Are state government assault weapons bans unconstitutional?
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« on: November 05, 2005, 11:26:23 AM »

So some of the strict constructionists actually have to think this time around.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2005, 11:56:44 AM »

No, as long as state governments don't take away the right to own a firearm, they can regulate which kinds however they wish.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2005, 12:42:45 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2005, 01:40:11 PM »

No, as long as state governments don't take away the right to own a firearm, they can regulate which kinds however they wish.


No.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2005, 02:05:05 PM »

The Second Amendment does not merely protect the collective right of the people to bear arms. It protects the individual rights of every person (see this post for an excellent explanation). Once it is established that the Second Amendment protects individual rights, this question may be answered very easily. A state ban on the possession of an assault weapon is just as unconstitutional as a ban on the possession of any other arms.

It is often argued that the Second Amendment only prohibits the complete denial of the right to bear arms. This line of reasoning, however, is inappropriate. The Second Amendment does not prohibit merely the complete denial of this right, but also any "infringe[ment]."

The Supreme Court of Kentucky interpreted a similar provision in the state constitution in 1822. It ruled in Bliss v. Commonwealth, "to be in conflict with the constitution, it is not essential that the act should contain a prohibition against bearing arms in every possible form--it is the right to bear arms ... that is secured by the constitution, and whatever restrains the full and complete exercise of that right, though not an entire destruction of it, is forbidden."

Not everything, of course, is an "arm" within the meaning of the Second Amendment. But a semi-automatic firearm most certainly is, and the right to bear it may not be infringed by any state.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2005, 02:24:51 PM »

The Second Amendment does not merely protect the collective right of the people to bear arms. It protects the individual rights of every person (see this post for an excellent explanation). Once it is established that the Second Amendment protects individual rights, this question may be answered very easily. A state ban on the possession of an assault weapon is just as unconstitutional as a ban on the possession of any other arms.

It is often argued that the Second Amendment only prohibits the complete denial of the right to bear arms. This line of reasoning, however, is inappropriate. The Second Amendment does not prohibit merely the complete denial of this right, but also any "infringe[ment]."

The Supreme Court of Kentucky interpreted a similar provision in the state constitution in 1822. It ruled in Bliss v. Commonwealth, "to be in conflict with the constitution, it is not essential that the act should contain a prohibition against bearing arms in every possible form--it is the right to bear arms ... that is secured by the constitution, and whatever restrains the full and complete exercise of that right, though not an entire destruction of it, is forbidden."

Not everything, of course, is an "arm" within the meaning of the Second Amendment. But a semi-automatic firearm most certainly is, and the right to bear it may not be infringed by any state.

Which is why the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of gun bans in the past.  (And no, I'm not going to debate this a third time this month.  Someone else can this time.)
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2005, 02:32:21 PM »

Which is why the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of gun bans in the past.
The Supreme Court is not infallible. U.S. v. Miller was, in my opinion, one of many incorrect decisions that the court has made.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2005, 10:39:29 PM »

Yes.
    All gun bans are unconstitutional.  The freedoms specifically stated in the Constitution are not left to the states, they were designed to be untouchable.
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