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Barack Oganja
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« on: April 26, 2019, 07:11:01 PM »

Biden is the most well known in the field. Has been in politics the longest. Leading most of the polls. May very well end up with the most money. If he wins Iowa, a sense of inevitability may set in. But if he loses? A close second or third finish could propel someone like Beto or Harris but Biden is starting at the top and doesn't have a huge margin for error. Does Biden HAVE to win Iowa if he wants to win the nomination?
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2019, 08:35:58 PM »

If Sanders wins Iowa and NH, Biden has to win SC by a decent margin to make up for terrible optics. So, if he's not going to excel in SC, IA is sort of a must-win.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2019, 08:53:52 PM »

No, but if he doesn't win one of the first 4 in February, he's really going to be behind the 8ball going into Super Tuesday.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2019, 11:36:16 PM »

Yes
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2019, 11:39:18 PM »
« Edited: April 27, 2019, 07:30:42 AM by UWS »

Absolutely, because since 2000 the winner of the Iowa Democratic caucuses has always went on to become the eventual Democratic nominee (Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama in 2008 and Clinton in 2016).
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2019, 11:39:30 PM »

I was just about to make a thread on this. If Biden places second behind Bernie-- let's say 28-25 points-- where does he go from there? Hope for a win in South Carolina or Nevada? The first four primaries aren't really conducive to his candidacy...
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2019, 11:54:32 PM »

No, but he would probably need to lose very narrowly to Sanders, and then convincingly win South Carolina, with Sanders placing third.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2019, 05:02:53 AM »

Absolutely, because the winner of the Iowa Democratic primaries has always went on to become the eventual Democratic nominee (Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama in 2008 and Clinton in 2016).

Clinton probably would have been the nominee anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2019, 06:42:41 AM »

Absolutely, because the winner of the Iowa Democratic primaries has always went on to become the eventual Democratic nominee (Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama in 2008 and Clinton in 2016).

That is not always, is it? Bill Clinton didnt win IA and NH in 1992 and Dukakis lost IA to Dick Gephardt
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2019, 06:51:05 AM »

Joe Biden, havent endorsed any of the reforms to Bernie and Warren has made.  The video waa empty with promises. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2019, 07:25:14 AM »

No, but he would need to be at second, lose NH to Sanders (presumably, and probably by a large margin) and then come back big in SC and NV.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2019, 07:30:12 AM »

Absolutely, because the winner of the Iowa Democratic primaries has always went on to become the eventual Democratic nominee (Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama in 2008 and Clinton in 2016).

That is not always, is it? Bill Clinton didnt win IA and NH in 1992 and Dukakis lost IA to Dick Gephardt

I mean since 2000.
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2019, 10:27:19 AM »

No, but he would need to be at second, lose NH to Sanders (presumably, and probably by a large margin) and then come back big in SC and NV.

It would be better for his momentum if he did win IA, because he may fizzle out by the time SC rolls around.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2019, 10:42:33 AM »

Uh, obviously not? It’s a must-win for Sanders, not Biden.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2019, 02:32:00 PM »

Yes. If he doesn't win Iowa he doesn't New Hampshire.  If the presumed front runner loses the first two contests they are toast.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2019, 03:24:55 PM »

No, he would still be favored in South Carolina and possibly Nevada. But if he can win Iowa early on and knock out the rest in South Carolina, he'd be in a very strong position.
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2019, 04:01:39 PM »

No, he would still be favored in South Carolina and possibly Nevada. But if he can win Iowa early on and knock out the rest in South Carolina, he'd be in a very strong position.
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2019, 04:02:55 PM »

No, but he needs to keep it very close.
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2019, 07:05:23 PM »

No, he would still be favored in South Carolina and possibly Nevada. But if he can win Iowa early on and knock out the rest in South Carolina, he'd be in a very strong position.
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2019, 07:08:30 PM »

Iowa isn't a must-win for anyone apparently. Remember how Rubio coming in third in Iowa in 2016 was a resounding victory for him, yet Clinton narrowly winning it over Sanders was a bad omen for her campaign? Biden could lose Iowa and make up for it in Nevada or South Carolina easily. More than likely though, he is within the top three, and that's still good enough.
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2019, 10:18:09 PM »

Biden is one of few candidates whose candidacy isn't dependent upon winning Iowa
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