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« Reply #1250 on: May 27, 2019, 03:35:01 PM »

I just don't think he's up to the rigors of a campaign these days and thus not electable, we don't need a nominee who has to nap half of the day.

Not necessarily disagreeing, but what evidence do we have that's the case?
There is none he made it up because he dislikes Biden.
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« Reply #1251 on: May 27, 2019, 10:27:04 PM »

Biden's campaign is one of limited exposure
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But there are risks. Voters in the early primary states - especially Iowa, with its caucus system that rewards on-the-ground organizing - want to see the candidates personally and often. And there is the danger that Biden's schedule could reinforce a word President Donald Trump is already using to describe his candidacy: sleepy.

Biden's campaign says that's not going to happen. "I have zero worry that any voter will leave a Joe Biden event with doubts about his energy," said Kate Bedingfield, his deputy campaign manager. "They're going to see it everywhere he goes."

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And here's former Vice President Joe Biden's agenda for the holiday weekend, according to his campaign: "Joe Biden has no public events scheduled."

Those seven words are becoming familiar for the Biden team. Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.
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« Reply #1252 on: May 27, 2019, 10:33:41 PM »

He has a trash record and is trash on the trail. They are hoping to ride Obama’s coattails to the nomination and then guilt people into preventing a second term of Trump’s presidency. He can’t take the heat of unscripted voter contact in uncontrolled environments. But that’s y’alls Uncle Joe.

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« Reply #1253 on: May 28, 2019, 12:20:02 AM »

Biden's campaign is one of limited exposure
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But there are risks. Voters in the early primary states - especially Iowa, with its caucus system that rewards on-the-ground organizing - want to see the candidates personally and often. And there is the danger that Biden's schedule could reinforce a word President Donald Trump is already using to describe his candidacy: sleepy.

Biden's campaign says that's not going to happen. "I have zero worry that any voter will leave a Joe Biden event with doubts about his energy," said Kate Bedingfield, his deputy campaign manager. "They're going to see it everywhere he goes."

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And here's former Vice President Joe Biden's agenda for the holiday weekend, according to his campaign: "Joe Biden has no public events scheduled."

Those seven words are becoming familiar for the Biden team. Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

Buh I was told past campaigns don't mean anything.
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« Reply #1254 on: May 28, 2019, 12:31:49 AM »

Biden's campaign is one of limited exposure
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But there are risks. Voters in the early primary states - especially Iowa, with its caucus system that rewards on-the-ground organizing - want to see the candidates personally and often. And there is the danger that Biden's schedule could reinforce a word President Donald Trump is already using to describe his candidacy: sleepy.

Biden's campaign says that's not going to happen. "I have zero worry that any voter will leave a Joe Biden event with doubts about his energy," said Kate Bedingfield, his deputy campaign manager. "They're going to see it everywhere he goes."

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And here's former Vice President Joe Biden's agenda for the holiday weekend, according to his campaign: "Joe Biden has no public events scheduled."

Those seven words are becoming familiar for the Biden team. Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

I mean you gotta hand it to Biden...he's running his campaign in accordance to his principles. Meeting with big donors, not bothering to release any health care plans or substantive policy proposals, not bothering to campaign because its ''his turn,'' running a campaign about reaching out the other side. This is the real Biden folks.
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« Reply #1255 on: May 28, 2019, 03:40:23 AM »

So far at least, Biden is spending most of his time at fundraisers rather than campaigning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-of-limited-exposure-how-long-can-he-keep-it-up/2019/05/26/dcc045e4-7e2e-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html

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Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

The light public schedule reflects the unique position of his campaign, advisers say: With near universal name recognition and high favorability ratings among Democrats, the former vice president does not need to introduce himself to voters like nearly every other candidate. And as the leader in early polls, he can attract media attention without splashy events.
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Since entering the race four weeks ago, Biden has held 11 public events, according to his campaign. Former congressman Beto O’Rourke of Texas held nearly four times that number in the same period, according to schedules. And Gillibrand, who is lagging in the polls, planned 11 stops in Iowa just over the holiday weekend.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has shown her face to the public at 27 events in the four weeks since Biden entered the race. Booker has had at least 27 events scheduled in the same time span, and Sanders has had at least 17 announced engagements.

And with the exception of O’Rourke — and unlike Biden — all of those candidates have full-time jobs in the Senate that keep them tethered to Washington most weeks.


Biden is already running the same loser campaign that Hillary did. Hold on to your lead and hide from the general public as much as possible. Make no news and hope to coast to a win based on how terrible Trump is. It's a terrible strategy that didn't work in 2016 and won't work now.
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« Reply #1256 on: May 28, 2019, 03:42:42 AM »

I just don't think he's up to the rigors of a campaign these days and thus not electable, we don't need a nominee who has to nap half of the day.

Same problem Hillary had. She either didn't want or couldn't handle a campaign schedule with lots of events. Dems win when they outwork their GOP opponent. Obama ran circles around McCain and Romney. Clinton outworked Bush and Dole. Trump is old, in mental decline and fat. It should be easy to outwork him. But not with Biden or Bernie. Both who are too damn old to do it.
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« Reply #1257 on: May 28, 2019, 07:45:00 AM »

So far at least, Biden is spending most of his time at fundraisers rather than campaigning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-of-limited-exposure-how-long-can-he-keep-it-up/2019/05/26/dcc045e4-7e2e-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html

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Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

The light public schedule reflects the unique position of his campaign, advisers say: With near universal name recognition and high favorability ratings among Democrats, the former vice president does not need to introduce himself to voters like nearly every other candidate. And as the leader in early polls, he can attract media attention without splashy events.
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Since entering the race four weeks ago, Biden has held 11 public events, according to his campaign. Former congressman Beto O’Rourke of Texas held nearly four times that number in the same period, according to schedules. And Gillibrand, who is lagging in the polls, planned 11 stops in Iowa just over the holiday weekend.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has shown her face to the public at 27 events in the four weeks since Biden entered the race. Booker has had at least 27 events scheduled in the same time span, and Sanders has had at least 17 announced engagements.

And with the exception of O’Rourke — and unlike Biden — all of those candidates have full-time jobs in the Senate that keep them tethered to Washington most weeks.


Biden is already running the same loser campaign that Hillary did. Hold on to your lead and hide from the general public as much as possible. Make no news and hope to coast to a win based on how terrible Trump is. It's a terrible strategy that didn't work in 2016 and won't work now.

Biden is the definition of remarkably absent. He knows he can't defend his past actions and that he doesn't fit in with the tune of the modern Democratic Party.
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« Reply #1258 on: May 28, 2019, 08:12:00 AM »

So far at least, Biden is spending most of his time at fundraisers rather than campaigning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-of-limited-exposure-how-long-can-he-keep-it-up/2019/05/26/dcc045e4-7e2e-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html

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Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

The light public schedule reflects the unique position of his campaign, advisers say: With near universal name recognition and high favorability ratings among Democrats, the former vice president does not need to introduce himself to voters like nearly every other candidate. And as the leader in early polls, he can attract media attention without splashy events.
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Since entering the race four weeks ago, Biden has held 11 public events, according to his campaign. Former congressman Beto O’Rourke of Texas held nearly four times that number in the same period, according to schedules. And Gillibrand, who is lagging in the polls, planned 11 stops in Iowa just over the holiday weekend.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has shown her face to the public at 27 events in the four weeks since Biden entered the race. Booker has had at least 27 events scheduled in the same time span, and Sanders has had at least 17 announced engagements.

And with the exception of O’Rourke — and unlike Biden — all of those candidates have full-time jobs in the Senate that keep them tethered to Washington most weeks.


Biden is already running the same loser campaign that Hillary did. Hold on to your lead and hide from the general public as much as possible. Make no news and hope to coast to a win based on how terrible Trump is. It's a terrible strategy that didn't work in 2016 and won't work now.

It actually wasn't that terrible of a strategy. She won the popular vote. Biden could run the exact same campaign literally and possibly win just because of the slight change in demographics from 2016 to 2020. Or he could do everything Hillary did but also just show up in Wisconsin. Not a bad strategy at all.
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« Reply #1259 on: May 28, 2019, 01:31:17 PM »

So far at least, Biden is spending most of his time at fundraisers rather than campaigning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-of-limited-exposure-how-long-can-he-keep-it-up/2019/05/26/dcc045e4-7e2e-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html

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Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

The light public schedule reflects the unique position of his campaign, advisers say: With near universal name recognition and high favorability ratings among Democrats, the former vice president does not need to introduce himself to voters like nearly every other candidate. And as the leader in early polls, he can attract media attention without splashy events.
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Since entering the race four weeks ago, Biden has held 11 public events, according to his campaign. Former congressman Beto O’Rourke of Texas held nearly four times that number in the same period, according to schedules. And Gillibrand, who is lagging in the polls, planned 11 stops in Iowa just over the holiday weekend.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has shown her face to the public at 27 events in the four weeks since Biden entered the race. Booker has had at least 27 events scheduled in the same time span, and Sanders has had at least 17 announced engagements.

And with the exception of O’Rourke — and unlike Biden — all of those candidates have full-time jobs in the Senate that keep them tethered to Washington most weeks.


Biden is already running the same loser campaign that Hillary did. Hold on to your lead and hide from the general public as much as possible. Make no news and hope to coast to a win based on how terrible Trump is. It's a terrible strategy that didn't work in 2016 and won't work now.

Biden is the definition of remarkably absent. He knows he can't defend his past actions and that he doesn't fit in with the tune of the modern Democratic Party.

I don't know why people say this. It is just not factually true.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/democratic-party-voters-analysis/index.html
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« Reply #1260 on: May 28, 2019, 01:44:23 PM »

So far at least, Biden is spending most of his time at fundraisers rather than campaigning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-of-limited-exposure-how-long-can-he-keep-it-up/2019/05/26/dcc045e4-7e2e-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html

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Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

The light public schedule reflects the unique position of his campaign, advisers say: With near universal name recognition and high favorability ratings among Democrats, the former vice president does not need to introduce himself to voters like nearly every other candidate. And as the leader in early polls, he can attract media attention without splashy events.
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Since entering the race four weeks ago, Biden has held 11 public events, according to his campaign. Former congressman Beto O’Rourke of Texas held nearly four times that number in the same period, according to schedules. And Gillibrand, who is lagging in the polls, planned 11 stops in Iowa just over the holiday weekend.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has shown her face to the public at 27 events in the four weeks since Biden entered the race. Booker has had at least 27 events scheduled in the same time span, and Sanders has had at least 17 announced engagements.

And with the exception of O’Rourke — and unlike Biden — all of those candidates have full-time jobs in the Senate that keep them tethered to Washington most weeks.


Biden is already running the same loser campaign that Hillary did. Hold on to your lead and hide from the general public as much as possible. Make no news and hope to coast to a win based on how terrible Trump is. It's a terrible strategy that didn't work in 2016 and won't work now.

Biden is the definition of remarkably absent. He knows he can't defend his past actions and that he doesn't fit in with the tune of the modern Democratic Party.

I don't know why people say this. It is just not factually true.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/democratic-party-voters-analysis/index.html

No doubt he does well with the old guard. But if Progressives stay home he's just asking for a hard time.
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« Reply #1261 on: May 28, 2019, 01:48:00 PM »

So far at least, Biden is spending most of his time at fundraisers rather than campaigning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-of-limited-exposure-how-long-can-he-keep-it-up/2019/05/26/dcc045e4-7e2e-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html

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Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

The light public schedule reflects the unique position of his campaign, advisers say: With near universal name recognition and high favorability ratings among Democrats, the former vice president does not need to introduce himself to voters like nearly every other candidate. And as the leader in early polls, he can attract media attention without splashy events.
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Since entering the race four weeks ago, Biden has held 11 public events, according to his campaign. Former congressman Beto O’Rourke of Texas held nearly four times that number in the same period, according to schedules. And Gillibrand, who is lagging in the polls, planned 11 stops in Iowa just over the holiday weekend.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has shown her face to the public at 27 events in the four weeks since Biden entered the race. Booker has had at least 27 events scheduled in the same time span, and Sanders has had at least 17 announced engagements.

And with the exception of O’Rourke — and unlike Biden — all of those candidates have full-time jobs in the Senate that keep them tethered to Washington most weeks.


Biden is already running the same loser campaign that Hillary did. Hold on to your lead and hide from the general public as much as possible. Make no news and hope to coast to a win based on how terrible Trump is. It's a terrible strategy that didn't work in 2016 and won't work now.

Biden is the definition of remarkably absent. He knows he can't defend his past actions and that he doesn't fit in with the tune of the modern Democratic Party.

I don't know why people say this. It is just not factually true.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/democratic-party-voters-analysis/index.html

No doubt he does well with the old guard. But if Progressives stay home he's just asking for a hard time.

The "progressive" wing isn't nearly as important as you think it is. Besides, it is not like Biden does terribly with them. He just isn't their first choice, but he is an acceptable choice if he ends up being the nominee.

Biden is both overrated and underrated at the same time. He is overrated in terms of the electability argument. But people underrate his broad appeal to many different factions in the party. It is a big reason why IMO, he is doing well so far in terms of polling.
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« Reply #1262 on: May 28, 2019, 01:54:55 PM »

So far at least, Biden is spending most of his time at fundraisers rather than campaigning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-of-limited-exposure-how-long-can-he-keep-it-up/2019/05/26/dcc045e4-7e2e-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html

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Aside from a campaign swing right after announcing his candidacy, Biden has kept his head down while his rivals rush from state to state to state. Even when he has held public events, they have included only a handful of questions from voters or reporters.

The light public schedule reflects the unique position of his campaign, advisers say: With near universal name recognition and high favorability ratings among Democrats, the former vice president does not need to introduce himself to voters like nearly every other candidate. And as the leader in early polls, he can attract media attention without splashy events.
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Since entering the race four weeks ago, Biden has held 11 public events, according to his campaign. Former congressman Beto O’Rourke of Texas held nearly four times that number in the same period, according to schedules. And Gillibrand, who is lagging in the polls, planned 11 stops in Iowa just over the holiday weekend.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has shown her face to the public at 27 events in the four weeks since Biden entered the race. Booker has had at least 27 events scheduled in the same time span, and Sanders has had at least 17 announced engagements.

And with the exception of O’Rourke — and unlike Biden — all of those candidates have full-time jobs in the Senate that keep them tethered to Washington most weeks.


Biden is already running the same loser campaign that Hillary did. Hold on to your lead and hide from the general public as much as possible. Make no news and hope to coast to a win based on how terrible Trump is. It's a terrible strategy that didn't work in 2016 and won't work now.

Biden is the definition of remarkably absent. He knows he can't defend his past actions and that he doesn't fit in with the tune of the modern Democratic Party.

I don't know why people say this. It is just not factually true.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/democratic-party-voters-analysis/index.html

No doubt he does well with the old guard. But if Progressives stay home he's just asking for a hard time.

The "progressive" wing isn't nearly as important as you think it is. Besides, it is not like Biden does terribly with them. He just isn't their first choice, but he is an acceptable choice if he ends up being the nominee.

Biden is both overrated and underrated at the same time. He is overrated in terms of the electability argument. But people underrate his broad appeal to many different factions in the party. It is a big reason why IMO, he is doing well so far in terms of polling.

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« Reply #1263 on: May 28, 2019, 02:41:24 PM »

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« Reply #1264 on: May 28, 2019, 05:39:36 PM »



Or thinks that attending events with other candidates present elevates them to his level, a typical frontrunner thing.
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« Reply #1265 on: May 28, 2019, 06:09:00 PM »



Or thinks that attending events with other candidates present elevates them to his level, a typical frontrunner thing.

Hillary didn't miss any of the forums in 2008. There were a total of 26 debates and forums, and she was there for every single one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_debates_and_forums#Debate_table
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« Reply #1266 on: May 28, 2019, 07:42:06 PM »

Why we don't see much of Joe on the trail lately his staff can't seem to control him...

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« Reply #1267 on: May 28, 2019, 08:34:25 PM »

It's worse...

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« Reply #1268 on: May 28, 2019, 08:39:57 PM »

It's worse...



This man is SICK
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« Reply #1269 on: May 28, 2019, 09:20:08 PM »

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« Reply #1270 on: May 28, 2019, 10:45:34 PM »



Or thinks that attending events with other candidates present elevates them to his level, a typical frontrunner thing.

Hillary didn't miss any of the forums in 2008. There were a total of 26 debates and forums, and she was there for every single one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_debates_and_forums#Debate_table

Yeah, she elevated the other candidates to her level. And then she lost.
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« Reply #1271 on: May 28, 2019, 10:51:12 PM »

It's worse...



That is so ing creepy. Seriously, who tells a 10 year old they are good looking. It's so weird.

Anyone know which Iowa Party Dinner he's skipping? They have 3 big ones - the Wing Ding, what used to be the Jefferson-Jackson and the picnic one.
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« Reply #1272 on: May 28, 2019, 11:22:50 PM »

It's worse...


Someone tell this weirdo to drop out before Trump wins another term.
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« Reply #1273 on: May 29, 2019, 07:32:17 AM »

It's worse...



That is so ing creepy. Seriously, who tells a 10 year old they are good looking. It's so weird.

Anyone know which Iowa Party Dinner he's skipping? They have 3 big ones - the Wing Ding, what used to be the Jefferson-Jackson and the picnic one.

I've heard many adults tell children that they are "pretty" or "handsome". It's not a sexual thing. I used to get comments from women who met/knew my mom that I was handsome or good looking  too. Those comments haven't continued unfortunately . . .
But for real, most adults would not find that comment weird at least not from the midwest.
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« Reply #1274 on: May 29, 2019, 07:39:57 AM »

Yeah, I get that a lot of people on here have policy differences with Joe Biden but this attempt to make him out as a pedophile is disgusting.
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