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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2019, 03:00:32 PM »

Way to much analysis of an opinion article here. There's a reason they call them that. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. It's not actual journalism.
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2019, 04:10:07 PM »

The Republican Party used to be understood as center-right when it had the likes of Mark Hatfield, Ed Brooke, Jacob Javits, Hugh Scott, and William Milliken.

There are few moderates, but there are fascists. 

Jacob Javits is clearly center left not center right .

Yes -- he was a clear liberal, and there was room for liberals in the Republican Party at one time. There is no room now.
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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2019, 04:24:27 PM »

The main issue is that the GOP's positions regarding entitlements and healthcare are so completely off a cliff compared to any other Western conservative/Right party.

The idea that people who don't personally accrue a multimillion dollar stock portfolio by age 65 should be condemned to spend the rest of their life in poverty, or that someone having a heart attack should just drive from hospital to hospital and haggle with the front desk staff over the cost of an angiogram would sound absurd to any conservative outside the United States.
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2019, 06:33:50 PM »

The Republican Party used to be understood as center-right when it had the likes of Mark Hatfield, Ed Brooke, Jacob Javits, Hugh Scott, and William Milliken.

There are few moderates, but there are fascists. 

Jacob Javits is clearly center left not center right .

The myth of the sensible Republican relies either on casting a “severe” conservative as a moderate, or casting a liberal as center-right.
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2019, 06:35:09 PM »

The Republican Party used to be understood as center-right when it had the likes of Mark Hatfield, Ed Brooke, Jacob Javits, Hugh Scott, and William Milliken.

There are few moderates, but there are fascists. 

Jacob Javits is clearly center left not center right .

Yes -- he was a clear liberal, and there was room for liberals in the Republican Party at one time. There is no room now.

Why should there be room for conservatives in the Democratic Party?
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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2019, 07:33:24 PM »

Problem is both major US parties are exceptionally broad tents compared to political parties in ROTW so I don't think these comparisons go very far. But anyway...

The Republican Party is probably most similar to the Australian Liberal Party I guess, even though that's not an exact fit either as the GOP is weirdly religious conservative while also somehow at the same time being rhetorically obsessed with muh freedom liberalism.
The Democrats are even more difficult to find a global comparison for, since the party is for the most part a mishmash of US-specific interest groups with only a veneer of motivating ideology (at least until recently). Maybe if you sewed the Canadian Liberal Party and the NDP together?

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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2019, 12:02:11 AM »

The Republican Party used to be understood as center-right when it had the likes of Mark Hatfield, Ed Brooke, Jacob Javits, Hugh Scott, and William Milliken.

There are few moderates, but there are fascists. 

Jacob Javits is clearly center left not center right .

Yes -- he was a clear liberal, and there was room for liberals in the Republican Party at one time. There is no room now.

Yes -- Governor Edward J. King of Massachusetts and Senator Frank Lausche of Ohio were clear conservatives, and there was room for conservatives in the Democratic Party at one time. There is no room now.
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