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« on: November 19, 2005, 12:37:18 PM »

What would the political parties be like in the US/Confederacy following the south's victory in the ACW?

for the south
1 The democrats obviously. The dems would likely absorb the southern whigs and end up the reformist party. It would likely have the least religious right influence.
1 The Plantation Party. This would be a hardline reactionary party
3 One Nation Party. This would emerge as a modern hardline party emerging in the late 20th century. Think a combo of south africa's national party, the BNP and pat buchanan's reform

For the US

political parties
1 The Liberals. This would emerge from the left wing of thE GOP, the progressives and other such groups. By now this party is more of a technocratic semilibertarian party.
2 The Country party. This party is an alliance of the populists/various labor groups. The rise of the populists and later the country party is what weakens the GOP and ends up killing the northern democrats. This party is the most socially conservative but still has no religious rightist influence(a more secular US and the extermination of the mormons when they tried revolting).
3 The Greens. They'd be a social democratic party that emerges in the mid 20th century. The weakest of the three parties, its role is more to shift the balance in favor of the more liberal candidate.
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2005, 06:12:56 PM »

What would the political parties be like in the US/Confederacy following the south's victory in the ACW?

for the south
1 The democrats obviously. The dems would likely absorb the southern whigs and end up the reformist party. It would likely have the least religious right influence.
1 The Plantation Party. This would be a hardline reactionary party
3 One Nation Party. This would emerge as a modern hardline party emerging in the late 20th century. Think a combo of south africa's national party, the BNP and pat buchanan's reform

For the US

political parties
1 The Liberals. This would emerge from the left wing of thE GOP, the progressives and other such groups. By now this party is more of a technocratic semilibertarian party.
2 The Country party. This party is an alliance of the populists/various labor groups. The rise of the populists and later the country party is what weakens the GOP and ends up killing the northern democrats. This party is the most socially conservative but still has no religious rightist influence(a more secular US and the extermination of the mormons when they tried revolting).
3 The Greens. They'd be a social democratic party that emerges in the mid 20th century. The weakest of the three parties, its role is more to shift the balance in favor of the more liberal candidate.

Why would labor groups be in the Country party if it is the most socially conservative? Labor groups have always been left wing.

The Greens didn't arrive till the early 80's in real life, so its hard to imagine them being a force in the mid 20th Century, since there was no environmental movement at that time.

"Technocratic semilibertarian" sounds scary, what does it mean? since I'm a liberal in the North, I'd probably be in this party, the Greens are too immature for me.

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2005, 12:53:40 AM »

1 Labor groups are economically hard left but they tend to be socially conservative.

2 The greens/whatever you want to call it would be a social democratic party that shows up in the mid to late 20th century.

3 Think clintonomics combined with a realpolitik foreign policy and a libertarian social policy.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2005, 02:00:54 AM »

1 Labor groups are economically hard left but they tend to be socially conservative.

2 The greens/whatever you want to call it would be a social democratic party that shows up in the mid to late 20th century.

3 Think clintonomics combined with a realpolitik foreign policy and a libertarian social policy.

You're right about the first two, then.

But as far as the third one goes, that still sounds a bit to the right of me, so I might be a Green in this case.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2005, 09:49:36 PM »

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