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« Reply #1000 on: December 31, 2020, 07:35:58 AM »

If each state swung like the strongest D swing for Biden. Added lots of extra data for hovering over.



So, each state swings the same as its strongest county swing in real life? Also, a minor point, I think Cook, MN swung so much because it’s vacation country and full of liberal retirees, and is actually ancestrally Republican.
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« Reply #1001 on: January 01, 2021, 03:22:03 PM »

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« Reply #1002 on: January 04, 2021, 07:47:49 PM »

Here's a new map I created. This is a map of the 2004 election by county, in the Ferguson Scenario. Incumbent Democratic President Al Gore wins reelection to a second term against Republican Senator Bob Smith and one particular businessman, who is the Reform Party nominee. Who is that businessman, and what would the state results map look like?

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« Reply #1003 on: January 04, 2021, 09:09:30 PM »

Here's a new map I created. This is a map of the 2004 election by county, in the Ferguson Scenario. Incumbent Democratic President Al Gore wins reelection to a second term against Republican Senator Bob Smith and one particular businessman, who is the Reform Party nominee. Who is that businessman, and what would the state results map look like?




Is this the map? And I assume it's Trump based off the way you're describing. Unless it's a trick question…
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« Reply #1004 on: January 04, 2021, 10:58:12 PM »

Here's a new map I created. This is a map of the 2004 election by county, in the Ferguson Scenario. Incumbent Democratic President Al Gore wins reelection to a second term against Republican Senator Bob Smith and one particular businessman, who is the Reform Party nominee. Who is that businessman, and what would the state results map look like?




Is this the map? And I assume it's Trump based off the way you're describing. Unless it's a trick question…

The map is close, but not quite. And it is Trump, who is the stand-in for Ross Perot. The Ferguson Scenario, as I've noted before, is predicated off George H.W. Bush winning reelection easily in 1992.
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« Reply #1005 on: January 08, 2021, 03:02:08 PM »
« Edited: January 08, 2021, 03:07:24 PM by bagelman »



Average of 2016 and 2020, the 2018 election.
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« Reply #1006 on: January 08, 2021, 04:12:36 PM »



Average of 2016 and 2020, the 2018 election.

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« Reply #1007 on: January 08, 2021, 07:30:00 PM »

1968 Alt History: RFK vs Nixon vs Wallace



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« Reply #1008 on: January 09, 2021, 02:53:10 AM »

1968 Alt History: RFK vs Nixon vs Wallace



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Who does Bobby pick for VP?
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« Reply #1009 on: January 09, 2021, 04:59:17 PM »

1968 Alt History: RFK vs Nixon vs Wallace



Thoughts? Concerns?

Who does Bobby pick for VP?

Oof, didn’t think about that.

Eugene McCarthy maybe? They were both against the Vietnam War. I don’t know how much that would’ve helped or hurt them. Though maybe if the JFK nostalgia was still strong then he could probably pull it off, or maybe the average voters back then would’ve saw both of them as too far left.
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« Reply #1010 on: January 09, 2021, 06:10:46 PM »

A good RFK VP could be someone like Terry Sanford or Ralph Yarborough.
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« Reply #1011 on: January 10, 2021, 04:04:17 PM »


Oof, didn’t think about that.

Eugene McCarthy maybe? They were both against the Vietnam War. I don’t know how much that would’ve helped or hurt them. Though maybe if the JFK nostalgia was still strong then he could probably pull it off, or maybe the average voters back then would’ve saw both of them as too far left.

The only way Kennedy wins Maine (with >50% to boot) is if he picks Ed Muskie as running mate. It would not have gone to Humphrey in real life otherwise, as the comparison to nearby Vermont and New Hampshire, which had a pretty similar electoral history, shows.
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« Reply #1012 on: January 10, 2021, 05:42:03 PM »

2014 South Carolina Gubernatorial Election

Gov. Vincent Sheheen: 56.43% | 703,328
State Sen. Lee Bright: 39.61% | 493,704
Other: 3.95% | 49,264
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« Reply #1013 on: January 10, 2021, 05:53:37 PM »


Oof, didn’t think about that.

Eugene McCarthy maybe? They were both against the Vietnam War. I don’t know how much that would’ve helped or hurt them. Though maybe if the JFK nostalgia was still strong then he could probably pull it off, or maybe the average voters back then would’ve saw both of them as too far left.

The only way Kennedy wins Maine (with >50% to boot) is if he picks Ed Muskie as running mate. It would not have gone to Humphrey in real life otherwise, as the comparison to nearby Vermont and New Hampshire, which had a pretty similar electoral history, shows.

I agree Humphrey would probably have narrowly lost Maine without Muskie, but a win wouldn’t have been impossible. Maine was the most Democratic of the trio of Upper New England states in every election from 1964-1980 inclusive (very nearly voting for Carter twice), and Humphrey did very well in New England that election.
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« Reply #1014 on: January 10, 2021, 10:38:21 PM »

2008 Alternate History (Hillary Clinton vs John McCain)



Also for running mates, McCain still chooses Sarah Palin, while Hillary Clinton chooses Evan Bayh (Indiana senator).

Louisiana is the closest state, followed by Tennessee, Montana, and North Carolina.
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« Reply #1015 on: January 10, 2021, 10:57:22 PM »

2024 Presidential Election in a split-party scenario:



VP Kamala Harris (CA)/Gov. Roy Cooper (NC): 406 Electoral Votes, 51% popular vote
Sen. Ted Cruz (TX)/Gov. Kristi Noem (SD): 132 Electoral Votes, 41% popular vote
Fmr. Rep. Lauren Boebert (CO)/Fmr. State Sen. Amanda Chase (VA): 0 electoral votes, 6% popular vote
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« Reply #1016 on: January 12, 2021, 02:46:44 AM »

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« Reply #1017 on: January 12, 2021, 08:55:09 PM »

A very different 1972 where RFK didn't die in 1968. He narrowly loses the nomination to Humphrey in 1968, who loses to Nixon.

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« Reply #1018 on: January 12, 2021, 10:00:17 PM »



Last election in my RFK->[REDACTED]->Harrington game.
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« Reply #1019 on: January 13, 2021, 04:42:20 AM »

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« Reply #1020 on: January 13, 2021, 10:04:28 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2021, 12:16:24 AM by Unconditional Surrender Truman »

2024

President Joseph Robinette Biden (Democratic, Delaware) / Vice President Kamala Devi Harris (Democratic, California) 496 electoral votes (44 states), 51% popular votes
Former President Donald John Trump (Patriot, Florida) / Governor Kristi Lynn Noem (Patriot, South Dakota) 42 electoral votes (7 states + NE3), 31% popular votes
Former Vice President Michael Richard Pence (Republican, Indiana) / former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nimrata Nikki Haley (Republican, South Carolina) 0 electoral votes, 16% popular votes
Others (Various) 0 electoral votes, 2% popular votes
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« Reply #1021 on: January 13, 2021, 11:15:30 PM »


Noem is South Dakotan.
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« Reply #1022 on: January 14, 2021, 12:16:38 AM »


Not after the poles reverse.
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« Reply #1023 on: January 14, 2021, 07:20:33 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2021, 07:25:54 PM by CookieDamage »

No Landslides

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« Reply #1024 on: January 14, 2021, 07:37:19 PM »

1980


Would be very interested to know the pv result/margin ITTL, considering Reagan only barely got to 50%+1 IOTL.
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