Kamala Harris 2020 campaign megathread

[Progressive Pessimist]

I'm done worrying about the female candidates' "electability." We need one of the women to be our nominee, they are miles better than most of the male candidates.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Absolutely pathetic

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-reverses-answer-abolishing-private-health-insurance-saying-she-misheard-question/%3foutputType=amp

What the hell does "abolishing private health insurance" even mean? The debate in US politics over this is so confusing, do people think private insurance is illegal in countries like the UK?

The idea would be that single payer would replace most of the private insurance. I don't think anyone would outlaw it, but it wouldn't really make sense for most people in a single payer system. Even Bernie isn't proposing a UK style NHS. Which is too bad, since a NHS could help cut costs, or at least be a position to compromise to merely single payer from.

Making a government health plan a cheaper option isn't "abolishing private insurance".

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Absolutely pathetic

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-reverses-answer-abolishing-private-health-insurance-saying-she-misheard-question/%3foutputType=amp

That was a very poorly worded question, and you know that.

Besides, I'm happy she doesn't support abolishing private insurance. It's not smart electorally and would be a disaster to healthcare.

[libertpaulian]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

But is there anyone who is wave-proof in the field?

[Ilhan Apologist]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

But is there anyone who isn't wave-proof in the field?

Did you mean "is"? If so, I second that question.

[Dr. Arch]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

But is there anyone who isn't wave-proof in the field?

Did you mean "is"? If so, I second that question.

Maybe Pete, maybe Yang

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

But is there anyone who isn't wave-proof in the field?

Did you mean "is"? If so, I second that question.

You are correct. I was typing this on my phone in a car (Don't worry I wasn't driving)

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

But is there anyone who isn't wave-proof in the field?

Did you mean "is"? If so, I second that question.

Maybe Pete, maybe Yang

But how? We don't know how well Yang's policies go over in swing districts/states, and I don't see what skills Pete has that Kamala or even Biden don't have that helps him.

[Annatar]

In terms of 2020, I have stated before I believe Biden would be a weak candidate for a variety of reasons and that someone like Bernie would be better against Trump, Harris would be even worse than Biden, Harris as a corporate democrat has many of the same downsides as Biden but doesn't even have the ability to make an emotional appeal to white voters outside the major metro areas the way Biden does, she would likely do far worse than Biden in those areas, worse even than Hillary.

In PA, Obama won Philly + its 4 suburban counties + city of Pittsburgh which is Allegheny County by 705,000 votes, Hillary won those areas by 770,000, maybe Harris can get to 800,000, at most 850,000, if Trump can do even 3% better outside of those areas in margin in the rest of the state, that is win a rural county he won by 30% in 2016 by 33% in 2020, not that difficult to achieve, he will be able to sustain even a 900,000 vote deficit in Philly + its suburbs + City of Pittsburgh and still win by 17,000 votes.

[History505]

In terms of 2020, I have stated before I believe Biden would be a weak candidate for a variety of reasons and that someone like Bernie would be better against Trump, Harris would be even worse than Biden, Harris as a corporate democrat has many of the same downsides as Biden but doesn't even have the ability to make an emotional appeal to white voters outside the major metro areas the way Biden does, she would likely do far worse than Biden in those areas, worse even than Hillary.

In PA, Obama won Philly + its 4 suburban counties + city of Pittsburgh which is Allegheny County by 705,000 votes, Hillary won those areas by 770,000, maybe Harris can get to 800,000, at most 850,000, if Trump can do even 3% better outside of those areas in margin in the rest of the state, that is win a rural county he won by 30% in 2016 by 33% in 2020, not that difficult to achieve, he will be able to sustain even a 900,000 vote deficit in Philly + its suburbs + City of Pittsburgh and still win by 17,000 votes.

They all could still lose to Trump.

[Mr. Smith]

In terms of 2020, I have stated before I believe Biden would be a weak candidate for a variety of reasons and that someone like Bernie would be better against Trump, Harris would be even worse than Biden, Harris as a corporate democrat has many of the same downsides as Biden but doesn't even have the ability to make an emotional appeal to white voters outside the major metro areas the way Biden does, she would likely do far worse than Biden in those areas, worse even than Hillary.

In PA, Obama won Philly + its 4 suburban counties + city of Pittsburgh which is Allegheny County by 705,000 votes, Hillary won those areas by 770,000, maybe Harris can get to 800,000, at most 850,000, if Trump can do even 3% better outside of those areas in margin in the rest of the state, that is win a rural county he won by 30% in 2016 by 33% in 2020, not that difficult to achieve, he will be able to sustain even a 900,000 vote deficit in Philly + its suburbs + City of Pittsburgh and still win by 17,000 votes.

Counters:

Harris could close the 1,000 gap Yuma County and turn a 50,000 deficit over to a 50,000 gain in Maricopa, lower the deficit in Yavapai, and pad out the margins in Santa Cruz, Coconino, and Apache, which flips Arizona.

Add that to building on Hillary's share of the Cuban vote and rallying the Puerto Rican vote to get excellent margins in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties, and then she could combine that with Gillum's numbers in Seminole and Duval Counties, and that flips over Florida.

If she flips those two states, she wins. No Rust Belt needed.

Crazy you say, so was the Rust Belt moving before Colorado and Virginia in the aftermath of 2012. But Trump needed an open. So he took it.

Also Pennsylvania was more Democratic than the nation for way longer than Florida's been Republican.

[Rookie Yinzer]

This is more than the first day of her campaign right?

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1144990657813127169

[Da2017]

In terms of 2020, I have stated before I believe Biden would be a weak candidate for a variety of reasons and that someone like Bernie would be better against Trump, Harris would be even worse than Biden, Harris as a corporate democrat has many of the same downsides as Biden but doesn't even have the ability to make an emotional appeal to white voters outside the major metro areas the way Biden does, she would likely do far worse than Biden in those areas, worse even than Hillary.

In PA, Obama won Philly + its 4 suburban counties + city of Pittsburgh which is Allegheny County by 705,000 votes, Hillary won those areas by 770,000, maybe Harris can get to 800,000, at most 850,000, if Trump can do even 3% better outside of those areas in margin in the rest of the state, that is win a rural county he won by 30% in 2016 by 33% in 2020, not that difficult to achieve, he will be able to sustain even a 900,000 vote deficit in Philly + its suburbs + City of Pittsburgh and still win by 17,000 votes.

Counters:

Harris could close the 1,000 gap Yuma County and turn a 50,000 deficit over to a 50,000 gain in Maricopa, lower the deficit in Yavapai, and pad out the margins in Santa Cruz, Coconino, and Apache, which flips Arizona.

Add that to building on Hillary's share of the Cuban vote and rallying the Puerto Rican vote to get excellent margins in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties, and then she could combine that with Gillum's numbers in Seminole and Duval Counties, and that flips over Florida.

If she flips those two states, she wins. No Rust Belt needed.

Crazy you say, so was the Rust Belt moving before Colorado and Virginia in the aftermath of 2012. But Trump needed an open. So he took it.

Also Pennsylvania was more Democratic than the nation for way longer than Florida's been Republican.

She should take back Michigan easily. You could make the case that Clinton lost it because of personal baggage.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Absolutely pathetic

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-reverses-answer-abolishing-private-health-insurance-saying-she-misheard-question/%3foutputType=amp

What the hell does "abolishing private health insurance" even mean? The debate in US politics over this is so confusing, do people think private insurance is illegal in countries like the UK?

from Bernie's 2017 "Medicare for All' bill (co-sponsored by Harris, Gillibrand and Booker):

SEC. 107. Prohibition against duplicating coverage.

(a) In general.—Beginning on the effective date described in section 106(a), it shall be unlawful for—

(1) a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act; or

(2) an employer to provide benefits for an employee, former employee, or the dependents of an employee or former employee that duplicate the benefits provided under this Act.

(b) Construction.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed as prohibiting the sale of health insurance coverage for any additional benefits not covered by this Act, including additional benefits that an employer may provide to employees or their dependents, or to former employees or their dependents.

I guess the idea is that since basic health care is a "right," you shouldn't be able to charge people for it, even if it's available for free elsewhere.

[RI]

Can someone explain what's up with Harris's accent? It sure isn't Californian.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

In terms of 2020, I have stated before I believe Biden would be a weak candidate for a variety of reasons and that someone like Bernie would be better against Trump, Harris would be even worse than Biden, Harris as a corporate democrat has many of the same downsides as Biden but doesn't even have the ability to make an emotional appeal to white voters outside the major metro areas the way Biden does, she would likely do far worse than Biden in those areas, worse even than Hillary.

In PA, Obama won Philly + its 4 suburban counties + city of Pittsburgh which is Allegheny County by 705,000 votes, Hillary won those areas by 770,000, maybe Harris can get to 800,000, at most 850,000, if Trump can do even 3% better outside of those areas in margin in the rest of the state, that is win a rural county he won by 30% in 2016 by 33% in 2020, not that difficult to achieve, he will be able to sustain even a 900,000 vote deficit in Philly + its suburbs + City of Pittsburgh and still win by 17,000 votes.

I don't see Trump gaining raw numbers in the Leigh Valley and Reading/Harrisburg/Lancaster/York areas. These mid-sized cities are still growing, are reasonably well-off, and are increasingly dialed into the rest of the Northeast Corridor.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

No one is going to be a wave-proof President, Republicans will hate any Democrat and come out in droves to vote against them in the midterms.

[Mr. Smith]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

No one is going to be a wave-proof President, Republicans will hate any Democrat and come out in droves to vote against them in the midterms.

True, but Dems could nominate someone that could play the trends to the hilt the same way Trump did and created a red tint in the Senate.

And 2022 is an excellent map to get such an effect in The Senate, even as the GOP make inevitable gains elsewhere.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

This is more than the first day of her campaign right?

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1144990657813127169

Yep. She raised half a million more.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

If her polls continue to rise and Booker gets stuck at 3%, he needs to support Harris, this will get black leadership, to do more to support Harris.

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe still defends her

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1145104672929308673

[Famous Mortimer]

Kamala Harris is Black. She is American citizen. She is of African descent.

She is not however a descendant of American slaves who came here 300 years ago. She is a descendant of recent immigrants who came here in living memory, one of whom wasn't even partially Black.

Her culture and ancestry are fundamentally different from the culture and ancestry of most African Americans.

It's a funny thing that the push for mass immigration and Affirmative Action started at the same time. This is not a coincidence.

When the government began to mandate diversity, most businesses did not want to hire American born Blacks, who were generally less educated. So they pushed the government to allow the elite of non-white countries to immigrate here so they could fill their diversity slots with them instead. Affirmative Action was thought up with African Americans in mind but most of the benefits went to Asian immigrants, the majority of whom came here in last 50 years and never experienced oppression from the US government.

Today the Democratic Party operates much the same way. They don't run members of America's historic Black population. They run the children of recent immigrants who were raised in Canada (Harris) or the children of foreign politicians (Obama).

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1145319070205665280

[JG]

One thing that should worry Harris supporters is that she doesn't seem like she'd be a wave-proof President (think 2022 and 2024, and if she manages to win a second term, 2026).

No one is going to be a wave-proof President, Republicans will hate any Democrat and come out in droves to vote against them in the midterms.

True, but Dems could nominate someone that could play the trends to the hilt the same way Trump did and created a red tint in the Senate.

And 2022 is an excellent map to get such an effect in The Senate, even as the GOP make inevitable gains elsewhere.

Any Republican president would have created a red tint in the Senate with the 2018 maps.