party let's start defending Pelosi before the right wing gain narrative of the inter-conflict that is being played out.
It's not slander. It's fact. I and thousands of others worked our asses off to get her a House Majority for her to do.... absolutely nothing substantial to hold Trump and his criminal cabinet accountable. I will say whatever I want to say.
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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2019, 10:03:18 PM »

Pelosi's counter strike is effective strategy to go against the attacks perpetuated by the Justice Democrats, who want everything in their power to change the party for a far-left white base dwelling in gratification Brooklyn. None of these dip knots have ever pass anything close to a legitimate legislative bill that has changed the lives of the working person. Pelosi on the other hand has spent years on being one of the strictest advocates for progressive change in America.
Pelosi has talked like a progressive (at times), but when it's time to actually deliver, she ALWAYS delivers for the establishment and corporate America, unless it's a non-economic issue. Calling Pelosi a progressive is a cringe humorless joke.
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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2019, 10:07:29 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is f-cking useless



The same Nancy Pelosi that help get universal health care passed in the house? The same Nancy Pelosi that has gone toe to toe on Trump's policies?

Look, I disagree with what she's said and hope we can get a congressional invesitgation Acostoa. What I don't stand is the slander towards a women that has been determinable in fostering the political shape of the last 15 years. One of the most powerful house speakers our party has had since the days of Tip O'Neil. In the self-interest for the Democratic Party let's start defending Pelosi before the right wing gain narrative of the inter-conflict that is being played out.
It's not slander. It's fact. I and thousands of others worked our asses off to get her a House Majority for her to do.... absolutely nothing substantial to hold Trump and his criminal cabinet accountable. I will say whatever I want to say.

Anyone thinking that Pelosi was going to do much to stand up to Trump never saw how much she increased the bloated military budgets for Bush.
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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2019, 10:32:52 PM »

Pelosi is kinda becoming an embarrassment. Everybody knows the Senate won't do anything esp. convict an impeached president, but it's ridiculous for her not only to not do anything, but to instead A.) attack her own party B.) refuse to do anything about Acosta C.) force a republican funding bill through the house that wouldn't include any provisions for protecting migrants and D.) shrugged when trump had yet another rape accusation leveled against him.

This constant BS about "well we're here to do what's best for the American people" is such a joke. If a Republican senate won't pass any progressive bills, she might has well just turn her attention towards impeaching Trump now and putting it on the record, as well as continuing to investigate all the evil crap around him and his people. Instead she's just sitting around attacking lefty Dems. Yuck.
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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2019, 10:55:23 PM »

Pelosi's counter strike is effective strategy to go against the attacks perpetuated by the Justice Democrats, who want everything in their power to change the party for a far-left white base dwelling in gratification Brooklyn. None of these dip knots have ever pass anything close to a legitimate legislative bill that has changed the lives of the working person. Pelosi on the other hand has spent years on being one of the strictest advocates for progressive change in America.
Pelosi has talked like a progressive (at times), but when it's time to actually deliver, she ALWAYS delivers for the establishment and corporate America, unless it's a non-economic issue. Calling Pelosi a progressive is a cringe humorless joke.

To be fair to Pelosi, "ALWAYS delivers for the establishment and corporate America, unless it's a non-economic issue" is a fair summation of the 21st century Democratic party. There's the odd exception, but by and large that's what they do.  It's awful (marginally less awful than Trump and the GOP, but still awful) but it's not like if she she wasn't there that would be different.
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2019, 11:35:49 PM »

The part that is so infuriating about the impeachment fight is that if the situation was reversed the republican mentality would be to impeach and when a dem senate does nothing make it a referendum in the next election. Seriously how much more of a slam dunk can you get then Trump ordering aides who don’t work for him anymore to ignore subpoenas? Or his actions with the census?
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« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2019, 01:55:44 AM »

Pelosi's counter strike is effective strategy to go against the attacks perpetuated by the Justice Democrats, who want everything in their power to change the party for a far-left white base dwelling in gratification Brooklyn. None of these dip knots have ever pass anything close to a legitimate legislative bill that has changed the lives of the working person. Pelosi on the other hand has spent years on being one of the strictest advocates for progressive change in America.
Pelosi has talked like a progressive (at times), but when it's time to actually deliver, she ALWAYS delivers for the establishment and corporate America, unless it's a non-economic issue. Calling Pelosi a progressive is a cringe humorless joke.

To be fair to Pelosi, "ALWAYS delivers for the establishment and corporate America, unless it's a non-economic issue" is a fair summation of the 21st century Democratic party. There's the odd exception, but by and large that's what they do.  It's awful (marginally less awful than Trump and the GOP, but still awful) but it's not like if she she wasn't there that would be different.
Your post is 100% correct. This is exactly why AOC and progressives want these useless thumb-twiddlers out on their butts. Liberals are tired of our politicians serving the rich and the corporations. Working families and the 99% (the non-1%) need to come first. The rich and the corporations will do just fine actually paying taxes. The economy will  not collapse (see: Sweden, Denmark, etc).
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« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2019, 02:04:12 AM »

The part that is so infuriating about the impeachment fight is that if the situation was reversed the republican mentality would be to impeach and when a dem senate does nothing make it a referendum in the next election. Seriously how much more of a slam dunk can you get then Trump ordering aides who don’t work for him anymore to ignore subpoenas? Or his actions with the census?
Pelosi works for the donors and lobbyists, who LOVED Trump's tax cut and love GOP deregulation. The Democrats are in many cases paid by their donors to either lose or not rock the boat. Pelosi impeaching Trump wouldn't be good financially for her puppet masters.

Joe Biden won't reverse Trump's tax cuts and regulate Wall Street. Biden won't force Amazon to pay taxes, at least not a realistic amount. Bernie Sanders will. Elizabeth Warren will.  In 2024, Ocasio-Cortez will.

Some would argue that getting the Democratic Party back on track and uncorrupted is more important overall than exactly how left wing or centrist some of the policies of Bernie / Warren are. Plug the holes on tbe ship, prevent sinking, get the water out, and then you can worry about exactly which direction you want to sail the boat.
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« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2019, 02:52:51 AM »

Nancy Pelosi is f-cking useless



The same Nancy Pelosi that help get universal health care passed in the house? The same Nancy Pelosi that has gone toe to toe on Trump's policies?

Look, I disagree with what she's said and hope we can get a congressional invesitgation Acostoa. What I don't stand is the slander towards a women that has been determinable in fostering the political shape of the last 15 years. One of the most powerful house speakers our party has had since the days of Tip O'Neil. In the self-interest for the Democratic Party let's start defending Pelosi before the right wing gain narrative of the inter-conflict that is being played out.

Tip "f*(ked over Jimmy Carter" O'Neill but really went over for St. Ronnie is hardly a good example.
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« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2019, 09:01:56 AM »

The part that is so infuriating about the impeachment fight is that if the situation was reversed the republican mentality would be to impeach and when a dem senate does nothing make it a referendum in the next election. Seriously how much more of a slam dunk can you get then Trump ordering aides who don’t work for him anymore to ignore subpoenas? Or his actions with the census?

On the issue with the impeachment, now, I do have some sympathy with Pelosi. If you launch it too early, Trump gets quickly "cleared" by the GOP Senate. Then he gets to spend six-plus months running on "totally exonerated, again after Democrat Witch Hunt!. Too many people (and the MSM) will forget all the new and old crimes and impeachable offenses and the narrative "Trump found innocent by Senate" will have power.

If you time it right - next year, not now, then she can say "We finished all our regular business for this Congress, now let's look at all these allegations" and run the investigation all through election season. And push the Senate vote only a few months before the election, when it actually helps, and when the Dems can campaign on "Senator X voted to acquit Trump! He's a crook too!"
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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2019, 10:18:10 AM »

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.
Pelosi is a racist though. No reasonable person would dispute that.
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« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2019, 12:26:02 PM »

Cortez is now doubling down with attacking the political party she claims to register as. I would have deep distrust of someone like her if I were walking in Pelosi shoes.




People forget that she is basically part of the TYT caucus in the House . TYT is what started the justice democrats
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« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2019, 01:36:36 PM »

Cortez is now doubling down with attacking the political party she claims to register as. I would have deep distrust of someone like her if I were walking in Pelosi shoes.




People forget that she is basically part of the TYT caucus in the House . TYT is what started the justice democrats

TYT have blood on their hands from the deplorable attacks on the party. It's the mission of Cenk and co to dismantle the party by replacing lone time representatives with new elected officials that want to go against the party wishes.
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« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2019, 03:26:01 PM »

Pelosi has become such a FF as shes gotten older and wiser.  She's like a fine wine, only getting better with age.
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« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2019, 06:42:54 PM »

Cortez is now doubling down with attacking the political party she claims to register as. I would have deep distrust of someone like her if I were walking in Pelosi shoes.




People forget that she is basically part of the TYT caucus in the House . TYT is what started the justice democrats

TYT have blood on their hands from the deplorable attacks on the party. It's the mission of Cenk and co to dismantle the party by replacing lone time representatives with new elected officials that want to go against the party wishes.
Blood on their hands? Lol. You're being a drama queen.

The rest of your post is accurate, but it's a good thing not a bad thing.
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