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morgankingsley
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« on: July 30, 2019, 07:52:36 PM »

To be completely honest, Carter has absolutely no excuse to lose any of the states that he lost by less than 5 percent, states he should have easily won with even an average set of campaigning skills. Great man, but quite honestly one of the worst campaigners in the history of presidents
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morgankingsley
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2019, 05:01:17 PM »

I don't think we had state by state polling back then, but the consensus was that Reagan would win by 2-4 points nationally, so his landslide win was a shocker.

Reagan 1980: 50.7%
Obama 2012: 51.1%

The EC is a deceptive representation of what happened in that election.

Yeah if you went by the electoral college, Carter did worse than any incumbent ever. That's just not true. Look at Hoover
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morgankingsley
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2019, 06:09:48 PM »

I don't think we had state by state polling back then, but the consensus was that Reagan would win by 2-4 points nationally, so his landslide win was a shocker.

Reagan 1980: 50.7%
Obama 2012: 51.1%

The EC is a deceptive representation of what happened in that election.


Carter got 41% while Romney got 47.2% and Anderson at most got 60% of Carter voters while at least 40% them would have voted for Reagan.


Reagan win by basically 10 points is still a landslide

Nobody disputes it's a landslide. Some people, however, such as myself, dispute that the extent of the landslide is greatly exaggerated due to the extent of the EC. When there were bigger defeats of incumbents. Taft lost by 19 in the popular vote and Hoover lost by 17. I also think that due to the closeness of several southern states, it is important to state that the election was indeed closer than it looks on paper. Still a clear Reagan victory, but not the historic blowout that the map makes it look to be
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