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« Reply #600 on: March 11, 2019, 07:51:43 PM »

From what I heard about a focus group that discussed potential liabilities of each candidate, the attacks about Harris' record as AG didn't even register with the group. With that said, attacking other candidates is not going to get Sanders the nomination.

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I know what hes talking about some dude on twitter who is a #proudneolb and is plotting hillarys return was tweeting something about a focus group he was supposedly involved in no evidence proving the thing even happened
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« Reply #601 on: March 11, 2019, 07:53:28 PM »

From what I heard about a focus group that discussed potential liabilities of each candidate, the attacks about Harris' record as AG didn't even register with the group. With that said, attacking other candidates is not going to get Sanders the nomination.

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It's on Twitter. But I'm probably lying to destroy Bernie because I'm an evil psycho path who doesn't realize that I should vote for him and am unworthy of his love /sarc
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« Reply #602 on: March 11, 2019, 07:57:48 PM »

Read the thread https://twitter.com/dannybarefoot/status/1102988677557510144
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« Reply #603 on: March 11, 2019, 08:15:30 PM »



Ugh. Kamala has to come up with a way to cut Biden off at the knees before South Carolina without making herself look hostile and desperate.
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« Reply #604 on: March 11, 2019, 08:19:57 PM »



Ugh. Kamala has to come up with a way to cut Biden off at the knees before South Carolina without making herself look hostile and desperate.

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about these focus groups. They don't mean anything.
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« Reply #605 on: March 11, 2019, 08:27:51 PM »
« Edited: March 11, 2019, 08:31:18 PM by SCNCmod »

Kamala needs to be willing to take some stands that don't necessarily jive 100% with the "most progressive wing" of the party. (as she has obviously not always been a far left progressive pureist).  B/c one thing that is a potential weakness for Kamala- is she seems a bit oppornistic in some of the positions she takes on the campaign trail.  No candidate is a perfect fit for the progressive wing of the party- and anyone who tries too hard to be such a perfect fit... looses the impression of Authenticity among voters.  And ultimately, it seems the surge type candidates in early states like Iowa (which the non Biden/Bernie candidates need to be)... seems to always be a candidate that voters find extremely authentic in their views/positions.  

BTW-this is also an issue with/for Gillibrand IMO.
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« Reply #606 on: March 11, 2019, 08:49:58 PM »

Kamala needs to be willing to take some stands that don't necessarily jive 100% with the "most progressive wing" of the party. (as she has obviously not always been a far left progressive pureist).  B/c one thing that is a potential weakness for Kamala- is she seems a bit oppornistic in some of the positions she takes on the campaign trail.  No candidate is a perfect fit for the progressive wing of the party- and anyone who tries too hard to be such a perfect fit... looses the impression of Authenticity among voters.  And ultimately, it seems the surge type candidates in early states like Iowa (which the non Biden/Bernie candidates need to be)... seems to always be a candidate that voters find extremely authentic in their views/positions.  

BTW-this is also an issue with/for Gillibrand IMO.

Same with Booker, but worse.
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« Reply #607 on: March 11, 2019, 09:20:01 PM »

Kamala needs to be willing to take some stands that don't necessarily jive 100% with the "most progressive wing" of the party. (as she has obviously not always been a far left progressive pureist).  B/c one thing that is a potential weakness for Kamala- is she seems a bit oppornistic in some of the positions she takes on the campaign trail.  No candidate is a perfect fit for the progressive wing of the party- and anyone who tries too hard to be such a perfect fit... looses the impression of Authenticity among voters.  And ultimately, it seems the surge type candidates in early states like Iowa (which the non Biden/Bernie candidates need to be)... seems to always be a candidate that voters find extremely authentic in their views/positions.  

BTW-this is also an issue with/for Gillibrand IMO.

Same with Booker, but worse.

For some reason Booker is covered less by media so far- so it hasn't been quite as noticeable. And in the end, I don't think Booker has a real chance at the nomination (granted I mentioned Gillibrand who also has no chance).  I think its between Sanders, Biden, Kamala, and Beto (I suppose I would give Klobuchar a very slight outside shot).  And I really think it will end up  coming down to Sanders, Kamala & Beto.  I think Biden will either end up not getting in... or his numbers will slowly decline in the lead-up to Iowa- leading to a disappointing finish in Iowa.  (I think there is also the potential that Biden will see what kind of traction Beto gains during his rollout.  If Beto gains momentum over the next several weeks, Biden may think twice... in not, Biden certainly jumps in).
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« Reply #608 on: March 11, 2019, 09:22:08 PM »


Makes sense. The "controversy" over her AG record is vastly overblown by the Bernie bros of Twitter (and Atlas) and I'm not surprised people don't really care about it.
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« Reply #609 on: March 12, 2019, 08:16:26 AM »

You’re grasping at straws here. She had a campaign launch attended by 22K people, she’s been packing town halls, and she doesn’t manage to fill an event she didn’t headline.

Getting a good crowd on your home turf isn't exactly impressive - especially when the bulk of the establishment is lining up behind you. I'd certainly hope any viable presidential contender would be able to draw a crowd in their own city/major metro area; otherwise what's the point? After that one event, since when has she drawn respectable crowd sizes? Maybe the reason she's having "town halls" is to obscure the reality of the situation. No real excuse for arguably the second best-funded candidate at the moment if enthusiasm isn't a factor. Unless...



When you're half-filling SBC-sized luncheon rooms in a state where a disproportionate share of your likely coalition resides, in a state where you're the only game in town at the moment and in the state where your path to the nomination likely begins/ends, it's not good. There's no other way to spin it. Wait until Biden jumps in: he'll get 1-5k crowds in SC with 24 hours notice, whether his campaign organizes the event or not.

Wise words, Griff.  These neolibs need a good dose of reality, sometimes.  Kamala is due for a good thrashing by the progressives at this rate.

Kamala Harris is the true progressive candidate. That's why I'm backing her campaign, wished the neoliberal smear can be dropped.

Yea I know, guise soooooo unfair!  Why should a candidate that met with the Clinton donors in the Hamptons immediately after the 2016 election, grovel to Wall St. for campaign contributions, hire major Clinton 2016 staffers, and throw donor class dinners at $1000 a plate get slapped with the neoliberal label?  Oh em gee soooooo mad!  My irl BFFs in the Party told me she’s just the best so how bout ya just shut ya faces!
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« Reply #610 on: March 12, 2019, 08:49:38 AM »

Harris will probably end up in third place when it comes to delegates, assuming Biden does run.
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« Reply #611 on: March 12, 2019, 12:54:29 PM »

Harris will probably end up in third place when it comes to delegates, assuming Biden does run.

I expect Biden to implode and his support gravitate to her. I think a MeToo scandal will force him out of the race before Iowa.
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« Reply #612 on: March 12, 2019, 04:21:20 PM »

Harris will probably end up in third place when it comes to delegates, assuming Biden does run.

I expect Biden to implode and his support gravitate to her.
Agreed. If he even joins, which I am still sceptical about.
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« Reply #613 on: March 12, 2019, 07:30:53 PM »

Harris will probably end up in third place when it comes to delegates, assuming Biden does run.

I expect Biden to implode and his support gravitate to her. I think a MeToo scandal will force him out of the race before Iowa.

I agree that Biden may very likely implode (or at least his number dwindle rather than grow)... however I don't really see his supporter going to Kamala.
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« Reply #614 on: March 12, 2019, 07:38:30 PM »

Does Abrams sudden interest indicate that some politicos think that Kamala's campaign and numbers are weaker than expected?  And I'm not saying this is the case... I'm genuinely wondering is this may be the case?

(granted although I actually think Abrams is a better politician & comes across as more authentic than Kamala & connects with voters better than Kamala... but having not yet been elected to (Senate/Congress/Governor/Cabinet/Big City Mayor) - her path in 2020 is that of Senator... which I think she can win)
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« Reply #615 on: March 13, 2019, 07:00:12 PM »


Stupid argument. Hawaii is the least white state in the country and has plenty of non-black ethnic groups, including a ton more Pacific Islanders than any other state.
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« Reply #616 on: March 13, 2019, 07:35:03 PM »

Does Abrams sudden interest indicate that some politicos think that Kamala's campaign and numbers are weaker than expected?  And I'm not saying this is the case... I'm genuinely wondering is this may be the case?

(granted although I actually think Abrams is a better politician & comes across as more authentic than Kamala & connects with voters better than Kamala... but having not yet been elected to (Senate/Congress/Governor/Cabinet/Big City Mayor) - her path in 2020 is that of Senator... which I think she can win)

Well, with Messam running and Gillum possibly running too, she might as well at this rate. I'd prefer that she runs for the Senate though and not let her ambition get the better of her.
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« Reply #617 on: March 13, 2019, 11:46:15 PM »

Does Abrams sudden interest indicate that some politicos think that Kamala's campaign and numbers are weaker than expected?  And I'm not saying this is the case... I'm genuinely wondering is this may be the case?

(granted although I actually think Abrams is a better politician & comes across as more authentic than Kamala & connects with voters better than Kamala... but having not yet been elected to (Senate/Congress/Governor/Cabinet/Big City Mayor) - her path in 2020 is that of Senator... which I think she can win)

Well, with Messam running and Gillum possibly running too, she might as well at this rate. I'd prefer that she runs for the Senate though and not let her ambition get the better of her.

Senate definitely makes more sense.  The only reason for her to run for President would possibly be for a potential VP spot.  Or I guess in some way to raise her profile  for a 2022 run for Governor... which she would still likely be a favorite for even if she lost the Senate race.

So logically a potential VP spot would be the only reason.... since the polls indicate that a White Male is the odds on favorite to be the nominee (making a non-white female the odds on favorite to be chosen as VP).
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« Reply #618 on: March 14, 2019, 02:12:38 AM »

Does Abrams sudden interest indicate that some politicos think that Kamala's campaign and numbers are weaker than expected?  And I'm not saying this is the case... I'm genuinely wondering is this may be the case?

(granted although I actually think Abrams is a better politician & comes across as more authentic than Kamala & connects with voters better than Kamala... but having not yet been elected to (Senate/Congress/Governor/Cabinet/Big City Mayor) - her path in 2020 is that of Senator... which I think she can win)

Well, with Messam running and Gillum possibly running too, she might as well at this rate. I'd prefer that she runs for the Senate though and not let her ambition get the better of her.

Biden teases Dems about a Senate and doesnt follow through
 Abrams or Gillum arent gonna get very far as long as Harris is in the race. They bothlost gubernatorial bifs.
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« Reply #619 on: March 15, 2019, 09:24:16 AM »

Does Abrams sudden interest indicate that some politicos think that Kamala's campaign and numbers are weaker than expected?  And I'm not saying this is the case... I'm genuinely wondering is this may be the case?

(granted although I actually think Abrams is a better politician & comes across as more authentic than Kamala & connects with voters better than Kamala... but having not yet been elected to (Senate/Congress/Governor/Cabinet/Big City Mayor) - her path in 2020 is that of Senator... which I think she can win)
I’d say it’s got more to do with Beto entering. I mean if he can why not Abrams?  Arguably as talented and a far better legislator.
Harris campaign seems to be in good shape so far. Shes pretty much where people excepted, in top tier but not the front runner at this point. The enthusiasm around her campaign is only rivalled by enthusiasm around Bernie and now Beto. 
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« Reply #620 on: March 15, 2019, 11:42:54 PM »

Well, it seems the Bernie bro onslaught has moved onto Beto. Gives Kamala some breathing room.
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« Reply #621 on: March 16, 2019, 01:16:16 AM »

Well, it seems the Bernie bro onslaught has moved onto Beto. Gives Kamala some breathing room.

No kidding ... I haven't been following too closely thus far- I didn't realize Kamala had to experience the onslaught as well.  Wonder what they will be like with Biden (who they actually seem to fear more than Kamala & Beto).
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« Reply #622 on: March 16, 2019, 06:38:49 AM »

Well, it seems the Bernie bro onslaught has moved onto Beto. Gives Kamala some breathing room.
It does.
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« Reply #623 on: March 16, 2019, 10:53:17 AM »

Well, it seems the Bernie bro onslaught has moved onto Beto. Gives Kamala some breathing room.

Don't think anyone's too afraid of Kamala. She doesn't appear to be in a good position at all to win the primaries... Watched a video of her talking in South Carolina and it doesn't even seem like she believes what she's saying. Would be kinda surprised if she came even in third in the primaries.
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« Reply #624 on: March 16, 2019, 11:32:38 AM »

Well, it seems the Bernie bro onslaught has moved onto Beto. Gives Kamala some breathing room.

Don't think anyone's too afraid of Kamala. She doesn't appear to be in a good position at all to win the primaries... Watched a video of her talking in South Carolina and it doesn't even seem like she believes what she's saying. Would be kinda surprised if she came even in third in the primaries.

Booker needs to do a 180. I get lot of Romney vibes when he speaks. Something seems fake. He needs to speak from his heart more. He needs to learn how to be hinself,rather than trying to be everything to everyone.
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