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« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2020, 09:56:14 AM »

2020 timeline where aoc endorses Warren and the progressive base consolidates around her instead of Bernie and it becomes a Warren vs Biden Primary
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« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2020, 07:58:39 PM »

Here's an idea that I'll need some help to flesh out a little. In 1936, the Presidential Election is between the Roosevelt/Garner Democratic Ticket, T. Roosevelt Jr./Day Republican Ticket, Borah/Rose Long Share Our Wealth Ticket, and the George/Caraway Southern Dem Ticket. Due to various factors, while Roosevelt does win the popular vote, he doesn't win it outright and the electoral college is sent to the House. While the Democrats still choose Roosevelt and Garner both men are visibly shaken from the ordeal and FDR is convinced to not run in 1940, though this is only the start of America's troubles when it comes to electoral politics.

My problem is how to get it set up. How would you set this up yourself, what would you recommend as the tickets if you think they should be changed, etc, etc? Any help is appreciated and since this is an idea that literally just came to me rn, feel free to rip it to shreds if you want.
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« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2020, 08:04:02 PM »

So I have two TL ideas, with one of them being dystopian, somewhat, so here they are :

1) Death of the Democrats - The End of the Republican/Democrat dicotimy following the 1928 election : A. Victor Donahey and Duncan U. Fletcher are nominated by the Democrats and they barely beat the (unchanged from OTL) Republican Ticket while losing the popular by a significant margin. It all looks good and it seems like President Donahey will be able to get his work done despite Republican opposition...and then the Depression hits. After the Republicans hold the White House and have super majorities in the Senate, House, and State Legislatures, the Democratic Party slowly fades away as another party left to the dustbin of history as a new party attempts to emerge to challenge the practical one party rule of the Republicans.

2) The Rise of the American Proto-Fascism, How Democracy forever ends : He hated them, Businessmen, immigrants, you name it. They had no right in America, not when they were abusing actual Americans. And the american people were none the wiser, voting for the same thing under different colors. That couldn't continue, and he would make sure of it. He had a great ability to speak, and he was going to use it to full advantage to win this Seat in the State Senate. And from there, his career would truly begin. (Begins in 1872 following 28 year old reluctant Democrat Joshua Green of New York as he runs for State Senate, Mayor, Governor, and later President, all while building his own political movement/party that'll eventually become the thing that ends representative democracy in the united states for good). <--- that's the dystopian one
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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2020, 11:35:58 AM »

I have one main idea that I think would be rather interesting:
What if Remain had won the 2016 Brexit Referendum?
This timeline would change all of UK politics for the last 4 years, with David Cameron staying on as PM and no 2017 and 2019 elections. What would Cameron be able to do between 2016 and the 2020 election, as he still had a (small) majority at this point. Would the Conservative party be so divided that nothing would able to be passed. Would UKIP skyrocket in support? How would the Labour party respond to the fact that many of their supporters had voted for brexit and tougher laws on immigration and sovreignty? Also, would the SNP still enjoy large levels of support or would labour be able to win back their heartlands in Scotland?
What do you all think of this idea?
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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2020, 11:45:12 AM »

I have one main idea that I think would be rather interesting:
What if Remain had won the 2016 Brexit Referendum?
This timeline would change all of UK politics for the last 4 years, with David Cameron staying on as PM and no 2017 and 2019 elections. What would Cameron be able to do between 2016 and the 2020 election, as he still had a (small) majority at this point. Would the Conservative party be so divided that nothing would able to be passed. Would UKIP skyrocket in support? How would the Labour party respond to the fact that many of their supporters had voted for brexit and tougher laws on immigration and sovreignty? Also, would the SNP still enjoy large levels of support or would labour be able to win back their heartlands in Scotland?
What do you all think of this idea?

Love it

Or perhaps a Labour government in 2015, I'd love to see ED
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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2020, 12:19:51 PM »

Yeah, that's another really interesting idea that I've been playing around with, especially if it was a coalition government with the SNP or the Lib Dems as Labour would have to play around with devolution. Also, in the 'Remain Wins' timeline, I think it would be interesting to see how a moderate, fiscally 'responsible' conservative government would react to the Covid-19 crisis due to the current conservative government having massive government spending and deficits due to the furlough scheme etc.., something the 2010-2015 conservative government was very afraid of.
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« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2020, 09:20:05 PM »

What about a Ron Paul revolution  TL , as it doesn’t seem like we have many libertarian TL
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« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2020, 06:43:18 PM »

What about a Ron Paul revolution  TL , as it doesn’t seem like we have many libertarian TL

Can you do that as I'm planning out my RTL and Byrnes as 1944 VP TLs as well as one where the Democrats win in 1928 only to be annihilated with the Depression.
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« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2020, 08:39:27 PM »

1.  George Wallace wins the Democratic primary and goes on to beat Ford in '76
2.  FDR doesn't run for reelection in 1940, and is succeeded by an isolationist Republican (Bricker?  Taft?)  How does WWII progress?  Cordell Hull is president from 1945-53. 
3.  Phil Bredesen (or another Southern conservadem) wins in 2008
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« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2020, 07:03:18 AM »

What about a Ron Paul revolution  TL , as it doesn’t seem like we have many libertarian TL

I thought about a Rand 16 timeline.
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« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2020, 08:26:22 AM »

1.  George Wallace wins the Democratic primary and goes on to beat Ford in '76
2.  FDR doesn't run for reelection in 1940, and is succeeded by an isolationist Republican (Bricker?  Taft?)  How does WWII progress?  Cordell Hull is president from 1945-53. 
3.  Phil Bredesen (or another Southern conservadem) wins in 2008

For #2, it depends. Does the US still embargo Japanese oil, because being isolationist doesn't mean you ignore stuff like that. If yes, then Pearl Harbor still happens and the US goes to war. If no, big nightmare scenario for America as practically all of Europe and East Asia falls to the Soviets and Communism, which could see a very, very gun-slinging America during the cold war.
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« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2020, 06:54:07 AM »

Posting this to remind myself not to forget about doing a Mike Bloomberg/Trump 2020 timeline with a third party candidate getting a higher vote share than all 3rd party candidates in 16.
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« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2020, 06:26:16 PM »

I might write a TL influenced by my recent post on the Random Maps thread, with several changes in regards to who is president and when they're President sometime after my Robert Todd Lincoln and Lodge TLs, which are both still being worked on, I'm just focusing more on the games I'm hosting/playing rn. I might do that TL or a TL that describes the life of an alternate Benito Mussolini who is born in the United States instead of in Italy.
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« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2020, 11:20:12 AM »

What if Lincoln kept Hannibal Hamlin on ticket in 1864?
What would American socio-political climate be like if Perot won in 1992?
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« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2020, 06:46:36 PM »

Trump runs as a Republican in 2000

Reagan wins the 1976 Republican Primary

LBJ runs in 1968

Ron Paul wins the 2012 Republican Primary
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« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2020, 04:34:27 AM »

What about a Ron Paul revolution  TL , as it doesn’t seem like we have many libertarian TL
It would be interesting if Reagan had a libertarian domestic policy.
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« Reply #66 on: July 24, 2020, 12:27:35 PM »

Nixon 1981-1989
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« Reply #67 on: July 24, 2020, 01:10:22 PM »

How about a TL where the 2005 assassination attempt on George W. Bush is successful? Imagine a President Cheney from '05 to '09, not to mention the effects of a President getting killed in a post-9/11 world.

Here's a link to the attempt in case people aren't familiar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_against_George_W._Bush
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« Reply #68 on: July 24, 2020, 01:21:21 PM »

1) Hillary 2008
2) Gephardt 2004
3) Huntsman 2012 -> Biden 2016
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« Reply #69 on: July 24, 2020, 09:35:48 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2020, 10:25:24 PM by darklordoftech »

- Hughes wins in 1916.

- Henry Wallace remains FDR’s running mate in 1944 and as a result becomes President in 1945.

- Dewey wins in 1948

- George Romney wins in 1968

- Humphrey wins in 1968

- J Caleb Boggs defeats Biden in 1972.

- Ford wins in 1976

- Democrats keep the Senate and keep ideological control of the House in 1980

- The economy doesn’t recover by 1984, causing Mondale to win.

- Dukakis wins in 1988.

- John Tower confirmed for Secretary of Defense.

- Democrats keep control of Congress in 1994.

- A terrorism-less Bush 43 Presidency.
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« Reply #70 on: July 25, 2020, 10:30:36 AM »
« Edited: July 25, 2020, 12:00:22 PM by Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More »

The steady decline, rapid fall, and partial long term continuity of the United States.

A lot of the straight up dystopian stuff that has come out of the forum over the years has dealt with a sort of Bronze Age Collapse type scenario where there is either a pandemic (where the death rate is similar to the current pandemic's survival rate) or a mix of Sarah Palin, major depression, and a nuclear Civil War that causes the United States, and all other large scale communities, to simply cease to exist.

What would be an interesting way to go is what if there was a Roman-style collapse over the course of the 70 years between 9/11 and the last president to officially governed the whole country 50-70 years later. Perhaps even there would still be a United States operating under a heavily amended constitution still functioning in the aftermath that was still, more or less, a non-sh**thole country. Maybe a country that can still be considered "developed" but barely, still had some elections and civil rights, and still had some influence over world affairs.

Some of the main themes could be-
 
2015-2025- The loss of hegemony
2025- 2040 - The rise of "socialism" as the dominant state ideology and the collapse of the 6th party system  (similar to the conversion of Rome to Christianity) By "socialism", I mean not state ownership of the economy but rather a shift from the medical model of governance from the moral one. Where there is less of a concern that using the political process to directly improve the lives of people would cause people to become lazy, stupid, or evil.
2030-2050 - Climate change cause economic hardship, global unrest, and migration. Maybe there is a minor nuclear war. Basically what happened to the Germans at the hands of the Huns and why they starting showing up more. Maybe this period marks a shift into what is being invested in. With Climate Change, things like medicine and agriculture become a bigger deal, while transportation and computing become more stagnant fields of study. By the end of the century, maybe there is no space program outside of small satellite or any new aircraft that can break the sound barrier. Things like video games, internet, and AI/Data probably are only slightly better. The big advancements are the ability to react quickly to new pathogens, being able to grow/manufacture enough food in sh**t environments, and being able to deal with the effects of advanced age and environmental degradation. Perhaps natural gas becomes the energy of the future as society "gives up" on climate change.   
2040- 2060- refugees and separatists disenfranchised by change beginning to cause serious problems (revolts/migrations of the late 4th and early 5th centuries)
2050- 2060 - The beginning of the end (similar to when Rome had to start accepting the autonomy of various provinces while still relying on them to deal with increasing threats)
2060-2070 The end game (About half of the country has autonomy and one ambitious politician or refugee ends up finally, but informally, abolishing the Government)
2070< Epilogue and the continuity of the "new" United States  
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« Reply #71 on: July 25, 2020, 04:53:42 PM »
« Edited: July 25, 2020, 04:57:00 PM by darklordoftech »

- Bob Dole 1988
- The 104th Congress doesn’t try to cut all those programs
- Elizabeth Dole 2000
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« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2020, 10:43:29 AM »

I think a timeline where Bernie Sanders wins the democratic primary in 2016 would be interesting. There might already be one on here, though.
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« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2020, 04:05:47 AM »

I'm thinking of redoing my Australin Republic timeline
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« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2020, 10:05:26 AM »

Considering working on a timeline where Biden squeaks out a win, Kanye after his current-year run actually starts the Birthday Party as a political party and quickly launches an actually successful political career.
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