Biden'20=Romney'12, Jeb'16 or McCain'08

[terp40hitch]

It is early but I feel we can kinda already guess the fate of Joe Biden's campaign

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

Probably more like Hillary '08. he narrowly loses the nomination to Harris or Warren.

[terp40hitch]

Probably more like Hillary '08. he narrowly loses the nomination to Harris or Warren.

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[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

JB is like JB.

[Pandaguineapig]

At this rate, like Perry 2012

[The Other Castro]

A mix of Hillary 08, Romney 12, and Giuliani 08. Came in strong, but unclear if he’s gonna end a winner or a loser.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Probably more like Hillary '08. he narrowly loses the nomination to Harris or Warren.

[UWS]

Romney 2012

Just like Romney, Biden is the favorite of the establishment butis facing obstacles throughout the summer, especially when candidates like Rick Perry and Herman Cain were rising in the polls. Both are labeled as flip floppers as Romney changed his positions on gay marriage, abortion and gun control and Biden on the Iraq War, funding for Planned Parenthood, China's economic threat, etc. So Romney 2012 is clearly the answer.

[brucejoel99]

For the time being, I'd still stay Romney '12, considering his lead in the polls still appears to be comfortably safe for now.

He could also easily turn into a Hillary '08 scenario though, with Kamala likely being the Obama here, if things manage to go further south for him.

I don't see him turning into Jeb '16 (though as the starting frontrunner, he's naturally the best-positioned candidate to become the Jeb of this race), but who knows?

Oh, & I think if anybody has the potential to be the McCain '08 of this race, it's Bernie, considering his relatively weak fundraising & poor poll numbers thus far.

[terp40hitch]

For the time being, I'd still stay Romney '12, considering his lead in the polls still appears to be comfortably safe for now.

He could also easily turn into a Hillary '08 scenario though, with Kamala likely being the Obama here, if things manage to go further south for him.

I don't see him turning into Jeb '16 (though as the starting frontrunner, he's naturally the best-positioned candidate to become the Jeb of this race), but who knows?

Oh, & I think if anybody has the potential to be the McCain '08 of this race, it's Bernie, considering his relatively weak fundraising & poor poll numbers thus far.

That is about my thinking and if you look at real clear politics in 2012, Mitt Romney was constantly facing insurgent campaigns that fell quickly after. We will have to wait and see but O’Rourke kinda seems like the Bachmann of this cycle (surges in the start, never really gets too high but then Perry takes all Bachman’s momentum. Buttigieg kinda stole all of O’Rourke’s support even though Buttigieg is a good debator  unlike Perry and didn’t ever really challenge Biden for front runner status

[Mr. Smith]

Since I'm pessimistic, I'll go with Romney.

I was hoping he'd be more like Jeb! Alas, that doesn't seem to be happening.

[Joe Biden 2024]

Too early to tell.

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

Definitely getting Hillary ‘08 vibes: initial frontrunner who isn’t going to instantly collapse like Jeb ‘16 but has challengers with great potential to gradually overtake him in the primary by the end.

[Senator-elect Spark]

Hillary 2008 or Jeb!

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Giuliani '08

[7,052,770]

If he gets the nomination, he'll win the general. Getting the nomination over this group of heavyweights would disprove the idea that he's a weak candidate.

[Da2017]

Right now Hillary 08. A case could be made for Romney 12.

[morgieb]

It's either Romney or Jeb (though unlike Romney I think he'd probably be favoured in a general). McCain doesn't work as I don't see him surging after he loses momentum, and I'm not sure Hillary's a great comparison either as I think he's not quite as strong structurally as she was so he'll probably sink if someone gets on top of him. I'm saying Jeb as the field seems stronger than 2012, where Romney's money/support was enough to get over the line for any B-listers.

[Mr. Smith]

If he gets the nomination, he'll win the general. Getting the nomination over this group of heavyweights would disprove the idea that he's a weak candidate.

If you ascribe to the idea this field has heavyweights anyway, I'm not sure I do.

If I were, I'd have to admit Newt Gingrich, Dick Gephardt, Rick Santorum,  & John Edwards were all heavyweights when they gave some challenge but eventually fell in 2012 and 2004 respectively. Not sure I can do that.

[Frodo]

If the trajectory continues, I think Jeb Bush should be on hand to comfort Joe Biden.  They are going to have some stories to tell each other, and will find a lot in common. 

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Jeb, so much hype was going into him, and he made gaffes like Jeb and lost. Fred Thompson was the same way

[terp40hitch]

Comes from a tweet from a person who works at the NYT:

This came up w voter after voter in Iowa: they were leaning Harris bc they thought she could duel the best w Trump.  Few mentioned policy, w one saying ‘16 proved persona matters most. 

It’s a bit like ‘12, in which so much R energy was devoted to who could outwit Obama