Canada General Discussion (2019-)

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/rachaiello/status/1123303484982530050

[Poirot]

103,000 people will be removed from the federal voters register because they are not citizens.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elections-canada-set-to-eliminate-100-000-non-citizens-from-voters-registry-1.4403532

[S019]

103,000 people will be removed from the federal voters register because they are not citizens.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elections-canada-set-to-eliminate-100-000-non-citizens-from-voters-registry-1.4403532

Not sure how you get on the voter rolls, without being a citizen, but a good move to protect the integrity of democracy

[MaxQue]

103,000 people will be removed from the federal voters register because they are not citizens.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elections-canada-set-to-eliminate-100-000-non-citizens-from-voters-registry-1.4403532

Not sure how you get on the voter rolls, without being a citizen, but a good move to protect the integrity of democracy

The federal list was made from the provincial ones (in provinces that had one) in the late 90's, could easily come from sloppy provincial work.

I also suspect the automatic voter registration section of filling a tax report might be linked to it.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/ctvqp/status/1124358240261812225

[RogueBeaver]

MMP might be cancelled here in Quebec. While Legault is publicly committing to introducing legislation by October, his strategists are planning a PEI-style simultaneous referendum in 2022 and his justice minister wants a slower approach. Elections Quebec wants to know soon because they believe implementation will take 30-42 months.

[beesley]

MMP might be cancelled here in Quebec. While Legault is publicly committing to introducing legislation by October, his strategists are planning a PEI-style simultaneous referendum in 2022 and his justice minister wants a slower approach. Elections Quebec wants to know soon because they believe implementation will take 30-42 months.

Good news! This is one of the few issues I believe should be decided by referendum. I suspect support for yes would be somehow correlated with QS support.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

The Liberal party since the days of Alexander Mackenzie in the 1870's, have always alternated between a French Canadian leader and a English leader. Is that some bizarre coincidence, or do the Liberals do this intentionally?

[beesley]

The Liberal party since the days of Alexander Mackenzie in the 1870's, have always alternated between a French Canadian leader and a English leader. Is that some bizarre coincidence, or do the Liberals do this intentionally?

Good news for Chrystia Freeland.

[RogueBeaver]

Quite intentional through Trudeau the Elder, less so afterward. Turner/Chretien/Martin won on "my turn" not language. That said Dion was a fluke like Clark and it took a strong push from Pearson and his innermost circle to choose Pierre Trudeau, since party establishment on its own would've chosen Hellyer or Winters. Nowadays there are no obvious Francophone choices if a vacancy arises.

[beesley]

Quite intentional through Trudeau the Elder, less so afterward. Turner/Chretien/Martin won on "my turn" not language. That said Dion was a fluke like Clark and it took a strong push from Pearson and his innermost circle to choose Pierre Trudeau, since party establishment on its own would've chosen Hellyer or Winters. Nowadays there are no obvious Francophone choices if a vacancy arises.

I'm guessing the next leader is in cabinet at the moment, because I doubt any of the high-profile provincial Liberals would win, so the current Francophone Ministers are:
Jean-Yves Duclos
Marc Garneau
Dominic Leblanc
Marie-Claude Bibeau
Francois-Philippe Champagne
Pablo Rodriguez
Melanie Joly
Ginette Petitpas Taylor
Diane Lebouthillier
Someone else I missed

There's also David Lametti who's English-Canadian but represents Paul Martin's old riding.

[Poirot]

Some provincial politics polls. In Ontario Ipsos has it a three way race. The Ontario Liberals have 32%, PC 30% and ONDP 29%. Ipsos has regional numbers and the Liberals are greatly helped by 40% in Greater Toronto.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5310826/ontario-politics-doug-ford-ipsos-poll/

Mainstreet shows Ford is very unpopular. Tthe Liberals are at 39.9% support among decided and leaning voters, NDP at 24.2%, PC at 22.4% and the Greens at 12%.

https://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/ford-pc-support-collapses-while-liberal-voters-prefer-tory-as-their-leader/

In Quebec the CAQ has wide support. Léger has voting intentions at 46% for CAQ, 23% Quebec Liberals, 14% PQ, 13% QS. CAQ has 55% of the francophone vote while the Liberal party is at 10%.

[Poirot]

MMP might be cancelled here in Quebec. While Legault is publicly committing to introducing legislation by October, his strategists are planning a PEI-style simultaneous referendum in 2022 and his justice minister wants a slower approach. Elections Quebec wants to know soon because they believe implementation will take 30-42 months.

They say they agreed to propose a law by October but did not say a new electoral system would be in place for next election. Half the CAQ caucus wants a referendum. It postpones potential changes, they don't have to fight one another to be a candidate in a riding and referendums were lost in other provinces.

What surprised me were the two scenarios studied. One is about half members elected in constituencies and half from list, in the 60s each. The other is 100 from constituencies and 25 from list. What was usually said was a new system would be 75 or 78 from constituencies and about 50 from list. 

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/201905/28/01-5227917-reforme-du-mode-de-scrutin-legault-devra-marcher-sur-la-peinture.php

[Poirot]

I'm guessing the next leader is in cabinet at the moment,

Some Liberals are trying to recruit Mark Carney if they have to find a new leader.

[beesley]

I'm guessing the next leader is in cabinet at the moment,

Some Liberals are trying to recruit Mark Carney if they have to find a new leader.

So I heard - I mean that would be well received here in Britain...

Don't know what he's like as a person to be honest.

[DC Al Fine]

Tories take the lead in a new Nova Scotia poll from MQO research. Greens are surging too. Brackets are change from last MQO poll.

Tory: 38% (+5)
Liberal: 30% (-11)
NDP: 18% (-1)
Green: 12% (+7)

[Poirot]

The leader of Quebec's Parti Vert disagrees with the federal Green party on oil sands. The Canadian greens want to stop importing oil and use Canadian oil.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1172660/parti-vert-quebec-canada-may-tyrrell-desaccord

He thinks tarsands oil is more polluting and the party should be against it.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.5155786/elizabeth-may-wants-to-only-use-canadian-oil-a-plan-quebec-s-green-party-leader-can-t-support-1.5155814

[MillennialModerate]

The Liberals are DOA this year.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

The Conservatives could be in trouble due to even higher margins and wasted votes in Alberta. The  Conservatives will win a plurality of seats, but the Liberals will hold on due to being propped up by the NDP and maybe the Greens. Ford in ON is also a anchor around the party in Canada's electoral heartland.

[PSOL]

Canadian inquiry calls deaths of indigenous women 'genocide'

The 1,200-page report, which resulted from an inquiry launched by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government in 2016, blamed the violence on long-standing discrimination against indigenous people and Canada’s failure to protect them.

It also made sweeping recommendations to prevent future violence against indigenous women.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police revealed in 2014 that 1,017 aboriginal women had been murdered between 1980 and 2012.

Yeesh. Sobering stuff here.

On point, will we see any shifts in the First Nation vote this election, from Liberal to NDP? Also, does the Canadian Greens capture any of that electorate at all.

[538Electoral]

Right now I predict a Conservative victory.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/MPmarkwarawa/status/1141704471543549952

[beesley]

https://twitter.com/MPmarkwarawa/status/1141704471543549952

Mark was a great MP, and I mean it when I say that he will be very much missed. He cared very much about protecting the vulnerable, especially seniors and victims of crime.

I was going to say some things about Doug Ford's reshuffle, but they were largely negative and I didn't want to mix the two topics together really, so I'll just leave this link.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-cabinet-shuffle-live-polling-1.5182720

[Illiniwek]

Explain it to Illiniwek: Apparently twitter is lighting up about how Trudeau was trolling trump today by coughing in front of him. Why? I don’t see it man...

[beesley]

Explain it to Illiniwek: Apparently twitter is lighting up about how Trudeau was trolling trump today by coughing in front of him. Why? I don’t see it man...

It's because Trump sent CoS Mulvaney out of the Oval Office for coughing during an interview.