1968: Strom Thurmond the Republican nominee
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« on: January 23, 2019, 08:42:26 PM »

How would he do against Humphrey and (if he runs) Wallace?
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 11:05:12 PM »

Humphrey landslides, Wallace gets to be the second third party in history to get second place
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2019, 08:58:34 PM »

Humphrey landslides, Wallace gets to be the second third party in history to get second place
Would Wallace even run in that case?
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2019, 10:00:34 AM »

Wallace doesn't run if Thurmond does.  Thurmond gets clobbered, but does significantly better than Wallace.  There are too many states that are so Republican they wouldn't vote for Humphrey in a two-way contest, even against someone like Thurmond.  So something like this:



Humphrey 355, Thurmond 183
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2019, 05:42:19 PM »

Wallace doesn't run if Thurmond does.  Thurmond gets clobbered, but does significantly better than Wallace.  There are too many states that are so Republican they wouldn't vote for Humphrey in a two-way contest, even against someone like Thurmond.  So something like this:

Humphrey 355, Thurmond 183
I don't know about that even.  Maybe I'm overestimating Humphrey but my feeling is that a borderline segregationist might alienate more Northern Republican voters.  I wonder if a splinter ticket (Mark Hatfield?) might jump in.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 08:06:51 PM »

Wallace doesn't run if Thurmond does.  Thurmond gets clobbered, but does significantly better than Wallace.  There are too many states that are so Republican they wouldn't vote for Humphrey in a two-way contest, even against someone like Thurmond.  So something like this:



Humphrey 355, Thurmond 183
That looks just like a "modern" map.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2019, 04:27:12 PM »

I think Thurmond improves a little bit on Goldwater's 1964 performance, but he still loses in a landslide.

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2019, 07:59:16 PM »

Strom loses big.

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 01:13:43 AM »

Dissatisfaction with the state of the country and the war are a major challenge for Humphrey/Muskie.  Thurmond, burdened by his own past vocal support for segregation, chooses for VP the young governor of Nevada, Paul Laxalt, as a conservative who can nonetheless appeal to a broader audience.  But even though Thurmond promises not to turn back the clock on racial issues, he struggles to convince the nation he can unify and bring normalcy in a time of tumult.  Humphrey wins the election.



Humphrey/Muskie  358  55.3%
             Thurmond/Laxalt   180  43.6%
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2019, 09:02:47 AM »

Thurmond actually wanted to run for President in 1968 but tbh his run 20 years earlier basicaliy killed all his presidential ambition
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