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« Reply #375 on: November 22, 2019, 10:28:16 PM »

2016: Rick Santorum vs. Hillary Clinton



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« Reply #376 on: November 24, 2019, 11:09:15 AM »
« Edited: November 24, 2019, 05:36:31 PM by LabourJersey »

2020 Presidential Election:



President Donald Trump (R-FL)/Vice President Michael Pence (R-IN): 328 Electoral Votes, 46.7%
Fmr. Mayor Michael Bloomberg (D-MN)/Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA): 210 Electoral Votes, 46.5%
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (I-HI)/Fmr. State Sen. Nina Turner (I-OH): 0 Electoral Votes, 5.4%
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« Reply #377 on: November 29, 2019, 09:53:01 AM »

1940, Garner runs 3rd party



✓ President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/Secretary Henry Wallace (D-IA): 309 EVs.; 48.9%
Businessman Wendell Willkie (R-IN)/Senator Charles McNary (R-OR): 164 EVs.; 44.3%
Vice President John Nance Garner (I-TX)/Senator Harry F. Byrd (I-VA): 58 EVs.; 6.2%
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« Reply #378 on: November 30, 2019, 07:58:05 PM »

War of the Losers

2016 republican primary



Gov. Chris Christie
Sen. Rand Paul
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson
Fmr. Gov Jeb Bush


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« Reply #379 on: December 09, 2019, 03:08:53 AM »

1964: Goldwater comes close to winning if he won every state Johnson won by under 60%.



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From there, Wins in Delaware, Colorado, Iowa, Washington and Wisconsin put Goldwater over the top.

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« Reply #380 on: December 10, 2019, 04:34:09 AM »

1960: Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 303 EVs; 49,72% PV defeated VP Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Fmr. Sen. Clifford Case (R-MA) 219 EVs; 49,55% PV



John F. Kennedy was killed on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, Texas. His Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson became a President. He found himself compromised with the deceased President's brother. Robert Kennedy was named one of Johnson's biggest critics, he believed Johnson was guilty of killing his brother, while post of Vice President was vacant
Under the threat of a split in the party, Johnson was forced to appoint Kennedy Vice President


1964: Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/VP Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) 486 EVs; 61,1% PV defeated Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Rep. William Miller (R-NY) 52 EVs; 38,5% PV


Lyndon Johnson was elected full term in landslide. He was extremely popular, but on 15.08.1966 he had a severe heart attack. Doctors could not save him and on 16.08.1966 he died. Johnson's entourage blamed the Vice President for his death, because Johnson was very close to accepting Kennedy's rebukes and accusations.
 
The next President of the United States was Robert Francis Kennedy. After 2 years he was killed in California at an election rally.

On June 6, 1968 Vice President Stephen Young become a President. Senator Hubert Humphrey become a Vice President
Democratic National Convention formed such a ticket:
Stephen Young for President
Hubert Humphrey for Vice President
They lost elecion to Republicans


1968: Gov. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Rep. John Anderson (R-IL) 291 EVs; 48,1% PV defeated Pres. Stephen Young (D-OH)/VP Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 220 EVs; 43,8% PV




1972: Pres. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/VP John Anderson (R-IL) 525 EVs; 61,9% PV defeated Sen. George McGovern (D-SD)/Fmr. Gov. Terry Sanford (D-NC) 13 EVs; 36,8% PV



Nelson Rockefeller was reelected in landslide. He was very popular, but died on September 8, 1975. The official cause of death was a heart attack due to overweight. John Anderson becane President, he chose Maryland Senator Charles Mathias as his Vice President, but their ticket lost election in 1976


1976: Sen. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 301 EVs; 49,5% PV defeated Pres. John Anderson (R-IL)/VP Charles Mathias (R-MD) 237 EVs; 49,1% PV



Hubert Humphrey died on January 13, 1978 of bladder cancer at his home in Waverly, Minnesota. Ted Kennedy became a President, he chose California Governor Jerry Brown as his Vice President


1980: Pres. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/VP Jerry Brown (D-CA) 284 EVs; 50,3% PV defeated Fmr. Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Fmr. Sec. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 254 EVs; 48,2% PV



Ted Kennedy was killed during an election rally for Harriett Woods in Missouri. This was done by 3 Kennedy brothers who were President and were killed in office. In November, Harriett Woods defeated incumbent Senator John Danforth and Missouri.
Vice President Jerry Brown became a President, he chose Minnesota Senator Walter Mondale as his VP. Their ticket lost election to Republican Richard Lugar, who promised to end the presidential assassination


1984: Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN)/Fmr. Pres. John Anderson (R-IL) 375 EVs; 52,3% PV defeated Pres. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN) 163 EVs; 45,6% PV




1988: Pres. Richard Lugar (R-IN)/VP John Anderson (R-IL) 459 EVs; 49,9% PV defeated Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE) 79 EVs; 49,3% PV



Richard Lugar passed away after being bitten by an encipital mite 2 years ago. John Anderson became a President for a second time. He was elected in 1992 to full term

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« Reply #381 on: December 10, 2019, 01:17:13 PM »

This is fascinating! But also gruesome to behold...
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« Reply #382 on: December 10, 2019, 03:47:04 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2019, 04:31:52 PM by President Johnson »

Just a sidenote: Before the adoption of the 25th Amendment in 1967, it was actually not possible to appoint vice presidents during a presidential term. The office could only be filled after the next presidential election and remained vacant if a vice president died, resigned or assumed the presidency. In case something happened to the president, the speaker would have assumed the role of acting president. This actually never happened though.

Also, the popular vote wouldn't be as close in the 1988 map above.
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« Reply #383 on: December 10, 2019, 04:29:02 PM »

Just a sidenote: Before the adoption of the 25th Amendment in 1967, it as actually not possible to appoint vice presidents during a presidential term. The office could only be filled after the next presidential election and remained vacant if a vice president died, resigned or assumed the presidency. In case something happened to the president, the speaker would have assumed the role of acting president. This actually never happened though.

Also, the popular vote wouldn't be as close in the 1988 map above.
Let's say the 25th Amendment was passed in 1963 right after Kennedy's assassination
And about 1988, I just forgot to correct the numbers from the other layout
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« Reply #384 on: December 11, 2019, 11:48:15 PM »

2008: Obama's absolute best case scenario.



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« Reply #385 on: December 13, 2019, 10:43:44 AM »

1952, Dewey vs. Truman rematch



✓ Governor Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Senator Richard Nixon (R-CA): 366 EVs.; 50.9%
President Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Governor Adlai Stevenson (D-IL): 120 EVs.; 44.4%
Senator John Sparkman (Dix-AL)Senator Harry F. Byrd (Dix-VA): 45 EVs.; 3.6%
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« Reply #386 on: December 16, 2019, 02:55:57 PM »

1976 (hypothetical)



Carter/Mondale 49.0% / 188 EV
Ford/Brooke 48.7% / 350 EV

A beautiful map it is, truly! I'm sure many holes could be poked in it, but...

AL and MS vote differently;
OR, whose Senator was one of only 2 in the US who voted against the Tonkin Gulf Resolution in 1964, and one of McGovern's best states in '72, votes with the military-minded Deep South;
MA, MN defy the rest of the North;
MS defies the rest of the South;
a PV loser crushes its opposition in the EC.
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« Reply #387 on: December 17, 2019, 03:21:11 AM »

1924, without La Follette



✓ President Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)/Former Budget Director Charles Dawes (R-IL): 374 EVs.; 58.3%
Former Ambassador John W. Davis (D-WV)/Governor Charles W. Bryan (D-NE): 157 EVs.; 38.9%
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« Reply #388 on: December 18, 2019, 07:53:09 AM »



2000: Bill Bradley vs. George W. Bush

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« Reply #389 on: December 19, 2019, 10:25:36 AM »

1912, head-to-head



✓ Former President Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Governor Hiram Johnson (R-CA): 326 EVs.; 51.3%
Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 205 EVs.; 46.4%




✓ Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 324 EVs.; 50.0%
President William Howard Taft (R-OH)/Mr. Nicholas Butler (R-NY): 207 EVs.; 45.5%
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« Reply #390 on: December 20, 2019, 02:17:05 AM »

1912, head-to-head



✓ Former President Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Governor Hiram Johnson (R-CA): 326 EVs.; 51.3%
Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 205 EVs.; 46.4%




✓ Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 324 EVs.; 50.0%
President William Howard Taft (R-OH)/Mr. Nicholas Butler (R-NY): 207 EVs.; 45.5%

I'm glad somebody agrees Wilson would beat Taft one in one
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« Reply #391 on: December 20, 2019, 02:28:31 AM »

1912, head-to-head



✓ Former President Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Governor Hiram Johnson (R-CA): 326 EVs.; 51.3%
Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 205 EVs.; 46.4%




✓ Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 324 EVs.; 50.0%
President William Howard Taft (R-OH)/Mr. Nicholas Butler (R-NY): 207 EVs.; 45.5%

I'm glad somebody agrees Wilson would beat Taft one in one

I was unsure about some states, but overall, I believe Wilson would have defeated Taft, who was not that much of a popular prez at the time. I even read somewhere if TR had not run, he may have retired after 1 term.
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« Reply #392 on: December 20, 2019, 02:42:30 AM »

1912, head-to-head



✓ Former President Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Governor Hiram Johnson (R-CA): 326 EVs.; 51.3%
Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 205 EVs.; 46.4%




✓ Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN): 324 EVs.; 50.0%
President William Howard Taft (R-OH)/Mr. Nicholas Butler (R-NY): 207 EVs.; 45.5%

I'm glad somebody agrees Wilson would beat Taft one in one

I was unsure about some states, but overall, I believe Wilson would have defeated Taft, who was not that much of a popular prez at the time. I even read somewhere if TR had not run, he may have retired after 1 term.

My opinion has always been that Roosevelt would have beaten Wilson but Wilson would beat Taft. So on this debate, we are in agreement
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« Reply #393 on: December 21, 2019, 11:56:21 PM »

What an 11.5% margin of victory in the popular vote (The margin of victory Boris Johnson won in the UK elections) for Trump would've looked like in 2016:



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« Reply #394 on: December 23, 2019, 01:27:36 AM »

Using that President Elect game to play 1968, Playing with Wallace really well I was able to get him to 186 electoral votes. Humphrey won the election with 10 states due to the house.



224-186-128

Nixon - 35%
Humphrey - 34%
Wallace - 31%
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« Reply #395 on: December 23, 2019, 01:41:16 AM »

Using same President Elect game, I played 1980 with Anderson and did really well getting 3 states and 62 electoral votes. Reagan still won a decisive victory.



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« Reply #396 on: December 23, 2019, 03:11:26 AM »

Using same President Elect game, I played 1980 with Anderson and did really well getting 3 states and 62 electoral votes. Reagan still won a decisive victory.



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1980...when has that been a scenario?  It was always 16, 12, 2000, 88, 76, 68, 60, 48, 1916, 1896, 1860, and 1844
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« Reply #397 on: December 23, 2019, 03:19:12 AM »

Using same President Elect game, I played 1980 with Anderson and did really well getting 3 states and 62 electoral votes. Reagan still won a decisive victory.



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1980...when has that been a scenario?  It was always 16, 12, 2000, 88, 76, 68, 60, 48, 1916, 1896, 1860, and 1844

Different game
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« Reply #398 on: December 24, 2019, 04:28:44 PM »

Using same President Elect game, I played 1980 with Anderson and did really well getting 3 states and 62 electoral votes. Reagan still won a decisive victory.



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1980...when has that been a scenario?  It was always 16, 12, 2000, 88, 76, 68, 60, 48, 1916, 1896, 1860, and 1844

You’re thinking of Campaign Trail. President Elect 1988 is a different game from the 80s. I would put a link to the emulator here but i’m on mobile. I believe there’s a thread about the game on this board, though.
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« Reply #399 on: December 24, 2019, 09:37:34 PM »

https://archive.org/details/msdos_President_Elect_-_1988_Edition_1987 Link to President Elect game.



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Random 1960 win as Nixon.
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