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« Reply #675 on: October 01, 2020, 07:05:17 PM »

Ernst is voting for Barrett, likewise with Collins, she said the voting must wait til after election, but we know from Kavanaugh that she would vote to confirm Justice Barrett. Ernst is done

SCOTUS destroyed Collins because Maine is fairly liberal.  I would have thought it would help Ernst if anything though?  Maybe Iowans don't like the absurd hypocrisy though?
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« Reply #676 on: October 01, 2020, 07:12:40 PM »

Ernst is voting for Barrett, likewise with Collins, she said the voting must wait til after election, but we know from Kavanaugh that she would vote to confirm Justice Barrett. Ernst is done

SCOTUS destroyed Collins because Maine is fairly liberal.  I would have thought it would help Ernst if anything though?  Maybe Iowans don't like the absurd hypocrisy though?

All of our Congressional districts support Ginsburg and they are fairly liberal
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« Reply #677 on: October 02, 2020, 07:52:30 PM »

Wow, Joni Ernst listened to my #retailpolitics advice



Are you criticizing Senator Ernst?

Funny, did you go to all of Iowa's 99 counties?

yeah, that's what I thought.
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« Reply #678 on: October 04, 2020, 12:32:37 AM »

Not a good look for Greenfield. (Ignore the NRSC flack tweet, the video is objectively bad)

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« Reply #679 on: October 05, 2020, 08:26:21 AM »

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« Reply #680 on: October 05, 2020, 09:09:46 AM »

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LMAO Ernst is grasping at straws. Also that video is not the own the NRSCC thinks it is. Ernst comes off like a robot, emotionless typical DC political with no soul.
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« Reply #681 on: October 05, 2020, 09:18:00 AM »

Lol, why should Greenfield address stuff from an NC candidate who not even did something unlawful. Has Ernst condemned Mr. Trump's corruption? Ernst is a joke and always has been.
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« Reply #682 on: October 05, 2020, 09:45:39 AM »

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This makes me feel significantly more confident about our chances to win a Senate majority of this is what the GOP is latching on to.
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« Reply #683 on: October 05, 2020, 10:55:57 AM »

The problem for Ernst is that she comes off so damn disingenuous every time she opens her mouth.
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« Reply #684 on: October 05, 2020, 03:44:31 PM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.
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« Reply #685 on: October 05, 2020, 03:58:02 PM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.


it IS a pure tossup though. and the fundamentals are not good for Trump/Rs right now, especially in a state like IA when his support is collapsing in the midwest.
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« Reply #686 on: October 05, 2020, 04:04:42 PM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.


Ernst is gonna lose due to fact our Congressional districts are Lean D, underestimating Greenfield is to Rs detriment. IA isn't safe R, it was a D state before 2014, it had Tom Harkins and Chet Culver
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« Reply #687 on: October 08, 2020, 05:09:15 AM »

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« Reply #688 on: October 08, 2020, 05:35:54 AM »



That's pretty insane. She's still not going to win.
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« Reply #689 on: October 08, 2020, 05:39:16 AM »

IA or NC will be the 50th seat for the D's, I don't see D's getting over 52 seats now, since Daines is winning. The D's will win 1 GA seat if Trump loses
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« Reply #690 on: October 08, 2020, 08:02:42 AM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.

Except McCaskill was never a strong candidate in 2018 to begin with, and she constantly struggled in the polls.
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« Reply #691 on: October 08, 2020, 08:18:43 AM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.

Except McCaskill was never a strong candidate in 2018 to begin with, and she constantly struggled in the polls.


Yeah, and Senator Donnelly won because he was a strong, popular incumbent unlike McCaskill.
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« Reply #692 on: October 08, 2020, 08:36:32 AM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.

Except McCaskill was never a strong candidate in 2018 to begin with, and she constantly struggled in the polls.


Not to mention the fact that Missouri is a more Republican state than Iowa.
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« Reply #693 on: October 08, 2020, 08:59:47 AM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.


- McCaskill trailed in most polls.

- McCaskill had been consistently unpopular for years. There was an absolutely vicious Republican smear campaign against her that literally began back in 2016.

- Hawley had a Kavanaugh bump right at the end. Missourians are totally unable to resist culture war red meat.
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« Reply #694 on: October 08, 2020, 09:39:03 AM »

I think this race will be a redux of MO-SEN 2018. Here’s how: 1) The Republican is initially viewed as a “strong candidate” 2) Then people focus on how “bad” or “lackluster” a campaign he/she has run 3) call the race a “pure tossup” when it clearly isn’t 4) ignore the fundamentals 5) act surprised when the Republican candidate outperforms the polls.


- McCaskill trailed in most polls.

- McCaskill had been consistently unpopular for years. There was an absolutely vicious Republican smear campaign against her that literally began back in 2016.

- Hawley had a Kavanaugh bump right at the end. Missourians are totally unable to resist culture war red meat.

Don't forget the Migrant Caravan bs.
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« Reply #695 on: October 08, 2020, 10:42:27 AM »

Reduxes are overdone, but I think a better parallel if Ernst wins would be PA-SEN 2016 (incumbent initially seen as nearly safe because of early polls and a Weak Opponent™, then polls start to show the challenger leading, and people realize that the incumbent isn't that "strong" and start to consider the challenger favored. The incumbent then overperforms polls by just enough to win.)

If she loses (which I'm still not predicting, but it is definitely plausible if the environment is as good for Democrats as it seems), I'd say the right parallel would be CO-SEN 2014 (incumbent initially seen as safe because of the trends in the state, then the race ends up becoming much more competitive than expected, and polls show the incumbent losing. People assume that polls will underestimate the incumbent's party as they have in the past, but they end up being close to accurate in this particular race, and the incumbent narrowly loses.)

I've never been bullish on Greenfield's chances (I'd still give a very slight edge to Ernst), as those on this forum know, but I don't think calling this race a Toss-Up in a D+8-10 environment is unreasonable at all. The trend in Iowa isn't good for Democrats, and a win here would probably be the last time for a while Democrats would win a Senate race here, but Iowa isn't as Republican as Missouri yet, and there are cases of a party winning races in states where the trend is unfavorable for their party due to a favorable national environment.
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« Reply #696 on: October 10, 2020, 04:47:50 PM »

Joni Ernst tours the state by motorcycle in the final days of 'tough, tough, tough' re-election fight.

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"It's not what I feel on the ground," she said. "It's not what I feel when I'm traveling through all 99 counties of Iowa. I am out there, every single week, traveling to a different county and meeting with Iowans."
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« Reply #697 on: October 10, 2020, 04:52:51 PM »

This isn't 2016 it's 2020, and Ernst is in Tom Harkins seat, Greenfield will win😀😀😀

Dems in Congressional races will win
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« Reply #698 on: October 10, 2020, 05:21:21 PM »

This isn't 2016 it's 2020, and Ernst is in Tom Harkins seat, Greenfield will win😀😀😀

Dems in Congressional races will win

What does Tom Harkin have to do with 2020?
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« Reply #699 on: October 10, 2020, 05:32:35 PM »

Joni Ernst tours the state by motorcycle in the final days of 'tough, tough, tough' re-election fight.

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"It's not what I feel on the ground," she said. "It's not what I feel when I'm traveling through all 99 counties of Iowa. I am out there, every single week, traveling to a different county and meeting with Iowans."

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