Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Heebie Jeebie]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1275498116511383552

Oh god this is embarrassing. Please just pick Duckworth

what is embarrassing about it? it was a debate. what is she supposed to say? after 2008 and 2016, people need to stop taking tiffs in debates so seriously later on

The debate moment was fine. What's concerning us how she"s completely unprepared to respond to a predictable line if questioning.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1275498116511383552

Oh god this is embarrassing. Please just pick Duckworth

what is embarrassing about it? it was a debate. what is she supposed to say? after 2008 and 2016, people need to stop taking tiffs in debates so seriously later on

The debate moment was fine. What's concerning us how she"s completely unprepared to respond to a predictable line if questioning.

Not really. What else was she supposed to say? "I meant what I said and Joe Biden will not get my vote"?

People say disparaging stuff that they don't mean half the time in a primary. Also, I see people all the time insinuating that Kamala is basically the 21st century & non-white version of Bull Connor when she was a prosecutor.

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1275498116511383552

Oh god this is embarrassing. Please just pick Duckworth

what is embarrassing about it? it was a debate. what is she supposed to say? after 2008 and 2016, people need to stop taking tiffs in debates so seriously later on

The debate moment was fine. What's concerning us how she"s completely unprepared to respond to a predictable line if questioning.

So you expect her to reiterate a negative critique of Joe Biden during the general election? It was a debate. This clip is so benign. Like.... folks are grasping at anything.

[DisneyDem]

If folks would read the Nixon tweet,  One of the replies captures what she should’ve said

[Heebie Jeebie]

If folks would read the Nixon tweet,  One of the replies captures what she should’ve said

Seriously.  It's not that hard.

https://twitter.com/itnor1/status/1275499949095038977

Anyway, I want to be clear that I like Harris and I hope Biden picks her as his running mate.  But I also agree with Nixon--Harris just isn't that quick on her feet, and isn't a natural politician like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or even Joe Biden.  She's more like Hillary.  Which is fine!  I love Hillary and think she would have been a superb president.  Campaigning and governing are just two different skill sets, and it's rare for a politician to excel at both. 

[wbrocks67]

There was multiple ways she could answer that question. People are truly reaching to be 'outraged' at whatever she does or says.

[DisneyDem]

Can someone give me a reasonable reason why Ayanna Pressley isn’t being considered? She’s worked in a Senate office, she’s worked on a presidential campaign, she defeated an incumbent. She is the true Unity pick and I see no excuse why she isn’t running away with it.

[Heebie Jeebie]

Can someone give me a reasonable reason why Ayanna Pressley isn’t being considered? She’s worked in a Senate office, she’s worked on a presidential campaign, she defeated an incumbent. She is the true Unity pick and I see no excuse why she isn’t running away with it.

She's a first-term Congressional rep, i.e. she's unqualified.  The veep pick should be and will be a Senator, Governor, high-level Cabinet official, or prominent member of House leadership.

[Da2017]

https://twitter.com/itnor1/status/1275499949095038977

Anyway, I want to be clear that I like Harris and I hope Biden picks her as his running mate.  But I also agree with Nixon--Harris just isn't that quick on her feet, and isn't a natural politician like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or even Joe Biden.  She's more like Hillary.  Which is fine!  I love Hillary and think she would have been a superb president.  Campaigning and governing are just two different skill sets, and it's rare for a politician to excel at both. 

Harris is a lot warmer has more charisma. She probably more like George HW. Warren is more like Hillary. Both are fine choices for Vp.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

https://twitter.com/itnor1/status/1275499949095038977

Anyway, I want to be clear that I like Harris and I hope Biden picks her as his running mate.  But I also agree with Nixon--Harris just isn't that quick on her feet, and isn't a natural politician like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or even Joe Biden.  She's more like Hillary.  Which is fine!  I love Hillary and think she would have been a superb president.  Campaigning and governing are just two different skill sets, and it's rare for a politician to excel at both. 

Harris is a lot warmer has more charisma. She probably more like George HW. Warren is more like Hillary. Both are fine choices for Vp.

Yeah no, Harris is definitely more Hillary-like than Warren.

[DisneyDem]

I’ve often compared Harris to HW Bush. She may not be directly in the loop about the things she gets blamed for, and she wants to do the right thing, but she’s far too trusting of her deputies and friends, unable to get a handle on what’s really going on.

[wbrocks67]

It would appear that Harris being out front and center lately is helping her. Her favorability used to be at like -6 on YouGov polls - it's in the positive now

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/cjd35jrh5o/econTabReport.pdf

[dunceDude]

I’ve often compared Harris to HW Bush. She may not be directly in the loop about the things she gets blamed for, and she wants to do the right thing, but she’s far too trusting of her deputies and friends, unable to get a handle on what’s really going on.

This is a solid anti-Harris point. For all the screeching on here about 'muh prosecutor' and 'muh identity politics', the biggest problem with her campaign was staffing/managerial, with her sister Maya crowding out the actual campaign manager and causing confusion.

A second problem was Harris' inability to stick to one case for her candidacy, but idk. Seems like a problem that was caused by having 19 other candidates and she's "found herself" on the issues now.

[Suburbia]

Karen Bass would be good as well

If Harris is picked, they will bring back the desegregation/busing thing

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The extent to which all the attacks on Harris have proven to be silliness like this has me thinking she might not be such a bad VP pick after all.  I mean, if this is the worst folks can come up with...

[Landslide Lyndon]

I’ve often compared Harris to HW Bush. She may not be directly in the loop about the things she gets blamed for, and she wants to do the right thing, but she’s far too trusting of her deputies and friends, unable to get a handle on what’s really going on.

This is a solid anti-Harris point. For all the screeching on here about 'muh prosecutor' and 'muh identity politics', the biggest problem with her campaign was staffing/managerial, with her sister Maya crowding out the actual campaign manager and causing confusion.

A second problem was Harris' inability to stick to one case for her candidacy, but idk. Seems like a problem that was caused by having 19 other candidates and she's "found herself" on the issues now.

That was my main concern about her always, that she isn't a very good administrator/manager.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

https://twitter.com/itnor1/status/1275499949095038977

Anyway, I want to be clear that I like Harris and I hope Biden picks her as his running mate.  But I also agree with Nixon--Harris just isn't that quick on her feet, and isn't a natural politician like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or even Joe Biden.  She's more like Hillary.  Which is fine!  I love Hillary and think she would have been a superb president.  Campaigning and governing are just two different skill sets, and it's rare for a politician to excel at both.  

Harris is a lot warmer has more charisma. She probably more like George HW. Warren is more like Hillary. Both are fine choices for Vp.

Yeah no, Harris is definitely more Hillary-like than Warren.

Can we stop camparing female politicians to Hillary Clinton when we don't like them? Everyone has their flaws.

Kamala Harris is much more charismatic and personable than Clinton.

On the flip side, let's also stop comparing Republican women to Sarah Palin. I know I have been guilty of it, but it's inappropriate.

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Any female politician that you don't like is not "like Hillary" you guys. Stop it.

Kamala is NOTHING like Hillary.

[Heebie Jeebie]

Any female politician that you don't like is not "like Hillary" you guys. Stop it.

Kamala is NOTHING like Hillary.

Hey, I said Kamala is like Hillary because I like Hillary Clinton.  I'm stickin' to my guns on this one.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Any female politician that you don't like is not "like Hillary" you guys. Stop it.

Kamala is NOTHING like Hillary.

Hey, I said Kamala is like Hillary because I like Hillary Clinton.  I'm stickin' to my guns on this one.

I was speaking generally. Also, there are other posters who used that comparison negatively.

[dunceDude]

Kamala is NOTHING like Hillary.

They both subscribe to the "I hated that question so now I'm fake laughing!" school of thought. Otherwise I agree. Not that it's important, just off-putting... like Chick-fil-A customer service.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

https://twitter.com/itnor1/status/1275499949095038977

Anyway, I want to be clear that I like Harris and I hope Biden picks her as his running mate.  But I also agree with Nixon--Harris just isn't that quick on her feet, and isn't a natural politician like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or even Joe Biden.  She's more like Hillary.  Which is fine!  I love Hillary and think she would have been a superb president.  Campaigning and governing are just two different skill sets, and it's rare for a politician to excel at both.  

Harris is a lot warmer has more charisma. She probably more like George HW. Warren is more like Hillary. Both are fine choices for Vp.

Yeah no, Harris is definitely more Hillary-like than Warren.

Can we stop camparing female politicians to Hillary Clinton when we don't like them? Everyone has their flaws.

Kamala Harris is much more charismatic and personable than Clinton.

Sure we can... but I don’t dislike Hillary. They’re both just a little awkward when they try to be funny, whereas Warren is usually way more successful at getting a joke across.

[wbrocks67]

Also in the YouGov poll: who do you think should be selected as Joe Biden’s VP?
(Among voters voting for Joe Biden)

Kamala Harris 24%
Elizabeth Warren 18%
Stacey Abrams 9%
Susan Rice 6%
Val Demings 3%
Gretchen Whitmer 3%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 2%
Tammy Baldwin 1%
Michelle Lujan Grisham 1%

Females: Harris 22%, Warren 17%, Abrams 10%
Males: Harris 26%, Warren 20%, Abrams 8%
18-29: Warren 25%, Harris 21%, Abrams 8%
Whites: Harris 21%, Warren 18%, Abrams 8%
Blacks: Harris 21%, Warren 19%, Abrams 14%
Hispanics: Harris 37%, Warren 16%, Abrams 6%

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Also in the YouGov poll: who do you think should be selected as Joe Biden’s VP?
(Among voters voting for Joe Biden)

Kamala Harris 24%
Elizabeth Warren 18%
Stacey Abrams 9%
Susan Rice 6%
Val Demings 3%
Gretchen Whitmer 3%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 2%
Tammy Baldwin 1%
Michelle Lujan Grisham 1%

Females: Harris 22%, Warren 17%, Abrams 10%
Males: Harris 26%, Warren 20%, Abrams 8%
18-29: Warren 25%, Harris 21%, Abrams 8%
Whites: Harris 21%, Warren 18%, Abrams 8%
Blacks: Harris 21%, Warren 19%, Abrams 14%
Hispanics: Harris 37%, Warren 16%, Abrams 6%

This shows that Harris has both wide appeal and a wider base than what some in here like to claim.

Also, if Biden has a "Hispanic voter problem", then this poll CLEARLY shows that he should pick Kamala.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Also in the YouGov poll: who do you think should be selected as Joe Biden’s VP?
(Among voters voting for Joe Biden)

Kamala Harris 24%
Elizabeth Warren 18%
Stacey Abrams 9%
Susan Rice 6%
Val Demings 3%
Gretchen Whitmer 3%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 2%
Tammy Baldwin 1%
Michelle Lujan Grisham 1%

Females: Harris 22%, Warren 17%, Abrams 10%
Males: Harris 26%, Warren 20%, Abrams 8%
18-29: Warren 25%, Harris 21%, Abrams 8%
Whites: Harris 21%, Warren 18%, Abrams 8%
Blacks: Harris 21%, Warren 19%, Abrams 14%
Hispanics: Harris 37%, Warren 16%, Abrams 6%

I maintain my stance that these polls are largely based on name recognition, but Harris’s strength with Hispanics is interesting. She also seems to have really improved her favorability rating since she dropped out of the primary.