Canada General Discussion (2019-)

[DC Al Fine]

RIP: John Crosbie has died at 88.

They don't make them like that anymore. RIP

[T'Chenka]

So Trudeau has a beard all of a sudden. Caught me off guard.

Is Peter MacKay going to be the new Conservative leader?

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

So Trudeau has a beard all of a sudden. Caught me off guard.

Is Peter MacKay going to be the new Conservative leader?

It's going grey too. It's the end of baby face Justin Trudeau.

[PSOL]

Someone should change the title to reflect the new decade

Anyway, the protests by the Wet'suwet'en are heating up

[xelas81]

Why are protests over a pipeline resulting in protesters blockading railway lines?
Is there connection between railway owners and pipeline owners?

[PSOL]

Why are protests over a pipeline resulting in protesters blockading railway lines?
Is there connection between railway owners and pipeline owners?

They’re trying to get attention to their cause and are hoping that the civil disobedience causes the pipeline to be canceled.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Trudeau's wokeness and his stature as a global left-liberal leader continue to be paper-thin.

[T'Chenka]

Andrew Scheer says indigenous protestors need to "check their privilege."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/pipeline-protesters-need-to-check-their-privilege-conservative-leader-says-1.4812204

"These protesters, these activists, may have the luxury of spending days at a time at a blockade, but they need to check their privilege, they need to check their privilege and let people whose job depends on the railway system – small business, farmers – do their job," said Scheer.

He said the blockades are "illegal" and should be shut down by law enforcement.

[dead0man]

The pipeline was approved by all the elected tribal leaders on the path of the pipeline.  The un-elected "hereditary" chiefs are the ones leading the push to make sure the safest way to move one of the cleaner sources of energy is way more expensive than it needs to be and takes longer to get done and harming all Canadians (poor more than the rich too) in the process.  You'd think people would be on the side of the elected leaders and not some random dude who claims his great grandaddy was, but here we are.  You'd think they'd want energy companies to use the safest way to move the energy around too, but people are weird sometimes.

[T'Chenka]

The pipeline was approved by all the elected tribal leaders on the path of the pipeline.  The un-elected "hereditary" chiefs are the ones leading the push to make sure the safest way to move one of the cleaner sources of energy is way more expensive than it needs to be and takes longer to get done and harming all Canadians (poor more than the rich too) in the process.  You'd think people would be on the side of the elected leaders and not some random dude who claims his great grandaddy was, but here we are.  You'd think they'd want energy companies to use the safest way to move the energy around too, but people are weird sometimes.

Are the elected leaders disguating corrupt garbage, or do they actually represent the interests of their constituents? I genuinely don't know, but it's a huge question IMO.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/BoyerMichel/status/1229189542143459330

[dead0man]

The pipeline was approved by all the elected tribal leaders on the path of the pipeline.  The un-elected "hereditary" chiefs are the ones leading the push to make sure the safest way to move one of the cleaner sources of energy is way more expensive than it needs to be and takes longer to get done and harming all Canadians (poor more than the rich too) in the process.  You'd think people would be on the side of the elected leaders and not some random dude who claims his great grandaddy was, but here we are.  You'd think they'd want energy companies to use the safest way to move the energy around too, but people are weird sometimes.

Are the elected leaders disguating corrupt garbage, or do they actually represent the interests of their constituents? I genuinely don't know, but it's a huge question IMO.

I agree and I have no idea.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Hopefully the pipeline gets built

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/BoyerMichel/status/1229189542143459330

Lol what do people expect Trudeau to do here? Marc Miller, who's better qualified than Trudeau to deal with this, is currently meeting with the Mohawk protesters. This is why he has a Cabinet.

[DC Al Fine]

The pipeline was approved by all the elected tribal leaders on the path of the pipeline.  The un-elected "hereditary" chiefs are the ones leading the push to make sure the safest way to move one of the cleaner sources of energy is way more expensive than it needs to be and takes longer to get done and harming all Canadians (poor more than the rich too) in the process.  You'd think people would be on the side of the elected leaders and not some random dude who claims his great grandaddy was, but here we are.  You'd think they'd want energy companies to use the safest way to move the energy around too, but people are weird sometimes.

Are the elected leaders disguating corrupt garbage, or do they actually represent the interests of their constituents? I genuinely don't know, but it's a huge question IMO.

I agree and I have no idea.

Fun fact. Two of the hereditary chiefs involved in the protest actually ran for elected chief and lost to candidates who later agreed to the pipeline. Make of that what you will.

https://twitter.com/BoyerMichel/status/1229189542143459330

Lol what do people expect Trudeau to do here? Marc Miller, who's better qualified than Trudeau to deal with this, is currently meeting with the Mohawk protesters. This is why he has a Cabinet.

This is more a leadership question than a specific achievement question. The Prime Minister wants to avoid the perception that he's indifferent to indigenous issues on the left and that he's fiddling while Rome burns on the right. Sometimes you just need to be somewhere in person.

[RogueBeaver]

NL: Ball is quitting upon his successor's election.

[Don Vito Corleone]

I've been on vacation and I haven't been following politics too much. How much do people actually care about the protests/blockades? Are the comparisons to the Winter of Discontent accurate, or is it something people will likely forget come the next news cycle?

[DC Al Fine]

I've been on vacation and I haven't been following politics too much. How much do people actually care about the protests/blockades? Are the comparisons to the Winter of Discontent accurate, or is it something people will likely forget come the next news cycle?

If I had to guess, it's in between. Hard to tell though, and there haven't been any polls released with Feb field work yet

[RogueBeaver]

Wild NL news: opposition parties are talking with rebel Grits about a coalition to replace Ball.

[DC Al Fine]

My parents' propane dealer is no longer delivering to them as they only use propane as a secondary heat source. Propane is only being delivered to those who use it as their primary heat source.

A Dalhousie Univeristy food industry expert says we're about two weeks away from food shortages, starting in the Maritimes and spreading from there.

The Prime Minister has often expressed his dislike for right wing populism. He would do well to understand that empty grocery stores and shortages of heating fuel (in Canada... in winter) will do more for right wing populism than a hundred Maxime Berniers ever could.

[Don Vito Corleone]

The Prime Minister has often expressed his dislike for right wing populism. He would do well to understand that empty grocery stores and shortages of heating fuel (in Canada... in winter) will do more for right wing populism than a hundred Maxime Berniers ever could.

This is my big worry with regards to these blockades. However, I couldn't find any references to shortages in the article you linked.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/MariekeWalsh/status/1231755572837572608

[DC Al Fine]

The Prime Minister has often expressed his dislike for right wing populism. He would do well to understand that empty grocery stores and shortages of heating fuel (in Canada... in winter) will do more for right wing populism than a hundred Maxime Berniers ever could.

This is my big worry with regards to these blockades. However, I couldn't find any references to shortages in the article you linked.

D'oh! Linked the wrong article. Fixed

[DC Al Fine]

Latest Nanos poll

Tory: 36% (+5)
Liberal: 33% (-1)
NDP: 15% (-2)
Bloc: 7% (-1)
Green: 7% (-2)
People's: 1% (nc)

A good couple weeks for the Tories.

[CumbrianLefty]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is "People's"?