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« Reply #225 on: March 21, 2020, 01:43:18 AM »

Alaska has the lowest initial response rate so far (7.6%), but it was also the worst in 2010 - so no surprise.

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

Not surprising: The new online option is by far the most preferred so far.
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« Reply #226 on: March 21, 2020, 01:46:15 AM »

I would even say that the 2020 Census is off to a better start than the 2010 one.

14% have already submitted their forms and there's still one week to go until the comparable 16% initial response for 2010.

I would assume that by next Friday, about 25% will have responded - which would be 9% higher than at the same point 10 years ago.

Obviously, the trend has to continue in the coming months.
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« Reply #227 on: March 21, 2020, 02:08:54 AM »

The good thing:

So far, a ton of Americans are responding to the Census online, by mail or by phone.

The bad thing:

Coronavirus.

But the Census Bureau is adjusting to that threat.

From the AP:

https://apnews.com/a236220eeeef37cf76258d7a9f0dcaff
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« Reply #228 on: March 21, 2020, 07:21:09 AM »

The next update should come by 3pm Eastern.

Considering 5 million households are currently submitting their census forms each day, that would increase the percentage who respond by about 4% each day.

So, the update today should show roughly a 18-19% response.
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« Reply #229 on: March 21, 2020, 01:26:16 PM »

The Census Bureau will launch the response rate map today, which is updated daily (down to county, city, town and census tract level):

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

The map is now online.

14% of US households have already responded as of yesterday.

That is a very good start.

It was 16% in 2010, with a week headstart compared to now.

The map has just been updated with data submitted until yesterday.

More than 16% of US households have now responded.

That is already more than in 2010 - a week earlier.

Very good start.

People spending time at home right now might actually be good for Census „turnout“.

Nebraska continues to have the best response rate at 22%, while TX, NY, the Carolinas and GA are lagging.
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« Reply #230 on: March 21, 2020, 01:29:57 PM »

Did mine online today and agree with the comments that it was super easy.  I've done the ACS (American Community Survey) census before (the one that's used for employment and many other statistics) and it was much more extensive than the general one.
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« Reply #231 on: March 21, 2020, 01:37:07 PM »

Did mine online today and agree with the comments that it was super easy.  I've done the ACS (American Community Survey) census before (the one that's used for employment and many other statistics) and it was much more extensive than the general one.

The ACS is done annually and replaced the „long form“ of the old 10-year Census (after 2000). It is only completed by a small sample of the US population though.

That’s why the current 2020 Census only has a few basic questions anymore that can be answered in 5 minutes.

The more Americans fill it out online, by mail or by phone in the next 2 months - the fewer census takers will be needed to be deployed in this difficult environment.
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« Reply #232 on: March 21, 2020, 08:07:40 PM »

The Census Bureau will launch the response rate map today, which is updated daily (down to county, city, town and census tract level):

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

The map is now online.

14% of US households have already responded as of yesterday.

That is a very good start.

It was 16% in 2010, with a week headstart compared to now.

The map has just been updated with data submitted until yesterday.

More than 16% of US households have now responded.

That is already more than in 2010 - a week earlier.

Very good start.

People spending time at home right now might actually be good for Census „turnout“.

Nebraska continues to have the best response rate at 22%, while TX, NY, the Carolinas and GA are lagging.

The numbers are not comparable to 2010, though they may be at this point. In 2010, the participation rate was measured, while in 2020 it is the initial response rate.

Mail response may be difficult. I have drive to about a mile-and-a-half to find a mail box. In addition since they have to include an instruction book may increase the apparent complexity.

Presentation of one person at a time may also help response. The person completing the form fills out some basic information, including a list of household members.

Then the form is presented for each individual. Items included are name, age, sex, ethnicity (Hispanic or not), and race (White, Black, Asian, AIAN, NHOPI, and other). Instead of thinking about filling out 6 pages, you will already have done one and decided it was not too difficult.

In addition, the printed form is bilingual, which may be off-putting to some people.

2020 Census Printed Form (PDF)

German instructions (PDF)

Is there anything that would be confusing in translation?

How may responses will there be of German, Deutsch, Duitser, Allemand, hogy német, немец, or Němec?

It will be interesting to see what the response to the race questions are. White and Black are presented as check boxes, plus a fill-in-the blank.

It looks like the intent is to isolate MENA, since Egyptian and Lebanese are given as examples, and Iranian and Chaldean are given as extended examples. White is described in more ethnic terms: originating in Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

In addition, Haitian, Nigerian, etc. can indicate a distinction from African Americans. Previously, this distinction could only be made based on ACS Ancestry, and some African Americans would indicate African.

If a college has closed its dorms for the remainder of the semester, where do students live on April 1, 2020?
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« Reply #233 on: March 22, 2020, 01:01:06 AM »

The Census Bureau will launch the response rate map today, which is updated daily (down to county, city, town and census tract level):

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

The map is now online.

14% of US households have already responded as of yesterday.

That is a very good start.

It was 16% in 2010, with a week headstart compared to now.

The map has just been updated with data submitted until yesterday.

More than 16% of US households have now responded.

That is already more than in 2010 - a week earlier.

Very good start.

People spending time at home right now might actually be good for Census „turnout“.

Nebraska continues to have the best response rate at 22%, while TX, NY, the Carolinas and GA are lagging.

The numbers are not comparable to 2010, though they may be at this point. In 2010, the participation rate was measured, while in 2020 it is the initial response rate.

Mail response may be difficult. I have drive to about a mile-and-a-half to find a mail box. In addition since they have to include an instruction book may increase the apparent complexity.

Presentation of one person at a time may also help response. The person completing the form fills out some basic information, including a list of household members.

Then the form is presented for each individual. Items included are name, age, sex, ethnicity (Hispanic or not), and race (White, Black, Asian, AIAN, NHOPI, and other). Instead of thinking about filling out 6 pages, you will already have done one and decided it was not too difficult.

In addition, the printed form is bilingual, which may be off-putting to some people.

2020 Census Printed Form (PDF)

German instructions (PDF)

Is there anything that would be confusing in translation?

How may responses will there be of German, Deutsch, Duitser, Allemand, hogy német, немец, or Němec?

It will be interesting to see what the response to the race questions are. White and Black are presented as check boxes, plus a fill-in-the blank.

It looks like the intent is to isolate MENA, since Egyptian and Lebanese are given as examples, and Iranian and Chaldean are given as extended examples. White is described in more ethnic terms: originating in Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

In addition, Haitian, Nigerian, etc. can indicate a distinction from African Americans. Previously, this distinction could only be made based on ACS Ancestry, and some African Americans would indicate African.

If a college has closed its dorms for the remainder of the semester, where do students live on April 1, 2020?

Yeah, in 2010 the final participation rate was 76%.

The Census Bureau re-calculated the 2010 final response rate though to 66.5% - to make it comparable with 2020 numbers.

So, if the 2010 map started with 16% out of a total 76% then (with a week headstart !), yesterday’s 16.7% are still FAR ahead of 2010 levels.

2020 response is off to a very good start.

As for college kids not living in their dorms on April 1 (or now): I think their parents should count them as „living at home“.
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« Reply #234 on: March 22, 2020, 01:22:35 AM »

It’s weekend and more people are filling things out, so theoretically the response rate should jump above 20% with today’s and tomorrow’s updates.

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2020/response-rate-first-week.html

Even if people are not responding based on the 1st letter they got this week, the Census Bureau will send 5 (!) repeat letters in the coming weeks/months to remind them ...
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« Reply #235 on: March 22, 2020, 01:46:42 AM »

I did it a couple days ago.

What does everyone think of the questions?

I'm glad there were multiple racial/ethnic options. Was anything excluded that should not have been?

I hope in 2030 there is non-binary option for gender.
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« Reply #236 on: March 22, 2020, 01:55:09 AM »

I did it a couple days ago.

What does everyone think of the questions?

I'm glad there were multiple racial/ethnic options. Was anything excluded that should not have been?

I hope in 2030 there is non-binary option for gender.

Yeah, there should be a 3rd gender option IMO.

Did the form ask for gay marriage too, or was that skipped as well (can’t remember) ?

Besides, asking racial data seems a bit outdated in 2020 and they might have removed that - just like they did with religion.

Citizenship would have been interesting though.
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« Reply #237 on: March 22, 2020, 07:03:17 AM »

Angry Bernie sis:



Anyway, it shouldn’t be political, but the worst thing for Democrats and the young and the minorities would be not to participate. It would skew funding and electoral chances against them.
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« Reply #238 on: March 22, 2020, 07:56:07 AM »

Angry Bernie sis:



Anyway, it shouldn’t be political, but the worst thing for Democrats and the young and the minorities would be not to participate. It would skew funding and electoral chances against them.

Sounds like she should consider joining the Libertarian Party.
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« Reply #239 on: March 22, 2020, 10:03:43 AM »

Given that the census tells the federal government where to direct money, that tweet is quite literally baloney.

This stuff is too politicized.
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« Reply #240 on: March 22, 2020, 12:10:11 PM »

I did it a couple days ago.

What does everyone think of the questions?

I'm glad there were multiple racial/ethnic options. Was anything excluded that should not have been?

I hope in 2030 there is non-binary option for gender.

Yeah, there should be a 3rd gender option IMO.

Did the form ask for gay marriage too, or was that skipped as well (can’t remember) ?

Besides, asking racial data seems a bit outdated in 2020 and they might have removed that - just like they did with religion.

Citizenship would have been interesting though.

The question that is asked is the relationship of each person to Person 1, the person filling out the form:

How is this person related to Person 1? Mark ONE box.

Opposite-sex husband/wife/spouse
Opposite-sex unmarried partner
Same-sex husband/wife/spouse
Same-sex unmarried partner
Biological son or daughter
Adopted son or daughter
Stepson or stepdaughter
Brother or sister
Father or mother
Grandchild
Parent-in-law
Son-in-law or daughter-in-law
Other relative
Roommate or housemate
Foster child
Other nonrelative

Person 1 is the person paying the rent or who owns the house. If that person doesn't live there, any adult can fill out the form.

Once-upon-a-time, there was a designated head-of-household. An anecdote from the 1960 Census was that a man insisted that his wife was the head of the household. The census-taker finally convinced him that he was the head, and his wife was the neck. Whichever way the neck turned, the head followed.

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The US Census has never asked individuals their religious affiliation. At one time, there was a survey of religious congregations. In the 20th century this was done in years ending in '6'. Data was collected for 1946, but no money was appropriated to publish the results. After that private groups began making the survey.

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I was selected for a census test in 2016:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=233088.msg4992299#msg4992299]2016 Census Test

They were testing different ways to ask the question about ethnicity and race. In my case, they had added MENA, and treated ethnicity and race as non-orthogonal.

They took a fairly conservative approach, keeping the same racial categories. In my case, after you selected a race you got a set of check-boxes for sub-race, along with a fill-in with more options. But they can not duplicate that on paper. The blank is an addition for 2020.

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Race is needed for racial gerrymandering.

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They don't want "one adult citizen, one vote".
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« Reply #241 on: March 22, 2020, 12:20:56 PM »

Did mine online today and agree with the comments that it was super easy.  I've done the ACS (American Community Survey) census before (the one that's used for employment and many other statistics) and it was much more extensive than the general one.

The ACS is done annually and replaced the „long form“ of the old 10-year Census (after 2000). It is only completed by a small sample of the US population though.


The ACS uses a very large sample (between 1/6 and 1/8) of households, but this is spread out over a 5-year period (60-monthly subsamples).

People were less willing to fill out the long form (and the short form was included within it). People probably are even less willing to complete the ACS, but follow-up can be started sooner.
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« Reply #242 on: March 22, 2020, 02:16:10 PM »

Today's update (with data submitted until yesterday):

USA: 19.2% response rate (+2.5)

Top-5 states:

25.1% NE
24.3% IA
24.3% WI
23.5% KS
23.3% MN

Bottom-5 states:

14.5% WY
14.3% NM
13.9% MT
13.5% WV
10.3% AK

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html
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« Reply #243 on: March 22, 2020, 02:24:15 PM »

In the latest update, the population-rich states have different performances so far:

CA and FL residents are responding similarly to the US as a whole.

TX, NY, GA, NC and NJ are lagging behind the national response rate.

IL, PA, OH, MI and VA are outperforming the national rate.
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« Reply #244 on: March 22, 2020, 05:37:04 PM »

I did it a couple days ago.

What does everyone think of the questions?

I'm glad there were multiple racial/ethnic options. Was anything excluded that should not have been?

I hope in 2030 there is non-binary option for gender.

Call me an "SJW" all you want, but it really was a bit ponderous that they didn't even at least put an "other" option for the gender question.
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« Reply #245 on: March 23, 2020, 09:05:52 AM »

Found it a little too simple. I really was hoping that more statistical data would be collected on occupation and other matters of historical importance.
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« Reply #246 on: March 23, 2020, 09:11:43 AM »

My mother told me she's decided not to respond to the Census at all. Sigh.
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« Reply #247 on: March 23, 2020, 10:19:30 AM »

My mother told me she's decided not to respond to the Census at all. Sigh.

Why ?

Is she also one of the types who’s awaiting the census takers with her shotgun when they appear at her door in a few months ?
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« Reply #248 on: March 23, 2020, 10:25:08 AM »

My mother told me she's decided not to respond to the Census at all. Sigh.

Why ?

Is she also one of the types who’s awaiting the census takers with her shotgun when they appear at her door in a few months ?

Same reason she's not a registered voter: she's homeless and has given up on society.
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« Reply #249 on: March 23, 2020, 10:29:08 AM »

My mother told me she's decided not to respond to the Census at all. Sigh.

Why ?

Is she also one of the types who’s awaiting the census takers with her shotgun when they appear at her door in a few months ?

Same reason she's not a registered voter: she's homeless and has given up on society.

Sorry, that’s not good. I thought she’s a government-hostile Republican gun owner.

Tell her all the best from me.
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