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« Reply #350 on: April 04, 2019, 03:54:57 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on. 
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.
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« Reply #351 on: April 04, 2019, 06:17:55 AM »

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« Reply #352 on: April 04, 2019, 07:05:24 AM »
« Edited: April 04, 2019, 07:11:52 AM by Russian Bear »






There are a lot of Useful Idiots who help Putin to take down the Uncle Joe, The Trump's most dangerous opponent.
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« Reply #353 on: April 04, 2019, 08:13:09 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on. 
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.
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« Reply #354 on: April 04, 2019, 10:02:34 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on. 
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
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« Reply #355 on: April 04, 2019, 10:11:39 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on.  
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

Nah, she's terrible at campaigning. Warren would have flopped badly. Biden wouldn't have had a chance against Clinton, either, though. Clinton would have exposed all of his skeletons. I'm not sure Sanders was the *most* likely potential candidate to beat Clinton in 2016 but he was certainly better positioned than either Biden or Warren.
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« Reply #356 on: April 04, 2019, 10:20:28 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on. 
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
LOL, that's nonsense. The Clinton campaign never truly feared losing to Sanders. The only fear they had were alienating Sanders' supporters which is why Clinton basically never attacked Sanders.
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« Reply #357 on: April 04, 2019, 10:26:32 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on. 
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
LOL, that's nonsense. The Clinton campaign never truly feared losing to Sanders. The only fear they had were alienating Sanders' supporters which is why Clinton basically never attacked Sanders.

Actually she attacked Sanders on issues like immigration, on Israel, gun issues.
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« Reply #358 on: April 04, 2019, 10:38:21 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on. 
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
This is false. Stop. Somehow Bernie managed to have overwhelming victories in the undemocratic caucuses orangized by the DNC.

He lost because non-white voters soundly rejected him. Many people especially rural blacks in the South and Spanish-speaking voters in the Southwest didn’t even know who he was.
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« Reply #359 on: April 04, 2019, 10:42:23 AM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on. 
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
This is false. Stop. Somehow Bernie managed to have overwhelming victories in the undemocratic caucuses orangized by the DNC.

He lost because non-white voters soundly rejected him. Many people especially rural blacks in the South and Spanish-speaking voters in the Southwest didn’t even know who he was.
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« Reply #360 on: April 04, 2019, 01:13:53 PM »

I’m still worried about is that Biden seemingly does have a somewhat solid base of potential supporters. On Instagram, where there was a post of Biden’s “apology” and many black people (unsurprisingly) still came to Biden’s defense, brought up Trump, and still plan on supporting Biden. Even my parents have pretty much have the same mindset about him. In other words, I hope Democratic voters can dodge this bullet. I would not be particularly ecstatic if my ballot has just the two names of Trump and Biden (not counting third parties) on it.
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« Reply #361 on: April 04, 2019, 02:21:14 PM »

I’m still worried about is that Biden seemingly does have a somewhat solid base of potential supporters. On Instagram, where there was a post of Biden’s “apology” and many black people (unsurprisingly) still came to Biden’s defense, brought up Trump, and still plan on supporting Biden. Even my parents have pretty much have the same mindset about him. In other words, I hope Democratic voters can dodge this bullet. I would not be particularly ecstatic if my ballot has just the two names of Trump and Biden (not counting third parties) on it.

I honestly believe that there is less than 1% chance that that will be the case at this moment. I don't even have Biden in my top 15 most likely Democatic candidates at this moment.
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« Reply #362 on: April 04, 2019, 02:28:55 PM »

There are a lot of Useful Idiots who help Putin to take down the Uncle Joe, The Trump's most dangerous opponent.

He's not Trump's toughest opponent, he would be his easiest by extremely far, with probably only two exceptions: John Delaney and Wayne Messam.
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« Reply #363 on: April 04, 2019, 02:35:50 PM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on.  
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
LOL, that's nonsense. The Clinton campaign never truly feared losing to Sanders. The only fear they had were alienating Sanders' supporters which is why Clinton basically never attacked Sanders.

Which is also the main reason she lost, because she couldn't be bothered putting him on the ticket. Clearly she had learned nothing from the team of rivalry in American political history that had served so many tickets well. To name a few of the more famous one: The JFK/Lyndon B. Johnson one of 1960. The Abraham Lincoln/Andrew Jackson one of 1860. The Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush one of 1980.
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« Reply #364 on: April 04, 2019, 03:56:18 PM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on.  
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
LOL, that's nonsense. The Clinton campaign never truly feared losing to Sanders. The only fear they had were alienating Sanders' supporters which is why Clinton basically never attacked Sanders.

Which is also the main reason she lost, because she couldn't be bothered putting him on the ticket. Clearly she had learned nothing from the team of rivalry in American political history that had served so many tickets well. To name a few of the more famous one: The JFK/Lyndon B. Johnson one of 1960. The Abraham Lincoln/Andrew Jackson one of 1860. The Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush one of 1980.
Bernie Sanders is an egomaniac. He would have been a nightmare on Clinton’s ticket. Y’all don’t remember him trying to debate Trump before the California Primary? Completely undermining the fact that mathematically Clinton would be the nominee. Kaine was a milquetoast pick but Bernie didn’t belong on that ticket.
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« Reply #365 on: April 04, 2019, 04:00:49 PM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on.  
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
LOL, that's nonsense. The Clinton campaign never truly feared losing to Sanders. The only fear they had were alienating Sanders' supporters which is why Clinton basically never attacked Sanders.

Which is also the main reason she lost, because she couldn't be bothered putting him on the ticket. Clearly she had learned nothing from the team of rivalry in American political history that had served so many tickets well. To name a few of the more famous one: The JFK/Lyndon B. Johnson one of 1960. The Abraham Lincoln/Andrew Jackson one of 1860. The Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush one of 1980.
Bernie Sanders is an egomaniac. He would have been a nightmare on Clinton’s ticket. Y’all don’t remember him trying to debate Trump before the California Primary? Completely undermining the fact that mathematically Clinton would be the nominee. Kaine was a milquetoast pick but Bernie didn’t belong on that ticket.

Both Trump and Hillary broke promises to debate Bernie in California. Both were too chicken.
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« Reply #366 on: April 04, 2019, 04:00:52 PM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on.  
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
LOL, that's nonsense. The Clinton campaign never truly feared losing to Sanders. The only fear they had were alienating Sanders' supporters which is why Clinton basically never attacked Sanders.

Which is also the main reason she lost, because she couldn't be bothered putting him on the ticket. Clearly she had learned nothing from the team of rivalry in American political history that had served so many tickets well. To name a few of the more famous one: The JFK/Lyndon B. Johnson one of 1960. The Abraham Lincoln/Andrew Jackson one of 1860. The Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush one of 1980.
Bernie Sanders is an egomaniac. He would have been a nightmare on Clinton’s ticket. Y’all don’t remember him trying to debate Trump before the California Primary? Completely undermining the fact that mathematically Clinton would be the nominee. Kaine was a milquetoast pick but Bernie didn’t belong on that ticket.

Couldn't disagree with you more. If there's one thing Bernie is not, it's egomaniac. He's pure selflessness, yet he has an utterly strong sense of passion, and that's what got the best of him before the Democratic convention. I totally agree with you that he should have conceded many, many weeks before.
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« Reply #367 on: April 04, 2019, 05:17:20 PM »

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« Reply #368 on: April 04, 2019, 05:40:45 PM »

Your favourite president weights in:



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« Reply #369 on: April 04, 2019, 05:41:35 PM »

Good Lord this guy takes a long time to make up his mind.
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« Reply #370 on: April 04, 2019, 05:45:42 PM »

Good Lord this guy takes a long time to make up his mind.

He'd been Joe Bidin' his time for other primaries as well.
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« Reply #371 on: April 04, 2019, 05:46:22 PM »

For once Trump does the right thing. Must be the first since forever I've been following him.
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« Reply #372 on: April 04, 2019, 06:09:45 PM »

Joe, don't run.  You missed the boat in 2016, just as Chris Christie missed his in 2012.  The ship has sailed.  Just move on.  
In all fairness, he wouldn't have won in 2016 either. Clinton was not beatable in that primary.

Warren could have beaten her.

One of the reasons why Clinton somewhat wasn't beatable in the primaries was because her campaign contacted with the Democratic National Committee to derail Sanders' primary campaign, which is cheating.
LOL, that's nonsense. The Clinton campaign never truly feared losing to Sanders. The only fear they had were alienating Sanders' supporters which is why Clinton basically never attacked Sanders.

Which is also the main reason she lost, because she couldn't be bothered putting him on the ticket. Clearly she had learned nothing from the team of rivalry in American political history that had served so many tickets well. To name a few of the more famous one: The JFK/Lyndon B. Johnson one of 1960. The Abraham Lincoln/Andrew Jackson one of 1860. The Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush one of 1980.
Bernie Sanders is an egomaniac. He would have been a nightmare on Clinton’s ticket. Y’all don’t remember him trying to debate Trump before the California Primary? Completely undermining the fact that mathematically Clinton would be the nominee. Kaine was a milquetoast pick but Bernie didn’t belong on that ticket.

Couldn't disagree with you more. If there's one thing Bernie is not, it's egomaniac. He's pure selflessness, yet he has an utterly strong sense of passion, and that's what got the best of him before the Democratic convention. I totally agree with you that he should have conceded many, many weeks before.

I can't say that you're wrong, but some of his supporters definitely seem to contradict that idea. One of his slogans is: "Not me. Us." Yet some of his supporters seem to live and die by a cult of personality around him.
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« Reply #373 on: April 04, 2019, 09:17:39 PM »






Biden has very good cross-over potential. There are some in the GOP who will not vote for the Orange Moron, and if Biden can acquire just a few of them at the polls, it will be huge.
Also shown above are how bad trump is with independents.
I know that staunch GOP/trump supporters fear Biden ... as they should.
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« Reply #374 on: April 04, 2019, 09:50:51 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2019, 09:59:49 PM by Hammy »






Biden has very good cross-over potential. There are some in the GOP who will not vote for the Orange Moron, and if Biden can acquire just a few of them at the polls, it will be huge.
Also shown above are how bad trump is with independents.
I know that staunch GOP/trump supporters fear Biden ... as they should.

Biden appealing to Republicans a year and a half before the election is the worst possible argument for nominating him, because we all know most, if not all, of those will vote Trump anyway. Dems need to focus on somebody who will actually turn out the base (which failed to happen in 2016.) If he wins the nomination, then this country is lost because it means that Dems see replacing Trump as the primary endgame, not the starting point. And if they refuse to look beyond 2020 this country deserves as punishment whatever Trump's reelection brings.
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