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« on: January 03, 2019, 10:07:51 AM »

I don't see Kevin McCarthy or even Steve Scalise as future House Speakers. Scalise should have retired after his shooting. Who is the future House GOP leader?
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2019, 06:40:15 PM »

Scalise. Definitely Scalise.

I don't see Kevin McCarthy or even Steve Scalise as future House Speakers. Scalise should have retired after his shooting. Who is the future House GOP leader?

Ummm no if the man wants to do his job & is able to do his job, then how about letting him do the job he wants & is able to do & get on w/ his life.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2019, 09:58:53 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2019, 05:12:20 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2019, 05:22:12 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered
the republicans are always claiming the democrats are radical crazy antifa leftists when they would considered center to center right in any other country. Of course, you and the GOP don't get up madabout the mail bomber or hate attacks against minorities.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2019, 05:53:47 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered

Yeah the guy only spoke at a white nationalist convention what’s all the fuss
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2019, 05:54:24 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered
the republicans are always claiming the democrats are radical crazy antifa leftists when they would considered center to center right in any other country. Of course, you and the GOP don't get up madabout the mail bomber or hate attacks against minorities.

Nice whataboutism. Quit deflecting and acknowledge that your team can do horrendous things too.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2019, 05:59:13 PM »
« Edited: January 04, 2019, 06:28:55 PM by Lou Barletta's Teeth »

I could definitely see a Scalise-Cheney battle for the spot, with the former winning comfortably. But, this is if the latter doesn't join the Senate.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2019, 05:59:17 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered

Yeah the guy only spoke at a white nationalist convention what’s all the fuss

Unless he spoke at AmRen or something with Richard Spencer also there it most likely wasn't white nationalist and the left's continual usage of that term to smear anyone they don't like or disagree with is dulling and desensitizing people to the actual danger of actual white supremacy.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2019, 06:18:25 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered
the republicans are always claiming the democrats are radical crazy antifa leftists when they would considered center to center right in any other country. Of course, you and the GOP don't get up madabout the mail bomber or hate attacks against minorities.

Nice whataboutism. Quit deflecting and acknowledge that your team can do horrendous things too.
There are vastly more violent attacks from the extreme right than the extreme left. This was an outlier.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 09:58:27 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered
the republicans are always claiming the democrats are radical crazy antifa leftists when they would considered center to center right in any other country. Of course, you and the GOP don't get up madabout the mail bomber or hate attacks against minorities.

Nice whataboutism. Quit deflecting and acknowledge that your team can do horrendous things too.
There are vastly more violent attacks from the extreme right than the extreme left. This was an outlier.

pathetic left stays hypocritical
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 11:00:19 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered

Oh please save it, the man is David Duke without the baggage, and it’s ridiculous to associate this kind of talk with violently attacking somebody.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 11:09:48 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered
the republicans are always claiming the democrats are radical crazy antifa leftists when they would considered center to center right in any other country. Of course, you and the GOP don't get up madabout the mail bomber or hate attacks against minorities.

Nice whataboutism. Quit deflecting and acknowledge that your team can do horrendous things too.
There are vastly more violent attacks from the extreme right than the extreme left. This was an outlier.

pathetic left stays hypocritical
Let me make this clear. It is completely evil for someone to try to murder someone because you disagree with them, right wing or left wing. But to call it hyperbole and hysteria to say this guy is alt right or white nationalist and blame that for violence is hysteria and hyperbole within itself. I do not believe Scalise is currently a white supremacist but it is still possible  based on him attending a white power rally and a questionable statement after Charlottesville.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2019, 12:25:13 AM »

Steve Scalise, Liz Cheney (if she remains in the House), Cathy McMorris Rodgers and Ann Wagner come to mind for me specifically, though I think Cheney would have the inside track if she doesn't run for higher office (either Senator or Governor), with Scalise being the second choice.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2019, 12:30:01 AM »

Steve Scalise, Liz Cheney (if she remains in the House), Cathy McMorris Rodgers and Ann Wagner come to mind for me specifically, though I think Cheney would have the inside track if she doesn't run for higher office (either Senator or Governor), with Scalise being the second choice.

McMorris and Wagner actually have to run campaigns in order to win their districts in environments that are unsavory for the GOP, that is distracting. Scalise and Cheney don’t have that distraction.
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2019, 01:05:08 AM »

Scalise, Cheney, Doug Collins
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2019, 12:54:51 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered
he literally described himself as david duke without the baggage my man
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2019, 04:29:07 PM »

Dems are favored to keep House in Census reappointment due to the key gov pickups in the Sun-belt stack. McCathy will probably stay on as Minority Leader
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2019, 11:11:15 PM »

Someone who speaks fluent German, for translating the party platform from its original inspiration.
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2019, 02:56:11 PM »

Scalise and Cheney.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2019, 06:30:44 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered

A. The guy speaks at white nationalist events. What I wrote is factual.
B. Normalizing racism and alt-right mythology gets us Charlottesville and innocents beaten up or run down by cars.
C. He was not singled out by the shooter for his record; the guy was aiming for Republicans without discrimination.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2019, 06:33:47 PM »


He's the most natural fit for the alt-right/white-nationalist theme the Republican Party is now taking under Trump. McCarthy and some of the other old guard, bless them, come from a different time.

Hysterical, borderline defamatory hyperbole like this is part of the reason he was almost murdered

Yeah the guy only spoke at a white nationalist convention what’s all the fuss

Unless he spoke at AmRen or something with Richard Spencer also there it most likely wasn't white nationalist and the left's continual usage of that term to smear anyone they don't like or disagree with is dulling and desensitizing people to the actual danger of actual white supremacy.

I’m not describing “anyone I don’t like”. On the contrary! Scalise stands out among the Republican caucus for his comfort with white nationalism, along with a tiny number of other stalwarts like Steve King. That was my point and why I think he’d be a better fit for the base and for the intellectual trends now dominating in the GOP.
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2019, 06:36:36 PM »

People mentioning Wagner, Cheney, or McMorris Rodgers—if you think the Republicans would ever choose one of their few women over a man, you are drawing different conclusions from the last several years than I have. Republicans will find a few spots for women when it’s necessary, but rarely will they yield a valuable position that a man can fill instead.

Look at what happened to McMorris Rodgers when she wanted to be Secretary of the Interior but lost out to a much less qualified Zinke who just seemed like more of a leader.
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2019, 07:18:43 PM »

People mentioning Wagner, Cheney, or McMorris Rodgers—if you think the Republicans would ever choose one of their few women over a man, you are drawing different conclusions from the last several years than I have. Republicans will find a few spots for women when it’s necessary, but rarely will they yield a valuable position that a man can fill instead.

Look at what happened to McMorris Rodgers when she wanted to be Secretary of the Interior but lost out to a much less qualified Zinke who just seemed like more of a leader.

I'll concede to you Wagner/McMorris Rodgers (neither of whom might win reelection in 2020), but Cheney easily could unite old guard Republicans, and parts of the Freedom Caucus/Republican Study Committee to become House GOP leader.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2019, 11:10:47 PM »

I don't know a whole lot about him, but what about Tom Emmer? He is running the NRCC this cycle. If Republicans pick up a good number of seats (which is certainly possible, given how well dems did in 2018), he could be credited for that.
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