Kamala Harris 2020 campaign megathread

[Hindsight was 2020]

This thread is peak Atlas. The woman who broke Bernie’s announcement day donation record and gave a kick off speech to a crowd of 25k is being declared unelectable because some rose avatar twitter accounts and because Atlas resident socialist community hates her

[Kleine Scheiße]

If she gets the nomination she will come closer than Hillary in the electoral college, while still losing. She will probably win the popular vote.

Her campaign will inspire a generation of fantastic women of color to run for and win public office, but she won't be one of them. Not in 2020, at least. I will gladly vote for her in the general but I don't think at this time that I can vote for her in the primary. There are situations where I could see it happening, but that heavily depends on her campaign.

You have her losing and the campaign hasn't even started. Give me a break.

Would you like me to run through the list of the other 10+ Democratic candidates/potential candidates who would also likely lose?

[The Free North]

This years Hillary for sure, she certainly comes from the same vein of contrived, fake politics. Bernie supporters are (and already have) going to tear into her.

[DrScholl]

If she gets the nomination she will come closer than Hillary in the electoral college, while still losing. She will probably win the popular vote.

Her campaign will inspire a generation of fantastic women of color to run for and win public office, but she won't be one of them. Not in 2020, at least. I will gladly vote for her in the general but I don't think at this time that I can vote for her in the primary. There are situations where I could see it happening, but that heavily depends on her campaign.

You have her losing and the campaign hasn't even started. Give me a break.

Would you like me to run through the list of the other 10+ Democratic candidates/potential candidates who would also likely lose?

No, that's not necessary and I was not asking you to do that. Thanks.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Kamala Harris: *Breathes*

Atlas:

This years Hillary for sure, she certainly comes from the same vein of contrived, fake politics. Bernie supporters are (and already have) going to tear into her.

[Suburbia]

The speech has concluded. I swear to God this woman is going to win it all.

If she does, then we're gonna have another four years of Donald Trump.  Fortunately, I doubt she'll be the nominee.  Of course, it wouldn't be the first time Democrats blew a presidential election against Donald Trump by nominating a horrible candidate.   

Even worse: She'll win the presidency, won't live up to her promises, polarization will get worse, and a more competent Republican than Trump will win the WH.

This. It is 50/50 at this point. If she wins, polarization gets worse, a Republican wins in 2024 or 2028 or 2032 despite "demographics are destiny".

[Comrade Funk]

First Kamala's 20,000+ crowd didn't count because it was too white and now it doesn't count because it's in Oakland. Yet the same people went nuts when Ojeda announced in front of 10 people in a cafeteria.

[DrScholl]

Anyway, Harris being viciously attacked by Bernie bros just shows how stupid was her decision to support Sanders's single payer bill in hope of being spared this treatment.
She should've known that these cultists only care for their God Emperor King and will not hesitate to smear and slander every other Democratic candidate even if their positions are identical with Saint Bernie's.

It isn't even about the issues anymore, they just have an unhealthy obsession with him. I've seen weird fan fiction and creepy drawings that have nothing to do with politics. It almost comes off as stalker fan like.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

The speech has concluded. I swear to God this woman is going to win it all.

If she does, then we're gonna have another four years of Donald Trump.  Fortunately, I doubt she'll be the nominee.  Of course, it wouldn't be the first time Democrats blew a presidential election against Donald Trump by nominating a horrible candidate.   

Even worse: She'll win the presidency, won't live up to her promises, polarization will get worse, and a more competent Republican than Trump will win the WH.

This. It is 50/50 at this point. If she wins, polarization gets worse, a Republican wins in 2024 or 2028 or 2032 despite "demographics are destiny".

Now we're already writing off President Harris's reelection chances? Jesus, you people are insufferable.

[DrScholl]

This years Hillary for sure, she certainly comes from the same vein of contrived, fake politics. Bernie supporters are (and already have) going to tear into her.

There is no similarity between her and Hillary Clinton, none whatsoever.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

First Kamala's 20,000+ crowd didn't count because it was too white and now it doesn't count because it's in Oakland. Yet the same people went nuts when Ojeda announced in front of 10 people in a cafeteria.

Ojeda's running?  Why?

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

People are saying 24K in attendance. Barack Obama's kickoff speech in 2007 had 15K.

Not really an equal comparison, in that Obama's was in Springfield, which has a much lower population than the Bay Area. If Obama had his kickoff speech in Chicago he very likely could have gotten a bigger crowd.

[Possiblymaybe]

Kamala Harris has a lot of problems. She isn't really that progressive, she already seems to have lost a lot of black youth from what I'm seeing. Democrats need to juice turnout and she's not the one to do o IMO. This is not the candidate Democrats need if they want to win. She doesn't have any natural base. She also seems like she would repel Midwest voters.
 
 I think if she gets black female support she could win the primary but her candidacy seems to be arranged by wealthy donors more than having any kind of grassroots momentum.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=312294.0

How could I forget Harris' popularity in the crucial swing state of Oakland.

Ok let’s compare her to Hillary then, despite a much bigger name recognition Hillary had a sh**t launch crowd in NY and her rallies were generally reliant on big pop stars performing in order to draw a really big crowd. When she went solo I think her highest attended rally was around 10000.. Recently Iowa dems noted that Kamala drew a far larger crowd than Hillary. Even Obamas launch crowd was smaller ( 17 000) although he later drew huge crowds of course.   
Only Bernie will beat her launch crowd imo when he launches and maybe Beto if he runs.

[Thatkat04]

So people are attacking Kamala because she may have dated the mayor of San Fransico 20 years ago?

Honestly, if that's the best they can do I might just end up supporting her.

[Progressive Pessimist]

First Kamala's 20,000+ crowd didn't count because it was too white and now it doesn't count because it's in Oakland. Yet the same people went nuts when Ojeda announced in front of 10 people in a cafeteria.

So people are attacking Kamala because she may have dated the mayor of San Fransico 20 years ago?

Honestly, if that's the best they can do I might just end up supporting her.

Yeah and let's not forget that meanwhile she'll run in the general election against a notorious adulterer and confessed sexual assaulter.

[Cold War Liberal]

The speech has concluded. I swear to God this woman is going to win it all.

If she does, then we're gonna have another four years of Donald Trump.  Fortunately, I doubt she'll be the nominee.  Of course, it wouldn't be the first time Democrats blew a presidential election against Donald Trump by nominating a horrible candidate.   

Even worse: She'll win the presidency, won't live up to her promises, polarization will get worse, and a more competent Republican than Trump will win the WH.

This. It is 50/50 at this point. If she wins, polarization gets worse, a Republican wins in 2024 or 2028 or 2032 despite "demographics are destiny".

Your argument against Harris is that a republican will be elected at some point in the future?

[GP270watch]

I'm not a Bernie supporter. I'd vote for him over Trump but that's about it.

My problem with Harris has to do with talking to people who are infrequent voters, who have to be convinced or motivated to vote even in a Presidential election cycle. I've already heard from many young Black people that Harris "isn't really black" but they're trying to pander for votes because she's a woman of color and her father's Jamaican ancestry. One of the key reason Democrats lost was that there was a lack of turnout with Black youth versus Obama. They want somebody real and authentic to address their issues, not another "black face", or somebody who's less racist than the Republican. With a lot of young people, that's not going to get it done anymore. Democrats need to be wary of this and Harris doesn't help, in some ways she hurts. Also I've been in a room with a bunch of middle aged white men when she was doing her questioning of Kavanaugh, she irritated them in a way that was very visceral and immediate. While that's on them, middle aged white guys tend to vote.

[John Dule]

A few of my friends went to her campaign kickoff in Oakland. And they weren't even paid to do it!

[Hindsight was 2020]

Watching the town hall Kamala carries herself a lot better then Hillary. Any accusation she unelectable is foolish

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Watching the town hall Kamala carries herself a lot better then Hillary. Any accusation she unelectable is foolish

She comes off as incredibly presidential

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

My dad is strongly considering picking her in the primary, she is toward the bottom for me.

[Tintrlvr]

I'm not a Bernie supporter. I'd vote for him over Trump but that's about it.

My problem with Harris has to do with talking to people who are infrequent voters, who have to be convinced or motivated to vote even in a Presidential election cycle. I've already heard from many young Black people that Harris "isn't really black" but they're trying to pander for votes because she's a woman of color and her father's Jamaican ancestry. One of the key reason Democrats lost was that there was a lack of turnout with Black youth versus Obama. They want somebody real and authentic to address their issues, not another "black face", or somebody who's less racist than the Republican. With a lot of young people, that's not going to get it done anymore. Democrats need to be wary of this and Harris doesn't help, in some ways she hurts. Also I've been in a room with a bunch of middle aged white men when she was doing her questioning of Kavanaugh, she irritated them in a way that was very visceral and immediate. While that's on them, middle aged white guys tend to vote.

What a ridiculous concern troll. If we're going to have this debate, Obama was way, way less "really black" than Harris is. Obama was raised by his white mother in Indonesia, Kansas and Hawaii with basically zero black people around, never attended a black church until he was an adult, barely even knew his African (not descended from slaves) father and went to an Ivy League college. By contrast, Harris grew up with her Jamaican-American (descended from slaves) father for much of her childhood, attended a predominantly black church (including singing in the choir), lived in a mixed-race neighborhood with a significant black population in Berkeley as a child and went to the preeminent historically black college, Howard, where she was part of the largest black sorority in the country.

[Beet]

I'm not a Bernie supporter. I'd vote for him over Trump but that's about it.

My problem with Harris has to do with talking to people who are infrequent voters, who have to be convinced or motivated to vote even in a Presidential election cycle. I've already heard from many young Black people that Harris "isn't really black" but they're trying to pander for votes because she's a woman of color and her father's Jamaican ancestry. One of the key reason Democrats lost was that there was a lack of turnout with Black youth versus Obama. They want somebody real and authentic to address their issues, not another "black face", or somebody who's less racist than the Republican. With a lot of young people, that's not going to get it done anymore. Democrats need to be wary of this and Harris doesn't help, in some ways she hurts. Also I've been in a room with a bunch of middle aged white men when she was doing her questioning of Kavanaugh, she irritated them in a way that was very visceral and immediate. While that's on them, middle aged white guys tend to vote.

What a ridiculous concern troll. If we're going to have this debate, Obama was way, way less "really black" than Harris is. Obama was raised by his white mother in Indonesia, Kansas and Hawaii with basically zero black people around, never attended a black church until he was an adult, barely even knew his African (not descended from slaves) father and went to an Ivy League college. By contrast, Harris grew up with her Jamaican-American (descended from slaves) father for much of her childhood, attended a predominantly black church (including singing in the choir), lived in a mixed-race neighborhood with a significant black population in Berkeley as a child and went to the preeminent historically black college, Howard, where she was part of the largest black sorority in the country.

I always thought Michelle is what "made" Obama "black." When I first seriously thought of Obama being mixed race, I had a moment of questioning which side he identifies with more, but when I saw his wife all questions were settled.

[Rookie Yinzer]

She is shining in this town hall. Eased a few of my fears on her record. Feel very comfortable with her in my top tier.

[Zaybay]

https://twitter.com/WillisJermane/status/1090065670182785025

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