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« on: June 26, 2019, 12:58:29 PM »
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2004



Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator John Edwards (D-NC) : 355
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) : 183

2008



President John Kerry (D-MA)/Vice President John Edwards (D-NC) : 270
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) : 268

List of Governors and Senators

Alabama

Governor : Artur Davis (Republican)

Senators : Richard Shelby (R), Jeff Sessions (R)

Alaska

Governor : Sarah Palin (Republican)

Senators : Ted Stevens (R), Joe Miller (R)

Arizona

Governor : Jan Brewer (Republican)

Senators : John McCain (R), Jon Kyl (R)

Arkansas

Governor : Asa Hutchinson (Republican)

Senators :  Mike Huckabee (R), John Boozman (R)

California

Governor : Jerry Brown (Democrat)

Senators : Arnold Schwarznegger (R),Carly Fiorina (R)

Colorado

Governor : Tom Tancredo (Republican)

Senators : Joe Rogers (R), Ken Buck (R)

Connecticut

Governor : Ned Lamont (Democrat)

Senators : Rob Simmons (R), Linda McMahon (R)

Delaware
Governor : Jack Markell (Democrat)

Senators : Tom Carper (D), Mike Castle (R)

Florida

Governor : Julio Robiana (Republican)

Senators : Jeb Bush (R), Jennifer Carroll (R)

Georgia

Governor : Karen Handel (Republican)

Senators : Saxby Chambliss (R), Johnny Isaakson (R)

Hawaii

Governor : Neil Abercrombie (Democrat)

Senators : Daniel Inouye (D), Daniel Akaka (D)

Idaho

Governor : Butch Otter (Republican)

Senators : Mike Crapo (R), Jim Risch (R)

Illinois

Governor : Barack Obama (Democrat)

Senators : Dick Durbin (D), Peter Fitzgerald (R)

Indiana

Governor : Mitch Daniels (Republican)

Senators : Richard Lugar (R), Dan Coats (R)

Iowa

Governor : Jim Nussle (Republican)

Senators : Chuck Grassley (R), Bob Vander Plaats (R)

Kansas

Governor : Sam Brownback (Republican)

Senators : Pat Roberts (R), Todd Tiahrt (R)

Kentucky

Governor : Ernie Fletcher (Republican)

Senators : Mitch McConnell (R), Rand Paul (R)

Louisiana

Governor : Bobby Jindal (Republican)

Senators : David Vitter (R), John Neely Kennedy (R)

Maine

Governor : Les Otten (Republican)

Senators : Charlie Summers (R), Steve Abott (R)

Maryland

Governor : Martin O’Malley (Democrat)

Senators : Barbara Mikulski (D), Micheal Steele (R)

Massachusetts

Governor : Deval Patrick (Democrat)

Senators : Charlie Baker (R), Scott Brown (R)

Michigan

Governor : Verg Bernero (Democrat)

Senators : Carl Levin (D), Mike Cox (R)

Minnesota

Governor : R.T. Rybak (Democrat)

Senators : Norm Coleman (R), Dan Severson (R)

Mississippi

Governor : Haley Barbour (Republican)

Senators : Thad Cochran (R), Yvonne Brown (R)

Missouri

Governor : Sarah Steelman (Republican)

Senators : Jim Talent (R), Sherman Parker (R)

Montana

Governor : Steve Daines (Republican)

Senators : Conrad Burns (R), Denny Rehberg (R)

Nebraska

Governor : Dave Heinemann (Republican)

Senators : Don Sternberg (R), Mike Johanns (R)

Nevada

Governor : (Republican)

Senators : Sharon Angle (R), Dean Heller (R)

New Hampshire

Governor : Jim Lawrence (Republican)

Senators : John Sununu (R), Kelly Ayotte (R)

New Jersey

Governor : Chris Christie (Republican)

Senators : Frank Lautenberg (D), Thomas Kean Jr. (R)

New Mexico

Governor : Diane Dinesh (Democrat)

Senators : Jeff Bingham (D), Heather Wilson (R)

New York

Governor : Donald J. Trump (Independent) [Caucuses with Republicans]

Senators : Chuck Schumer (D), George Pataki (R)

North Carolina

Governor : Fred Smith (Republican)

Senators : Elizabeth Dole (R), Richard Burr (R)

North Dakota

Governor : Jack Darylmple (Republican)

Senators : Kent Conrad (D), John Hoeven (R)

Ohio

Governor : Ken Blackwell (Republican)

Senators : Mike DeWine (R), Rob Portman (R)

Oklahoma

Governor : Mick Cornett (Republican)

Senators : Jim Inhofe (R), J.C.Watts (R)

Oregon

Governor : Bill Bradbury (Democrat)

Senators : Ron Wyden (D), Gordon Smith (R)

Pennsylvania

Governor : Lynn Swan (Republican)

Senators : Rick Santorum (R), Renee Amore (R)

Rhode Island

Governor : Sheldon Whitehouse (Democrat)

Senators : Lincoln Chafee (R), Steve Laffey (R)

South Carolina

Governor : Jim DeMint (Republican)

Senators : Lindsey Graham (R), Tim Scott (R)

South Dakota

Governor : Dave Knudson (Republican)

Senators : Kristi Noem (R), Mike Rounds (R)

Tennessee

Governor : Bill Haslam (Republican)

Senators : Lamar Alexander (R), Ed Bryant (R)

Texas

Governor : Rick Perry (Republican)

Senators : Kay Bailey Hutchison (R), John Cornyn (R)

Utah

Governor : Jon Huntsman Jr. (Republican)

Senators : Orrin Hatch (R), Mike Lee (R)

Vermont

Governor : Bernie Sanders (Independent) [Caucuses with Democrats]

Senators : Patrick Leahy (D), Jim Douglas (R)

Virginia

Governor : Pete Snyder (Republican)

Senators : George Allen (R), Tom Davis (R)

Washington

Governor : Jay Inslee (Democrat)

Senators : Dino Rossi (R), Chris Vance (R)

West Virginia

Governor : Patrick Morrisey (Republican)

Senators : Jay Rockefeller (D), David McKinley (R)

Wisconsin

Governor : Paul Ryan (Republican)

Senators : Herb Kohl (D), Scott Walker (R)

Wyoming

Governor : Liz Cheney (Republican)

Senators : Mike Enzi (R), John Barrasso (R)

Kerry's Cabinet

President : John Kerry (D-MA) [Replaced in Senate by Charlie Baker]

Vice President : John Edwards (D-NC)

Secretary of State : Richard Holbrook (D-NY) [2005-2010]; Hillary Clinton (D-NY) [Replaced in Senate by George Pataki] {2010-2013}

Secretary of the Treasury : Patty Murray (D-WA) [Replaced in Senate by Ron Sims]

Secretary of Defense : Jack Reed (D-RI) [Replaced in Senate by Steve Laffey]

Attorney General : Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL) [2005-2010]; Janet Napolitano (D-AZ) [2010-2013]

Secretary of the Interior : Tom Udall (D-NM)

Secretary of Agriculture : Tom Vilsack (D-IA) [Replaced as Governor by Sally Pederson]

Secretary of Commerce : Robert L. Mallet (D-TX)

Secretary of Labor : Tom Harkin (D-IA) [Replaced in Senate by Leonard Boswell]

Secretary of Health and Human Services : Ted Kennedy (D-MA) [Replaced in Senate by Massachusetts State Representative Scott Brown] {2005-2010}; Olympia Snowe (R-ME) [Replaced in Senate by Steve Abott]

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development : Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)

Secretary of Transportation : Mortimer L. TImey (D-MA)

Secretary of Energy : Rush Holt (D-NJ)

Secretary of Education : Chris Dodd (D-CT) [Replaced in Senate by Nancy Johnson]

Secretary of Veterans Affairs : Hershel Wayne Gober (D-AR)

Secretary of Homeland Security : Susan Collins (R-ME) [Replaced in Senate by Matthew Dunlap]

United States Supreme Court (Circa 2013)

Chief Justice : Alice M. Batchelder (Appointed by President Kerry, 2005)
Associate Justice : Antonin Scalia (Appointed by President Reagan, 1986)
Associate Justice : Anthony Kennedy (Appointed by President Reagan, 1988)
Associate Justice : Clarence Thomas (Appointed by President H.W. Bush, 1991)
Associate Justice : Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Appointed by President Clinton, 1993)
Associate Justice : Stephen Breyer (Appointed by President Clinton, 1994)
Associate Justice : Midge Rendell (Appointed by President Kerry, 2006)
Associate Justice : Anthony Joseph Scirica (Appointed by President Kerry, 2009)
Associate Justice : D. Brooks Smith (Appointed by President Kerry, 2010)


The landslide victory of the Kerry/Edwards ticket was the surprise of a lifetime that saw Senator Kerry, after months of tough fighting with the President, winning by a surprising margin and with quite the mandate. Following his first few weeks of his administration passed bipartisan gun control and Healthcare reform that saw the chances of a mass school shooting limited to near non-existence  and the ability for families to easily pay for health insurance. In May of 2005, however, when overseas, visiting the Saudi Royal family, President Kerry was attacked and nearly killed along with the King of Saudi Arabia by a terrorist. Despite many wounds, the President would survive his wounds and reassure the american that the people held responsible would be found and killed.

The terrorist, after weeks of interrogation, claimed to have been from Iran's government and in order to prove it, he had a brief conversation with the ayatollah where he lied about escaping and having succeeded in his job. He then revealed to the CIA about plans to attack a major American City from Iran that was halted. With this information, President Kerry declared war on Iran and invaded with support from most NATO nations. Almost as soon as the war began, the ayatollah was captured and imprisoned and most of his government was imprisoned as well. With a relatively quick war finished, President Kerry allowed for UN troops to take over the situation in Iran, which was relatively peaceful for a time, and declared that his mission was completed.

As the weeks and months went by, however, Support for Kerry began to turn sour with his horrible handling of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Economy and in the 2006 Midterms, Several States elected Republican majorities. Kerry's Approval still didn't go up after the 2006 midterms and instead, it continued to plummet, hitting 41 % by Mid October of 2007, when several groups within Iran formed the Islamic Caliphate of Persia, a terrorist organization that sought to end the short democracy of Iran and establish a Islamist theocracy. The terrorists started out small and weak, and thus for a time no attention was paid to them.

As he was gearing up for his 2008 campaign, Kerry went for three major foreign policy victories. In his first victory, he was able to convince Syrian Bashar Al'Assad to hold Democratic Elections for Parliament in 2008 and a Presidential Election in 2010 with the agreement that, were Assad to lose the Presidential Election in 2010, he would be allowed to live in any western country of his choosing and be declared an honorary citizen.

The next victory was when President Kerry, in Early 2008, met with Muammar Gaddafi to allow for Libyan Parliamentary Elections as soon as Early 2012 in return for Economic Aid for Libya to become a stronger nation on the global economic stage.

Kerry's final foreign policy victory was in mid 2008, just before the first Presidential Debate. In Late 2007, President Kerry met with Presidents Assad of Syria, President Hussein-Ali Montazeri of Iran, President Abdullah Gül of Turkey, and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki of Iraq to discuss a possible referendum on the establishment of a Kurdish Nation in the Middle East. After Months of long arguments, in July of 2008, all four middle eastern nations agreed for the referendums to take place and the result of it was overwhelmingly in favor of an Independent Kurdish Nation that was established the 17th of September, 2008 with the first elections taking place on the same day as the American 2008 Elections.

Back at home, however, things were worse off with the economy, which was coming close to a recession. Using his recent victories on the foreign policy scene, Kerry was just barely able to round up enough support to defeat the Republican Nominee John McCain by a bare margin, losing the National Popular Vote, which he won in 2004 by 7, by 2.4. Still, with his second term starting, Kerry was determined to focus on helping the economy and ending his term in relative peace.

This was not to be the case, however, as in Early 2009, shortly after his second inauguration, President Kerry would be forced to send troops to Iran after the ICP assassinated Montazeri and nearly took control of the country while also launching to successful terrorist attacks on American soil. For the first few weeks, the war seemed successful with the ICP being all but completely eliminated. As time went on, however, the Iran War became a more gruesome affair due to Iran being larger than Iraq and Afghanistan combined. This, combined with a financial crisis in late 2009-mid 2010, would become the legacy of President Kerry's second term in office.

Now, the 2012 Election is fast approaching and both parties will have to pick and choose their battles. For the Republicans, with 35 Governors Seats , 355 House Seats, and 86 Senate Seats, the Party will have to pick and choose their battles and who to cut loose and who to support due to over extension. Meanwhile, the Democrats will now need to find a way to convince America that their party isn't going to go into the dustbin of history and make America that 4 more years of control is possible. With the economy slowly recovering, the chance of Democratic Victory in November, while slim, is possible with the right circumstances. There could also be the rise of an Independent who could theoretically defeat both parties and start a new era free of Washington politics.

Like a phoenix, can the democrats rise from the Ashes? Like a charging bull, can the Republicans crash their way to victory? Or, like a flood, can an Independent appear from out of nowhere and win the Presidency.

Only time can tell.


Retirement map for 2012

Retiring Democrat Incumbents : Daniel Akaka (D-HI), Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Kent Conrad (D-ND), Herb Kohl (D-WI)

Retiring Republican Incumbents : Jon Kyl (R-AZ), Conrad Burns (R-MT), Mike DeWine (R-OH), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)

Running Democratic Incumbents : Tom Carper (D-DE)

Running Republican Incumbents :  Arnold Schwarznegger (R-CA), Rob Simmons (R-CT), Richard Lugar (R-IN), Steve Abott (R-ME), Micheal Steele (R-MD), Mike Cox (R-MI), Dan Severson (R-MN), Yvonne Brown (R-MS), Don Stenberg (R-NE), Dean Heller (R-NV),  Ed Bryant (R-TN), Jim Douglas (R-VT), David McKinley (R-WV), , Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Dino Rossi (R-WA), John Barrasso (R-WY)

Incumbents intent Unknown : Jeb Bush (R-FL), Scott Brown (R-MA), Jim Talent (R-MO), Thomas Kean Jr. (R-NJ), George Pataki (R-NY), Rick Santorum (R-PA), Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), George Allen (R-VA)


Senate Rating Map for 2012

Safe D States : Delaware, Hawaii

Likely D States : California, Minnesota, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Washington

Lean D States : Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Nevada, Pennsylvania

Toss-ups : Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont

Lean R States : Montana, Texas, West Virginia, Wisconsin

Likely R States : Indiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia

Safe R States : Utah, Wyoming

Possible Republican Candidates :
U.S. Senator George Allen (R-VA)
U.S. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)
U.S. Senator Jeb Bush (R-FL)
U.S. Senator Jim Talent (R-MO)
U.S. Senator Thomas Kean Jr. (R-NJ) [x-guy]
U.S. Senator George Pataki (R-NY)
U.S. Senator Scott Brown (R-MA)
U.S. Senator Lincoln Chafee (R-RI)
U.S. Senator Mike Huckabee (R-AR) [Alancia]
Governor Donald Trump (R-NY)
Governor Pete Snyder (R-VA)
Governor Jon Huntsman Jr. (R-UT)
U.S. Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR) [New Jersey Suburban Conservative]
U.S. Senator Rob Portman [Grassr00ts]
Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) [NOTTYLER]
U.S. Representative and House Majority Whip Cal Ripken (R-MD)
Among Others

Possible Democratic Candidates :
United States Vice President John Edwards (D-NC) [MB]
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Governor Barack Obama (D-IL)
Governor Bernie Sanders (D-VT)
Governor Martin O’Malley (D-MD)
Former U.S. Senator Brad Carson (D-OK)
Former U.S. Senator Daniel Monigiardo (D-KY)
Former Governor Joe Manchin (D-WV)
Former Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)
U.S. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) [NYIndy]
U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) [terp40hitch]
Governor Verg Bernero (D-MI) [Jasonhitchcock]
Among Others

Possible Independent Candidates :
Governor Donald Trump (I-NY)
Governor Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Mr. Rocky Anderson (J-UT) [Ishan]
Among Others


This is to see interest is generating for this (BTW, current polling shows Democrats tied 44-44-12) and it'll fluctuate based on candidate performances, but not by much until the general election.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2019, 01:26:54 PM »

I'll take Gordon Smith
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2019, 01:29:32 PM »
« Edited: June 26, 2019, 01:36:25 PM by Daddy Haslam for Sen, 2020 »


reserved Smiley (I was afraid some players wouldn't be interested in this game considering how many seats the Republicans stuff have and would understandably think the game will be slanted towards Republicans)
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2019, 05:04:11 PM »

I'll run as Senator Thomas Kean Jr. (Also how close was his election victory?)

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2019, 10:58:47 PM »

I think I'll try Ron Wyden
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2019, 11:01:08 PM »


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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2019, 11:09:28 PM »

With five Candidates in so far, I'll turn this into a sign-ups and ooc thread and have the gameplay up asap. Feel free to join at any time and post announcement speeches from now to then Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2019, 11:33:23 PM »

Rob Portman reporting in
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2019, 05:14:24 AM »


Granted
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2019, 07:43:56 AM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=322990.0

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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2019, 09:19:34 AM »

What's the story with Gillibrand? I kinda want to play as her

Is she still a congresswoman, did she lose the Senate seat?
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2019, 09:28:21 AM »

What's the story with Gillibrand? I kinda want to play as her

Is she still a congresswoman, did she lose the Senate seat?

She ran for and won the NY LG race in 2006 and was the Dem Nominee against Trump in the 2008 NY Gov Recall Election (She lost that race) She ran for and won her former Congress seat in 2010.
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2019, 09:30:33 AM »

What's the story with Gillibrand? I kinda want to play as her

Is she still a congresswoman, did she lose the Senate seat?

She ran for and won the NY LG race in 2006 and was the Dem Nominee against Trump in the 2008 NY Gov Recall Election (She lost that race) She ran for and won her former Congress seat in 2010.
I will play as her then
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2019, 09:32:41 AM »

What's the story with Gillibrand? I kinda want to play as her

Is she still a congresswoman, did she lose the Senate seat?

She ran for and won the NY LG race in 2006 and was the Dem Nominee against Trump in the 2008 NY Gov Recall Election (She lost that race) She ran for and won her former Congress seat in 2010.
I will play as her then

Alright.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2019, 09:36:30 AM »

for anyone joining after the start of a turn, feel free to answer general debate questions and campaign as such
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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2019, 12:01:57 PM »

Can I join in?
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2019, 12:07:16 PM »


sure, who would you like?
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2019, 02:02:08 PM »

Can I actually switch to Dennis Kucinich?
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2019, 02:02:31 PM »

Can I actually switch to Dennis Kucinich?

sure
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2019, 02:45:21 PM »

Can I get Rick Snyder
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2019, 02:47:50 PM »


Alright, but he's lost the 2010 MI Gov race
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2019, 02:54:36 PM »


Why would he lose a race he won by 19 OTL, in a friendly midterm?
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2019, 02:56:48 PM »


Why would he lose a race he won by 19 OTL, in a friendly midterm?

A worse campaign and a late breaking scandal from his business caused him to lose by 0.02%. It was close though.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2019, 03:00:36 PM »


Why would he lose a race he won by 19 OTL, in a friendly midterm?

A worse campaign and a late breaking scandal from his business caused him to lose by 0.02%. It was close though.

If that's the case, can I have Governor Virg Benero?
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2019, 03:05:23 PM »


Why would he lose a race he won by 19 OTL, in a friendly midterm?

A worse campaign and a late breaking scandal from his business caused him to lose by 0.02%. It was close though.

If that's the case, can I have Governor Virg Benero?

Granted, even though he's been in office for a few months at this point.
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