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« Reply #2225 on: June 07, 2020, 11:58:19 AM »

Demings and Whitmer. Harris is a little too activist compared to Biden and obviously Amy is in trouble now.
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« Reply #2226 on: June 07, 2020, 12:02:27 PM »

Wow. So many people that spread lies and smears to uplift their candidate coming around. Interesting. Almost like they knew it was BS the whole time.
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« Reply #2227 on: June 07, 2020, 12:10:02 PM »

This seems important



Even Shaun King agrees.
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« Reply #2228 on: June 07, 2020, 12:25:56 PM »

What does Harris have that KLB does not?
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« Reply #2229 on: June 07, 2020, 12:28:48 PM »

What does Harris have that KLB does not?

A bigger resume? More name recognition? Has won statewide office? Experience running for executive office? Legislative experience?
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« Reply #2230 on: June 07, 2020, 01:09:04 PM »

I still think it’s warren.
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« Reply #2231 on: June 07, 2020, 01:27:40 PM »


She would bring out the Native American votes!
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« Reply #2232 on: June 07, 2020, 01:28:53 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
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« Reply #2233 on: June 07, 2020, 01:38:57 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.
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« Reply #2234 on: June 07, 2020, 01:40:49 PM »

Bottoms would an example of a pure identity politics pick.

She has no qualifications that would make her a good VP pick.
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« Reply #2235 on: June 07, 2020, 01:42:04 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.
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« Reply #2236 on: June 07, 2020, 01:45:20 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.
I don't support choosing KLB (not necessarily opposed to Biden choosing her either). She's unlikely to be picked regardless.

Anyways, how would picking her be "purely for identity politics"?
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« Reply #2237 on: June 07, 2020, 01:47:12 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.
I don't support choosing KLB (not necessarily opposed to Biden choosing her either). She's unlikely to be picked regardless.

Anyways, how would picking her be "purely for identity politics"?

...because she doesn't add much to the Biden ticket aside from being black
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« Reply #2238 on: June 07, 2020, 01:50:44 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
Bowser endorsed Bloomberg IIRC.
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« Reply #2239 on: June 07, 2020, 02:18:11 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
Bowser endorsed Bloomberg IIRC.
Oh yeah, that too. She should stay far away from the White House.
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« Reply #2240 on: June 07, 2020, 02:20:35 PM »

Kamala looks strong right now.

I will still groan if she's picked, but it's better than before.
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« Reply #2241 on: June 07, 2020, 04:35:04 PM »

I dont support a Harris Veeps, Dems are acting like Harris is the only African American out there. If you lived in Cali, she has done zero for the African American community here. That's why she wasnt nominated for Prez

Abrams would do more for African Americans than Harris, she would keep the status quo like Obama did
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« Reply #2242 on: June 07, 2020, 04:46:02 PM »

I dont support a Harris Veeps, Dems are acting like Harris is the only African American out there. If you lived in Cali, she has done zero for the African American community here. That's why she wasnt nominated for Prez

Abrams would do more for African Americans than Harris, she would keep the status quo like Obama did

...Obama just happens to be the most popular Democrat
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« Reply #2243 on: June 07, 2020, 06:02:16 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?
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« Reply #2244 on: June 07, 2020, 06:09:00 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?
Do republicans care what “looks bad?”
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« Reply #2245 on: June 07, 2020, 06:11:49 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.
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« Reply #2246 on: June 07, 2020, 06:29:47 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.
That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".
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« Reply #2247 on: June 07, 2020, 06:30:36 PM »
« Edited: June 07, 2020, 06:38:58 PM by Ogre Mage »


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Harris' transformation began in earnest when she left law enforcement in 2016. She conceded at points in the campaign that she wishes she'd done more to advance change, and she credited activism around the Black Lives Matter movement with expanding the range of reforms that came to be viewed as possible. Before releasing her campaign criminal justice plan last fall, which became the foundation for her attitudes today, she spent months in frequent contact with reformers and policymakers.

Harris was wise to begin working on this some time ago.  If she had waited to start until after her presidential bid ended (like Klobuchar) and she was a top VP prospect, she would have zero credibility with Black Lives Matter and their ilk.

We are now in a general election environment and the VP nominee will be required to navigate between multiple constituencies and communities.  The person will need to speak to both BLM and white voters in the suburbs.  I think Harris can.
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« Reply #2248 on: June 07, 2020, 06:40:08 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.
That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)
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« Reply #2249 on: June 07, 2020, 06:46:33 PM »

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?
KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.
That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)
What does Val Demings "add"?
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