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« Reply #875 on: April 24, 2020, 10:42:42 AM »

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Pressure has been growing on Mr. Biden to choose a black woman to inspire black turnout this fall and not take it for granted. The Rev. Al Sharpton, for instance, who speaks to Mr. Biden regularly, is to announce his support for Ms. Abrams as vice president as soon as next week, according to those familiar with his plans.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi has encouraged allies to float names of House members like Representatives Val Demings of Florida and Marcia Fudge of Ohio, according to people familiar with those conversations, in part to reward members of her caucus with a higher profile.

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Several leaders in the Congressional Black Caucus, an organization steeped in tradition, have preferred Ms. Harris, who is a member.

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A recent comment from Mr. Clyburn publicly undercut Ms. Abrams in favor of Ms. Bottoms. Mr. Clyburn, who declined an interview request for this article, said Ms. Abrams lacked sufficient experience.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/us/politics/joe-biden-vice-president-black-candidates.html
Who would be "inspired" to turn out because of Marcia Fudge? LOL, c'mon Nancy.

Also, Stacey Abrams just doesn't have enough experience to be VP.
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« Reply #876 on: April 24, 2020, 11:19:13 AM »

Are there people in Florida who would vote for a Biden/Demings ticket who wouldn't otherwise vote for Biden? Is she super popular in Orlando?

I can see how being a police chief might appeal to suburban moderates, but will it flip voters? Does she also turn out black voters?
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« Reply #877 on: April 24, 2020, 11:30:14 AM »

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Sixty-seven percent of registered Latino voters would be more likely to support him if he picks Cortez Masto for the number two slot; 22% would be less likely to support him. Asked another way, 72% said they would be more likely to turn out and actually vote for Biden if he selected the Nevada senator; 17% would be less likely to do so.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/
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« Reply #878 on: April 24, 2020, 11:31:12 AM »

It's just one poll but Data for Progress is out with new VP data that shows Warren would be the strongest choice for Sander's supporters, voters under 45, and black voters. This is likely at least partially due to name rec but still...

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« Reply #879 on: April 24, 2020, 12:06:31 PM »

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A recent comment from Mr. Clyburn publicly undercut Ms. Abrams in favor of Ms. Bottoms. Mr. Clyburn, who declined an interview request for this article, said Ms. Abrams lacked sufficient experience.

But Lance Bottoms, with 2 years as mayor of Atlanta, has sufficient experience?
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« Reply #880 on: April 24, 2020, 12:14:48 PM »

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A recent comment from Mr. Clyburn publicly undercut Ms. Abrams in favor of Ms. Bottoms. Mr. Clyburn, who declined an interview request for this article, said Ms. Abrams lacked sufficient experience.

But Lance Bottoms, with 2 years as mayor of Atlanta, has sufficient experience?

I guess it does give her a bit more executive experience than Abrams, running the largest city in Georgia.
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« Reply #881 on: April 24, 2020, 01:10:18 PM »



More people hyping up Abrams for some reason...
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« Reply #882 on: April 24, 2020, 01:13:39 PM »

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Sixty-seven percent of registered Latino voters would be more likely to support him if he picks Cortez Masto for the number two slot; 22% would be less likely to support him. Asked another way, 72% said they would be more likely to turn out and actually vote for Biden if he selected the Nevada senator; 17% would be less likely to do so.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

CCM is the candidate with least downsides, but a lot of pros: Critical demographic, age, senate control, experience, baggage or lack there of.

Abrams is not vice presidential material.
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« Reply #883 on: April 24, 2020, 01:40:42 PM »

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Sixty-seven percent of registered Latino voters would be more likely to support him if he picks Cortez Masto for the number two slot; 22% would be less likely to support him. Asked another way, 72% said they would be more likely to turn out and actually vote for Biden if he selected the Nevada senator; 17% would be less likely to do so.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

CCM is the candidate with least downsides, but a lot of pros: Critical demographic, age, senate control, experience, baggage or lack there of.

Abrams is not vice presidential material.

Yeah, I’m shifting more in favor of CCM as VEEP. The pros outweigh the cons by a lot with her.
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« Reply #884 on: April 24, 2020, 01:44:27 PM »

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Sixty-seven percent of registered Latino voters would be more likely to support him if he picks Cortez Masto for the number two slot; 22% would be less likely to support him. Asked another way, 72% said they would be more likely to turn out and actually vote for Biden if he selected the Nevada senator; 17% would be less likely to do so.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

CCM is the candidate with least downsides, but a lot of pros: Critical demographic, age, senate control, experience, baggage or lack there of.

Abrams is not vice presidential material.

Yeah, I’m shifting more in favor of CCM as VEEP. The pros outweigh the cons by a lot with her.
Same for me with Duckworth, as much as I love her. We NEED to do better with Hispanics, which this would allow. Nickname change incoming...
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« Reply #885 on: April 24, 2020, 01:52:37 PM »

I'm very much on the #WarrenforVP train but I think Harris is the best fit for a black woman as VP--plus she's a familiar name for most Americans so she won't have to go through the trouble that Abrams/Lance Bottoms would have to and introduce herself to the country. Abrams is more well-known among the electorate, but how many non-political nerds know about the runner up in the 2018 Georgia Gubernatorial race? Not many.
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« Reply #886 on: April 24, 2020, 02:07:29 PM »

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Sixty-seven percent of registered Latino voters would be more likely to support him if he picks Cortez Masto for the number two slot; 22% would be less likely to support him. Asked another way, 72% said they would be more likely to turn out and actually vote for Biden if he selected the Nevada senator; 17% would be less likely to do so.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

CCM is the candidate with least downsides, but a lot of pros: Critical demographic, age, senate control, experience, baggage or lack there of.

Abrams is not vice presidential material.

Yeah, I’m shifting more in favor of CCM as VEEP. The pros outweigh the cons by a lot with her.

Whatever happened to your love affair with Kamala?
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« Reply #887 on: April 24, 2020, 02:18:47 PM »

CCM is the candidate with least downsides, but a lot of pros: Critical demographic, age, senate control, experience, baggage or lack there of.

Abrams is not vice presidential material.
What demographic would that be??
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« Reply #888 on: April 24, 2020, 02:22:24 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2020, 11:22:55 PM by Make PA Blue Again! »

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Sixty-seven percent of registered Latino voters would be more likely to support him if he picks Cortez Masto for the number two slot; 22% would be less likely to support him. Asked another way, 72% said they would be more likely to turn out and actually vote for Biden if he selected the Nevada senator; 17% would be less likely to do so.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

CCM is the candidate with least downsides, but a lot of pros: Critical demographic, age, senate control, experience, baggage or lack there of.

Abrams is not vice presidential material.

Yeah, I’m shifting more in favor of CCM as VEEP. The pros outweigh the cons by a lot with her.

Whatever happened to your love affair with Kamala?

I still love her and think she'd make an excellent Vice President, but we really need to lock down the latino vote. Kamala is like #2 on my list.
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« Reply #889 on: April 24, 2020, 03:12:32 PM »



More people hyping up Abrams for some reason...

I mean, Sharpton is a race-baiting, anti-Semitic grifter, so being supported by him should really be a strike against Abrams if anything.  Also, I refuse to believe Pelosi is dumb enough to push Fudge for VP.
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« Reply #890 on: April 24, 2020, 04:26:46 PM »

Wasn't Fudge threatening to challenge Pelosi for the speakership in 2019? I doubt Nancy would want her to be VP... unless she thinks she poses a serious threat in the future and wants to eliminate her.
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« Reply #891 on: April 24, 2020, 04:43:17 PM »



Stacey said f-ck what y’all have to say. She’s going to continue to lobby all she wants. Lol.
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« Reply #892 on: April 24, 2020, 05:59:26 PM »

Wasn't Fudge threatening to challenge Pelosi for the speakership in 2019? I doubt Nancy would want her to be VP... unless she thinks she poses a serious threat in the future and wants to eliminate her.

Fudge did but she ultimately endorsed Pelosi after Pelosi named her as chairwoman of a House Administration Subcommittee.  Also, Pelosi agreed to step down as speaker at the end of 2022 so she has no reason to worry about a future challenge.

To me this looks like Pelosi flattering an influential member of her caucus.  Surely she does not believe Fudge has a serious chance of being the running mate.
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« Reply #893 on: April 24, 2020, 06:01:20 PM »

Per the Atlantic, Abrams is not being seriously considered for VP.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/24/stacy-abrams-not-a-likely-pick-for-biden/
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« Reply #894 on: April 24, 2020, 06:07:36 PM »


I still love her and think she'd make an excellent Vice President, but I feel that CCM is a safer choice. Kamala is like #2 on my list.

Is this the time to play it safe though? Does CCM excite... anyone? She strikes me as a VP choice that makes sense on paper, but could land with a thud.
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« Reply #895 on: April 24, 2020, 06:10:11 PM »


No surprise.  I wonder what Biden's inner circle thinks about her nonstop campaign for VP.  lol.
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« Reply #896 on: April 24, 2020, 06:12:49 PM »


Good. Why in the word would anyone pass up CCM, Warren, Harris, and Duckworth for someone who has held office no higher than state legislature?
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« Reply #897 on: April 24, 2020, 06:15:13 PM »

I still love her and think she'd make an excellent Vice President, but I feel that CCM is a safer choice. Kamala is like #2 on my list.

Is this the time to play it safe though? Does CCM excite... anyone? She strikes me as a VP choice that makes sense on paper, but could land with a thud.
It is not the VP nominee's job to excite people.
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« Reply #898 on: April 24, 2020, 06:16:18 PM »

I still love her and think she'd make an excellent Vice President, but I feel that CCM is a safer choice. Kamala is like #2 on my list.

Is this the time to play it safe though? Does CCM excite... anyone? She strikes me as a VP choice that makes sense on paper, but could land with a thud.
It is not the VP nominee's job to excite people.

Didn’t say that.

With Biden’s age, he’s likely picking his successor. I was saying she’s not qualified.
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« Reply #899 on: April 24, 2020, 06:17:41 PM »

I still love her and think she'd make an excellent Vice President, but I feel that CCM is a safer choice. Kamala is like #2 on my list.

Is this the time to play it safe though? Does CCM excite... anyone? She strikes me as a VP choice that makes sense on paper, but could land with a thud.
It is not the VP nominee's job to excite people.

Didn’t say that.

With Biden’s age, he’s likely picking his successor. I was saying she’s not qualified.
I was replying to woodley park, not you. I agree with you in that Biden is likely picking his successor, whether in 2024 or (more likely) 2028.
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