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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2005, 04:10:50 AM »

Frankly if DC gets statehoodesque status...then I want Bucks County PA ( a county with at least 100,000 more people than DC) to be severed from PA and given 3 electoral votes. Just because DC is as large as Wyoming doesn't mean a damn thing. There are plenty of places as large as Wyoming and while they get to vote for senators, their vote counts for less. Thats how it was meant to be, the senate was never intended to be tied to population. The Upper House was intended to represent state interests in American Federalism. DC is not a state, nor should it ever be one. It was an entity given up by two states (although I think the land in DC now was owned by Maryland) to create a neutral zone so that the capital was not located in a state and thus influenced by its interests.

DC was always mean to be a neutral zone as it were. Giving it Senators and voting powers in the house pretty much destroys this purpose.

Give the state of Maryland all of the non federally owned land in the District of Columbia (since I believe Virginia got its original share back)
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« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2005, 09:22:28 AM »

The problem is that too many people are now unrepresented in congress, something I find a little unfair. I also think the senate is somewhat unfair, but that's another matter.
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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2005, 12:39:01 PM »

Frankly if DC gets statehoodesque status...then I want Bucks County PA ( a county with at least 100,000 more people than DC) to be severed from PA and given 3 electoral votes. Just because DC is as large as Wyoming doesn't mean a damn thing. There are plenty of places as large as Wyoming and while they get to vote for senators, their vote counts for less. Thats how it was meant to be, the senate was never intended to be tied to population. The Upper House was intended to represent state interests in American Federalism. DC is not a state, nor should it ever be one. It was an entity given up by two states (although I think the land in DC now was owned by Maryland) to create a neutral zone so that the capital was not located in a state and thus influenced by its interests.

DC was always mean to be a neutral zone as it were. Giving it Senators and voting powers in the house pretty much destroys this purpose.

Give the state of Maryland all of the non federally owned land in the District of Columbia (since I believe Virginia got its original share back)

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« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2005, 04:22:57 PM »

^ Annexation back into Maryland would be a fine plan, but what do you do if Maryland doesn't want DC?
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« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2005, 04:31:01 PM »

demographics of Maryland + DC

5,868,545 total population

3445725 White
1804823 Black
272869 Hispanic
224777 Asian
92530 Mixed
14586 Native American
11049 Other
2186 Pacific Islander

58.72 White
30.75 Black
4.65 Hispanic
3.83 Asian
1.58 Mixed
0.25 Native American
0.19 Other
0.04 Pacific Islander
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« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2005, 04:38:29 PM »

Maryland does NOT want a city that spends more money than it takes in. SORRY
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« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2005, 05:02:17 PM »

theyre taxed but not represented, which is unconstitutional.

Uh, no. It's not.
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« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2005, 05:13:46 PM »

theyre taxed but not represented, which is unconstitutional.

Uh, no. It's not.

I believe A18 is correct, but it certainly is against the spirit of America.
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« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2005, 08:22:47 PM »

theyre taxed but not represented, which is unconstitutional.

Uh, no. It's not.

I believe A18 is correct, but it certainly is against the spirit of America.
perhaps, but it sure sounded good until anyone noticed. Wink
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« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2005, 10:26:29 PM »

theyre taxed but not represented, which is unconstitutional.

Uh, no. It's not.

I believe A18 is correct, but it certainly is against the spirit of America.
perhaps, but it sure sounded good until anyone noticed. Wink

The Constitution also says that you should be poked with a fork for six years. Sad
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« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2005, 05:23:29 AM »

^ Annexation back into Maryland would be a fine plan, but what do you do if Maryland doesn't want DC?
Give all of Maryland to DC, and then use the public outcry and increased pressure to push through DC representation. Grin
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« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2005, 03:54:27 PM »

Now that is true of Alaska and Hawaii too, you know. Wink

They became territories, DC was created when the country was formed so it wouldn't be a state. Smiley
I'd have to look up the details, but IIRC Alaska and Hawaii were not - at least not initially - set up as normal territories like the Lower 48 before they became states.

Hawaii wasn't incorporated directly into the United States, but Alaska was, altho a territorial government wasn't established there until 1912.  The Insular Cases established that areas under control of the United States were not incorporated into the United States until Congress passed a law doing so.  The court held in Rasmussen v. United States, 197 U.S. 516, 49 L.Ed. 862, 25 S.Ct. 514 (1905) that the 1867 treaty by which Alaska was acquired was such a law and thus never unincorporated territory.
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« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2005, 05:00:36 PM »

DC to MD sounds fine to me.
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