S.19.1-8: Protecting the Health of Babies and Women Act (Statute)

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

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b. The Abortion Safety and Guidelines Act shall be amended as follows:

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SECTION III: TIMING

1. This bill shall take effect immediately.[/quote]
Sponsor: Alancia

[Mr. Reactionary]

This is largely a response to Governor Blackface and ensures that South has appropriate laws in place to protect women and babies.

Changes include:

- A rule requiring abortion clinics to either have a doctor with hospital admitting privileges or a contract with a hospital to admit patients if need be. The distance allowed is 200 miles which is very generous considering the law so vehemently opposed in Texas required it to be within 40 miles. This is 5 X more permissive.

- Increasing the inspection fees for ensuring abortion clinics are clean and safe.

- Eliminating the exception for consensual incest. Remember, rape babies are still exempt including rape babies caused as the result of nonconsensual incest.

- Setting the federal requirements for distributing abortion bills as the standard in the south.

- Prohibiting third-trimester abortions unless 2 doctors who arent financially related to certify that the abortion is necessary to prevent serious physical harm to the patient. The law in Virginia is currently 3 doctors so this is also more permissive that some laws.

- Protecting fetuses born alive during botched abortions

- Criminalizing the nonconsensual murder of fetuses (Like shooting a pregnant woman but not killing  her but killing the fetus)

- Declares May 1, 2019, Choose Life Day

[CMB222]

Complete support from me.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I am appalled by the actions of Governor Northam and would support the changes to the Abortion Safety and Guidelines act as proposed in a standalone version, as I will propose below.

However, I cannot support the changes to the Protecting Health of Women and Babies Act. This represents an attempt by Mr. Reactionary to undo the results of last session, which agreed on invididual amendment votes that each of the three changes proposed here is inappropriate and oppressive. The bill in its current enacted form already represents a compromise as I allowed the strecher-related requirements to remain in the bill, and I cannot support further oppressive changes:

1. On incest, I stand by what I said last session:

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2. On Taxation, the current provisions already allow for a substantial tax and to my knowledge, within the domain of Atlasia, nothing has arisen that would seem to demand a raise.
3. Admitting Privilege Requirements are unrealistic, oppressive, and likely unconstitutional, regardless of the distance used.



With that, I offer my Substitute Amendment:

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SECTION III: TIMING

1. This bill shall take effect immediately.[/quote]

24 hours to object to the Amendment

[Mr. Reactionary]

I still see no reason why babies conceived from consensual incest are deserving of less protection from generally applicable regulations. Rape and medical complications are involuntary. Lumping in consensual incest with nonconsensual issues makes no sense and the mere argument that "its always been this way" is a flawed argument for why something should be maintained.

The inspection fees are reasonable and again fund health and safety inspections.

And the admitting privileges are much more flexible than any real life restrictions so that should minimize concerns.

I hope the sponsor objects.

[Lumine]

The acronym, as noted elsewhere, rather blatantly goes against the terms of service. I'll remove the title and references to it, and will have to ask to Chamber to find a different title.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The moment when realize this unalterable truth:



TOS>>>> Atlasia

[alancia]

I must object. First off, while abortion in cases of incest can be debated, it is my view that pregnancies that come from consensual interaction must be protected. Of course, those that come from rape and non-consensual interaction are not considered into this, and abortion remains legal in these cases.

The increased abortion tax and/or fees would also go to help our health and social services as mentioned earlier, which will in the future make it so that women don't have to choose to have an abortion in the first place - plus funding the existing clinics, which will make the situation better for women choosing to terminate their pregnancy.

[Mr. Reactionary]

I would like the new title to be: "No more baby holocaust act"

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Objection having been heard, a Vote occurs on the Amendment. Please Vote AYE or NAY on the amendment.

AYE

[alancia]

Nay

[YE]

Can we avoid extreme titles of bills?

[Mr. Reactionary]

Can we avoid extreme titles of bills?

Funny titles are more than half the fun of bill writing.

[YE]

Can we avoid extreme titles of bills?

Funny titles are more than half the fun of bill writing.

Yea I know lol but funny doesn’t always mean extreme

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I hate to have to do this but I'm voting Nay, even though I am a firm supporter of allowing abortions in case of incest. A narrower amendment simply modifying that provision alone would have got my vote. If this amendment fails, I plan on putting forth an amendment that would modify the bill to this effect.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Vote will be closed in 16 hours or when all members have voted.

[CMB222]

Nay

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Amendment is rejected by a vote of 1-3.

I hate to have to do this but I'm voting Nay, even though I am a firm supporter of allowing abortions in case of incest. A narrower amendment simply modifying that provision alone would have got my vote. If this amendment fails, I plan on putting forth an amendment that would modify the bill to this effect.

The Speaker is recognized to offer his amendment.

[alancia]

As sponsor, I object. Like Mr. Reactionary said, pregnancies coming from consensual and willing incest must not be lumped with those coming from nonconsensual incest. In the last case, abortion will be permitted,

[Mr. Reactionary]

Eugenics scares me.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

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this amendment simply changes one element of the bill to allow abortions in case of incest. the rest of the bill stands unchanged.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Objection having previously been filed, a vote occurs on the amendment offered by the Speaker. Please vote AYE or NAY on the amendment.

Aye

[alancia]

Nay

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Aye

[TheSaint250]

Nay