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« Reply #650 on: October 05, 2020, 04:20:05 PM »

Can this really be called a sex scandal anymore than Carter's "lust in my heart"?

Yes, because this is cheating, whereas what Carter did was not cheating.

How is this cheating if there was no sex involved?



If my wife was sexting other men, I (and most other people) would consider it cheating.

We aren't in the Dark Ages and we don't have a thought police. If some tame sexting is considered cheating then what's next? Will seeing a beautiful woman on the street and having sexual thoughts about her be considered cheating too?

I don't think it's important regarding the election or his Senate career, but what Cunningham did is obviously cheating. What are you talking about?
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« Reply #651 on: October 05, 2020, 05:23:42 PM »

This thread has gone mighty quiet!  Wonder if it is that quiet at the Cunningham’s.  I’m sure the Mrs is thinking she is married to a strong leader.  Maybe a gestating Kennedy or Clinton.
Maybe even an FDR.  Three cheers.

Well he was quiet in public.  But he took strong action.  He canceled a Town Hall.

Wonder what comes next.
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« Reply #652 on: October 05, 2020, 05:57:19 PM »

This thread has gone mighty quiet!  Wonder if it is that quiet at the Cunningham’s.  I’m sure the Mrs is thinking she is married to a strong leader.  Maybe a gestating Kennedy or Clinton.
Maybe even an FDR.  Three cheers.

Well he was quiet in public.  But he took strong action.  He canceled a Town Hall.

Wonder what comes next.

It's never been louder...
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« Reply #653 on: October 05, 2020, 05:58:50 PM »

This thread has gone mighty quiet!  Wonder if it is that quiet at the Cunningham’s.  I’m sure the Mrs is thinking she is married to a strong leader.  Maybe a gestating Kennedy or Clinton.
Maybe even an FDR.  Three cheers.

Well he was quiet in public.  But he took strong action.  He canceled a Town Hall.

Wonder what comes next.

All this rambling nonsense from a Trump supporter.

Self-Awareness: 0
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« Reply #654 on: October 05, 2020, 07:13:15 PM »

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« Reply #655 on: October 05, 2020, 08:42:19 PM »



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« Reply #656 on: October 05, 2020, 10:55:35 PM »

I'm reading some comments online saying the woman he sexted is the wife of an enlisted (sergeant) vet and since Cunningham is an officer (lieutenant colonel) this could be a particular problem for Cunningham under military discipline/rules. But I have no idea. I assume Cunningham is very very very lucky this man appears to be a vet as opposed to someone currently enlisted.

Does anyone have any insight on this angle?
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« Reply #657 on: October 05, 2020, 11:32:03 PM »

I'm reading some comments online saying the woman he sexted is the wife of an enlisted (sergeant) vet and since Cunningham is an officer (lieutenant colonel) this could be a particular problem for Cunningham under military discipline/rules. But I have no idea. I assume Cunningham is very very very lucky this man appears to be a vet as opposed to someone currently enlisted.

Does anyone have any insight on this angle?

The military isn’t going to bother getting involved
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« Reply #658 on: October 06, 2020, 04:09:58 PM »

I'm reading some comments online saying the woman he sexted is the wife of an enlisted (sergeant) vet and since Cunningham is an officer (lieutenant colonel) this could be a particular problem for Cunningham under military discipline/rules. But I have no idea. I assume Cunningham is very very very lucky this man appears to be a vet as opposed to someone currently enlisted.

Does anyone have any insight on this angle?

Adultery is punishable under the UCMJ, and he could easily lose his commission over it. The fact that the woman is the wife of a veteran makes no difference, apart from the highly discretionary nature of punishments in the military. Meaning, his commander might let it go if it was with a civilian, but not with a fellow servicemember's wife.

That said, I find it highly unlikely that this qualifies as adultery under the UCMJ, though it's been a while since I've read it. My guess is that the voters punish him, but the military does not.

Thanks for the explanation -- assuming you know what you are taking about. ;-)

Some were claiming that because the husband was his subordinate in the military chain of command it might be particularly problematic.

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« Reply #659 on: October 06, 2020, 04:40:01 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2021, 04:37:53 PM by VXR »

New texts shared with WRAL suggest Cunningham had sexual relationship with womxn
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« Reply #660 on: October 06, 2020, 04:40:19 PM »

Todd spoke to AP. She says they had a relationship over several months, meeting in LA in March and being intimate at Cunningham's house in July. She talked about sending Tillis Cunningham's nudes. She regrets the affair.
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« Reply #661 on: October 06, 2020, 04:41:57 PM »

godfu##ing damn it horny ham go to horny jail you are screwing our chance at the majority this wouldnt change my vote but it could certainly change quite a few voters minds
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« Reply #662 on: October 06, 2020, 04:45:33 PM »

Damn it Cunningham!

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*I'm still a child so I don't fully understand this, but it sounds like Guzman Todd was more so the one who was sending the sexual texts the Cunningham. She literally said she was upset by how little attention Cunningham was giving her*

I'm glad that at this point we have a lot of back up races just in case one of the "core 4" fails, but this is making me a bit nervous nonetheless.
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« Reply #663 on: October 06, 2020, 04:49:42 PM »

Disappointing, but doesn't change the story that much imo. To be honest, after reading the article, it makes me more favorable of Cunningham. I understand that he hurt Guzman Todd but threatening to share intimate photos without his consent is scummy.
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« Reply #664 on: October 06, 2020, 04:50:40 PM »

Why him? Why not recruit Jeff Jackson or Josh Stein? I'm sure that with them chances to defeat Tillis would be far, far higher
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« Reply #665 on: October 06, 2020, 04:51:10 PM »

Cunningham needs to get it all out there right now. 100% of it and he might have a chance. Otherwise the drip-drip-drip is gonna kill him unless Biden can win by like 5 or more.
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« Reply #666 on: October 06, 2020, 04:54:11 PM »

And he dropped out of a virtual town hall event.

https://www.cbs17.com/news/your-local-election-hq/nc-senate-candidate-cal-cunningham-drops-out-of-virtual-town-hall-amid-sexting-scandal/
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« Reply #667 on: October 06, 2020, 04:56:49 PM »

Clearly this is going to drip-drip-drip all the way until election day. I expect more to surface, but if the next set of polls still show him ahead then I'd assume Cunningham is still favored.
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« Reply #668 on: October 06, 2020, 04:58:01 PM »

This is starting to look more and more like extortion.
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« Reply #669 on: October 06, 2020, 04:59:00 PM »

It sounds like this woman threatened revenge porn... which is a felony in both NC and CA.

These texts don't really confirm anything beyond what we already know.
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« Reply #670 on: October 06, 2020, 04:59:09 PM »

Wait why is everyone saying "goddamnit", wasn't it clear in the initial texts that they'd had sex? How does this change anything?
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« Reply #671 on: October 06, 2020, 05:00:28 PM »

Wait why is everyone saying "goddamnit", wasn't it clear in the initial texts that they'd had sex? How does this change anything?

To me it seems like a clear sign that this story will drip-drip and stick around until election day. Also, it seems like a tossup whether or not nude images of him get leaked based on the information in the article.
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« Reply #672 on: October 06, 2020, 05:00:52 PM »

So Cunningham acted indiscreetly at best and skeevy at worst, but his mistress is being a colossal pile of s**t. Like the others above me said, this is flat-out extortion and revenge porn.
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« Reply #673 on: October 06, 2020, 05:01:41 PM »

Wait why is everyone saying "goddamnit", wasn't it clear in the initial texts that they'd had sex? How does this change anything?

To me it seems like a clear sign that this story will drip-drip and stick around until election day. Also, it seems like a tossup whether or not nude images of him get leaked based on the information in the article.

If nude images get leaked the mistress will be prosecuted for revenge porn, which is a felony in North Carolina.

The law is clear on these matters.

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A person guilty of this offense:

(1) knowingly

(2) discloses an image of another person

(3) with the intent to

(a)  coerce, harass, intimidate, demean, humiliate, or cause financial loss to the depicted person, or

(b)  cause others to coerce, harass, intimidate, demean, humiliate, or cause financial loss to the depicted person, and

(4)  the depicted person is identifiable from the disclosed image or from information offered in connection with it,

(5)  the depicted person’s intimate parts are exposed or the depicted person is engaged in sexual conduct in the disclosed image,

(6)  the person discloses the image without the affirmative consent of the depicted person, and

(7)  the person discloses the image under circumstances such that he or she knew or should have known that the depicted person had a reasonable expectation of privacy.
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« Reply #674 on: October 06, 2020, 05:04:19 PM »

Wait why is everyone saying "goddamnit", wasn't it clear in the initial texts that they'd had sex? How does this change anything?

To me it seems like a clear sign that this story will drip-drip and stick around until election day. Also, it seems like a tossup whether or not nude images of him get leaked based on the information in the article.

If nude images get leaked the mistress will be prosecuted for revenge porn, which is a felony in North Carolina.

The law is clear on these matters.


They may not get leaked by her, if they exist, since the texts weren't received from her. But ultimately it wouldn't matter what happens to her. This story has the potential for "bombshell" developments every few days until election day and that uncertainty makes me uneasy about this race.
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