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« Reply #1375 on: January 30, 2022, 03:48:17 PM »

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« Reply #1376 on: January 30, 2022, 07:14:02 PM »

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President McKeithen died in a plane crash in July 1976. Birch Bayh became unpopular with southerners and many moderates when he sent more troops overseas. The Republicans split on the issue of neoliberalism vs. social conservatives; when Bush won a contentious nomination by caking his opponent Ronald Reagan in mud, SoCons were ready to rebel. Reagan refused to run, so they found a hero in former VP and conservative talk show host Spiro Agnew under the Moral Majority party, or Moral party for short. George McGovern campaigned for the Peace and Love party, which was popular with hippies and young people opposed to war. It cut into the support of a democratic ticket that largely ignored liberals, even with the addition of Walter Mondale.

George C. Wallace ran a more populist campaign intending on bringing more non-southerns to support him. It worked magic.  Promising to "kick the money-changers out of the people's temple" in Washington DC, few pundits gave him more than a longshot chance of victory as most had originally been surprised he was running at all. He would prove just how foolish they were.

1976



President Wallace was much less of a disaster than many groups, especially minority groups, believed. Academics point to his record as Alabama governor as being pro-civil rights by deep southern standards to explain this. However, he did try to pass a state's rights bill on some issues such as school busing. Congress and the Supreme Court made it clear before he even set foot in the oval office that any attempt to allow segregation would fail.

President Wallace, who had been forced to withdraw for the '72 election as a result of a failed attempt on his life, struggled with health problems throughout his presidency. His presidency was not a failure, as he worked with congress to pass important legislation working to prevent serious inflation.

President Wallace declined to run for reelection, citing poor health and lack of energy late in his presidency. The AIP nominated Vice President Lamm, who's opponents made a huge issue of a major gaffe ("Old people have a duty to die"). Lamm campaigned on the issues of state's rights, the success of the Wallace presidency, and the evils of returning to a two-party duopoly.

The GOP, having been bitterly divided and conquered four years ago, had only one option to heal itself. Ronald Reagan, who had crushed economic elites such as Nelson Rockefeller and Dick Cheney, moderates such as Gerald Ford, and far-right Moral Majoritarians such as Spiro Agnew who was blasted for leaving the party and was ruined by long-suppressed evidence finally coming out from the 60s regarding his corruption while commissioner of Baltimore County, MD.

Ronald Reagan sought to reinvent the GOP in his image. After winning the nomination, Reagan was endorsed by all of his major primary opponents and by the Moral Majority party which was already being re-absorbed by the GOP. Reagan chose former Illinois governor and future president Donald Rumsfeld as his running mate, adding a young face to the ticket.

The Democrats nominated former New York gov. Hugh Carey as their nominee. Carey was endorsed by his primary rival Walter Mondale and selected southerner Jimmy Carter as his running mate. Jimmy Carter was a good choice as it allowed the democrats to campaign better in the south.

Hugh Carey was not the great orator that Reagan was. Because of his demeanor he came across and angry and older than Reagan, even though Reagan was older. Carey later revealed in his memoirs that if his wife was still alive, he would have been more charming and charismatic on the campaign trail.

George McGovern campaigned to be renominated for the Peace and Love party, but lost the nomination to a rising start in Ron Dellums, who chose attorney Ralph Nader to be his running mate. Ron Dellums became the first African-American candidate to receive electoral votes in a presidential election. 

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« Reply #1377 on: January 30, 2022, 07:45:23 PM »



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2016 president



2016 senate



2016 gov



2018 senate



2018 gov



*2017 and 2019 gubernatorial elections are identical to our timeline in terms of winners, all results shifted slightly to the left

2020 president



2020 senate



2020 gov



Results after 2020:

Senate: 53D-47R
28 governorships

Headlines:

"Filibuster removed"

"2020 redistricting has the fairest maps in decades"

"Build Back Better passed, work beginning on Public Option"

etc, etc


So close to the good timeline, yet so far...





How do the House elections go in this blessed universe?
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« Reply #1378 on: February 01, 2022, 11:35:47 AM »

Messing with the apportionment feature.  This is some weird future where the coasts decline in population as people flee inland to the new capital in Colorado.

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« Reply #1379 on: February 01, 2022, 12:44:17 PM »

1st round of the 2016 US election with McMullin as Macron and other things similar to France


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« Reply #1380 on: February 01, 2022, 06:16:20 PM »

The second round

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« Reply #1381 on: February 02, 2022, 12:15:26 AM »

Messing with the apportionment feature.  This is some weird future where the coasts decline in population as people flee inland to the new capital in Colorado.



I imagine this as a world where drastic sea level rise has devastated the coasts. Hawaii in particular is politically Not The Same.
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« Reply #1382 on: February 02, 2022, 07:03:08 PM »

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« Reply #1383 on: February 03, 2022, 10:03:40 AM »

Messing with the apportionment feature.  This is some weird future where the coasts decline in population as people flee inland to the new capital in Colorado.



I imagine this as a world where drastic sea level rise has devastated the coasts. Hawaii in particular is politically Not The Same.
Yes, that's about what happened.  Hawaii has very few people by this time and they're just clinging on around the mountains.
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« Reply #1384 on: February 09, 2022, 09:11:12 AM »
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1984 election. Vice President Hugh Gordon is running for a term of his own. His project is to unite old school new deal Democrats with the new neoliberal wing of the party. His home state is Missouri. Micheal J. Hoffman, the Republican nominee, is from the more moderate wing of his party and is running on his record of military service and political experience. He is from California.

George Wallace Bush is the scion of the political family that made the Republican party a power in Mississippi. After carpetbagging from Virginia, they would join the lily white faction of the MS GOP that would crush the black and tans after Goldwater was nominated. Bush would become the state governor in the 1970s, having left office a few years ago. He thought about trying to woo a Major League Baseball team to Memphis or New Orleans but after deciding that wasn't going to happen, ran for President in 1984 on a platform of being the conservative southern choice in a race between two liberal Yankees (despite Hoffman being very geographically southern and Gore being from the Upper Southern state of Missouri).

There were many narrowly decided states in this election. West Virginia, which should have been an easy Democratic win, was greatly discouraged by Gordon's support of pro-environmental policies, but held due to divided opposition. New Jersey was an important state in the election and Bush's third place share of the vote was enough to spoil Hoffman. Hoffman won the support of the suburbs of Milwaukee, with overwhelming numbers in places like Waukesha, turning that state into a GOP island. Iowa was won by the farm vote for Gordon, and he was the favorite son in Missouri despite a great deal of dissent. Bush was several counties in southern Missouri.  

Hoffman won California as the favorite son in the south and was liberal enough for the north to digest. Bush won a great deal of support in eastern and northern Texas, enough to put the state out of reach of Hoffman despite the GOP growing their base in that state.

That leaves the second closest state: Ohio, which is simply a story of Bush spoiling Hoffman and Gordon narrowly winning by less than a percentage point due to very strong showings in the northeast. Gordon was on track to win Florida due to similar reasons but instead, by a tiny margin of not even a thousand votes, Bush won the state outright. In doing so he achieved his real goal: deadlock the electoral college.

With Florida recounts having been halted by the Supreme Court, and Republicans still protesting in the streets of Columbus against the Ohio Board of Elections, the nation gets to look forward to an uncertain contingent vote in the House. A Hoffman victory despite losing the popular vote and having fewer EC votes than Gordon is very possible. Heck, a Bush vote isn't impossible either, if he can somehow string together Republicans and Southern Democrats. Bush's 30.7% of the vote is very respectable for third place, so it wouldn't be as insane as, say, Wallace in '68.
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« Reply #1385 on: February 10, 2022, 09:35:40 AM »

Every election since 2000 now follows the 306-232 rule. I will post maps that show the other party winning with the previous elections electoral vote count.

2000 if the Lewinsky scandal grew more serious:



2004 if Bush took a more controversial immigration stance:



2008 if the housing crisis wasn't as severe:



2012 if the economy never recovered:



2016 if Kasich ran and every state shifted exactly 9% toward the GOP from 2012:

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« Reply #1386 on: February 10, 2022, 08:18:12 PM »

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« Reply #1387 on: February 12, 2022, 08:51:21 PM »

An alternate 1852 Election:



Taylor survives and attempts to have a more Northern/anti-slavery Compromise of 1850 with poor results. The 1852 election becomes a referendum on compromise and slavery, causing almost a totally polarized election between free and slave states (the Democratic strongholds of Indiana and New Hampshire not withstanding.

Ultimately the election begins the start of the War Between the States (1853-54) which ruptures the country in two.
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« Reply #1388 on: February 13, 2022, 12:49:39 PM »

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« Reply #1389 on: February 13, 2022, 02:28:34 PM »

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« Reply #1390 on: February 13, 2022, 06:25:03 PM »

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« Reply #1391 on: February 14, 2022, 02:38:15 PM »

An alternative US that speaks Portuguese instead of English. The candidate in purple is running to become the first female president, but she is defeated by blue. Party names interchangeable/meaningless. 

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« Reply #1392 on: February 14, 2022, 09:17:42 PM »

An alternate 1852 Election:



Taylor survives and attempts to have a more Northern/anti-slavery Compromise of 1850 with poor results. The 1852 election becomes a referendum on compromise and slavery, causing almost a totally polarized election between free and slave states (the Democratic strongholds of Indiana and New Hampshire not withstanding.

Ultimately the election begins the start of the War Between the States (1853-54) which ruptures the country in two.

The Election of 1856:


Following the shameful defeat of the Union by the Confederated States in December 1854, the Whig party collapses under the weight of its tensions and its failures. Stephen A. Douglas is elected in a landslide, carrying even staunch Whig territory, as the Country wants to move on from the horror of the War between the States and the failure of President Taylor to keep it together. The Whig party dissolved shortly after. The Democrats hold on to the White House for 16 years before the American Party, a coalition of anti-slavery Whigs, old Free Soilers, nativist Democrats and German Americans finally wins power in 1872.
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« Reply #1393 on: February 15, 2022, 10:46:39 AM »
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Democratic candidate is Jon Ossoff, the first Jewish nominee who will be the first Jewish President. Republicans nominate a populist who is the first nonwhite nominee in that party's history. Democratic "squad" members of congress from places like Detroit and Minneapolis break ranks and endorse the Republican, for his/her attacking of "big business and the banker class". Democratic efforts to win moderates in Michigan and Minnesota fails but has surprising success in the deep south and in the prairies.

Ossoff accused his Republican opponent of antisemitism several times during the campaign (not always without merit, then again not always with merit), and he has promised that ties with Israel will be "closer than ever before" under his administration. The Republican wanted to pull out of the Middle East and focus American efforts elsewhere.

This is a map of whether a state has more "Israeli-Americans" or "Palestinian-Americans" converted into an election map. The least realistic aspect of the map is Democratic wins in OK and ID while the GOP holds KS, TX, and flips IL. Aside from some odd details though it's not terrible.
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« Reply #1394 on: February 15, 2022, 06:40:17 PM »

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« Reply #1395 on: February 17, 2022, 11:46:17 AM »



All states that trended D in our world vote D in this one. 4 states (NC AL NJ PA from most to least D) that trended R in our world vote D in this one, these are the closest states. All other R trending states vote R.
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« Reply #1396 on: February 18, 2022, 06:02:34 PM »



Democrats hoping for a big win against the boisterous and anti-intellectual President Dubya were sorely disappointed. Despite leading in the polls and winning the popular vote easily enough (although not a majority thanks to third party votes), Democratic nominee Henry R. Clinton only won thanks to narrow margins in Virginia and New Hampshire. Henry Clinton's old home state of Arkansas was almost R+5, and the crucial swing states of IA/FL/OH all went Dubya especially OH at R+3. That being said Clinton was still elected President. Dubya's closest win was in ME-2, causing that state to split its electoral votes.
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« Reply #1397 on: February 18, 2022, 09:15:03 PM »

2004:

Kerry/Dean (D): 325 EV/ 52.0% PV
Bush/Cheney (R): 213 EV/ 46.3% PV

SENATE:

D: 52 (+3)
R: 48 (-3)

HOUSE:
D: 220 (+14)
R: 215 (-14)

2005-2007 Kerry Term: OTL Obamacare with moderate pricing controls and making Medicaid expansions opt-out instead of in is passed, and the deficit and debt are lower since the troops were withdrawn from Iraq and the Bush Tax Cuts were eliminated on the rich. In the period before the 2006 Election the President was able to pass a tax enforcement bill to prevent offshore tax dodging.

2006:

D: 50 (-2)
R: 50 (+2)

R: 233 (+18)
D: 202 (-18)

2007-2009: Nothing happens. Republicans obstruct most things, and only a bare-bones relief plan is pushed through. The good news is that with more banking regulations the mortgage crisis isn't as bad, and the recession hurts the average American a bit less.

KERRY SCOTUS:
CJ: Elena Kagan (2005)
AJ: Merrick Garland (2005)
AJ: Sonia Sotomayor (2006) SOUTER
AJ: Andrew Kleinfield (2006) STEVENS

2008:

Allen/Palin (R): 286 EV/ 49.7% PV
Kerry/Dean (D): 252 EV/ 48.7% PV

SENATE:

R: 53 (+3)
D: 47 (-3)

HOUSE:
R: 235 (+2)
D: 200 (-2)

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« Reply #1398 on: February 18, 2022, 09:44:01 PM »

George Allen with Bush's RL 2004 map
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« Reply #1399 on: February 19, 2022, 10:48:39 AM »



LBJ doesn't escalate the Vietnam War.
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