Congressional Special Election (last call! unstickied after NY-27 final results)

[Virginiá]

I'd just like to add here that this is a fairly good example of why voter fraud on a mass scale is practically non-existent: people are too stupid and too reckless, and with the highly-connected world we live in, there are too many people watching and too much detailed data to watch. On top of that, the electorate is too big, so you'd have to somehow be ready to turn in as many of thousands and thousands of votes to guarantee a flip. There are just too many moving parts, too many ways to screw up, too many ways to fall short, and too many interactions with real people that end up leaving a trail of evidence.

In this case, yes, they didn't get caught until after the election, but that might not matter in the end. Based on what we're seeing, I think he only way to swing this election illegally without getting caught would take a lot more sophistication and effort than we're seeing here.

[Nyvin]

This also shows how useless voter ID laws are since they do nothing to prevent absentee ballot fraud,  which is where the vast majority of voter fraud (The little of it there is) occurs.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Well, this is interesting:

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1069726843526361099

[Beet]

If this was a Democrat, Trump would be tweeting it nonstop, turning it into a major story and serving as the justification for every Republican voter suppression tactic in the country. But since it's a Republican, crickets.

[UncleSam]

This also shows how useless voter ID laws are since they do nothing to prevent absentee ballot fraud,  which is where the vast majority of voter fraud (The little of it there is) occurs.

It’s where the vast majority of prosecuted* voter fraud is.

Neither you nor any other living soul has any idea how many non-citizens vote in California. Again, no one has ANY idea - I’m not saying it definitely happens because I don’t know, but I also know that you don’t know it doesn’t happen because there would be no way of knowing.

The point of voter ID laws is to know for sure who votes in our elections. The point against them is because Dems know that in as much as we don’t know, whoever is sliding through the cracks is likely voting for their candidates by large margins.

When you offer driver’s licenses to anyone and then only require a deiver’s license to vote, it is not unreasonable for an outsider to think that maybe the state doesn’t care about non-citizens voting. Look up the laws and requirements in California if you don’t believe me.

[pppolitics]

Save this name:

Leslie McCrae Dowless

[Virginiá]

When you offer driver’s licenses to anyone and then only require a deiver’s license to vote, it is not unreasonable for an outsider to think that maybe the state doesn’t care about non-citizens voting. Look up the laws and requirements in California if you don’t believe me.

California drives licenses for undocumented immigrants aren't the same as for citizens.

[2016]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

[Bidenworth2020]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

yep. the nonpartisan election(with 4-5 pubs on it) board that voted unanimously to do an investigation is trying to steal this race for dems.

[DrScholl]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

THE FRAUD CAME FROM THE REPUBLICAN!

[RogueBeaver]

Thread. https://twitter.com/JoeBrunoWSOC9/status/1069719818574675969

https://twitter.com/JoeBrunoWSOC9/status/1069723057449783296

https://twitter.com/JoeBrunoWSOC9/status/1069734540661411840

[GeorgiaModerate]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

*plonk*

[Brittain33]

Democrats are...

Blah blah blah. I know you're reading this thread and understand what's happening in NC-9. As FLOTUS would say, when you're tempted to post things like this, remember to be best instead.

[Virginiá]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

*plonk*

I don't think he's read any of what is going on. He probably just waved it off as a "nothingburger" since it doesn't benefit his party. I don't really see how any objective person could deny what is going on here. It's not like the 99% of other cases where Republicans cry wolf yet have zero evidence of any wrongdoing. In this case, there is copious amounts of evidence.

[President Phil Scott]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

yep. the nonpartisan election(with 4-5 pubs on it) board that voted unanimously to do an investigation is trying to steal this race for dems.

Un related, but what's that Ernst map in your sig?

[Bidenworth2020]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

yep. the nonpartisan election(with 4-5 pubs on it) board that voted unanimously to do an investigation is trying to steal this race for dems.

Un related, but what's that Ernst map in your sig?

her 2020 map.

[Progressive Pessimist]

This also shows how useless voter ID laws are since they do nothing to prevent absentee ballot fraud,  which is where the vast majority of voter fraud (The little of it there is) occurs.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

While I don’t agree with your characterizations, since people like you only care about voter fraud investigations when democrats are the suspects, I still think the board should certify the race.

[lfromnj]

yeah as someone who was a bit skeptical of the claims at first but said fine let them be investigated I am now all but certain that there was fraud. Now the investigation is either if Harris had direct knowledge or if the fraud affected the margin.

[President Phil Scott]

So what's happened while i was mandated to be gone and took a little bit of a rest here? Haven't caught up on all the news yet. Any conclusive evidence of fraid, un the meantime?

[lfromnj]

Also IMO  Cooper should have appointed one of the GOP members as head of the board while the replacement is still a dem.
It seems the GOP members are fairly bipartisan and willing to work so he could picked one of the two.
By replacing a contraversial dem with another dem the optics aren't great.

[President Phil Scott]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

yep. the nonpartisan election(with 4-5 pubs on it) board that voted unanimously to do an investigation is trying to steal this race for dems.

Un related, but what's that Ernst map in your sig?

her 2020 map.

Wouldn't have guess you were a fan!

[Virginiá]

Also IMO  Cooper should have appointed one of the GOP members as head of the board while the replacement is still a dem.
It seems the GOP members are fairly bipartisan and willing to work so he could picked one of the two.
By replacing a contraversial dem with another dem the optics aren't great.

They are working together for now, but this is North Carolina. That could easily change, especially given that there is a House seat at stake. The NCGOP has built up a solid reputation as totally untrustworthy and consumed by greed and a lust for power, so they should never be given the benefit of the doubt. Now, if we were in another state, perhaps you're right, sure.

[lfromnj]

Also IMO  Cooper should have appointed one of the GOP members as head of the board while the replacement is still a dem.
It seems the GOP members are fairly bipartisan and willing to work so he could picked one of the two.
By replacing a contraversial dem with another dem the optics aren't great.

They are working together for now, but this is North Carolina. That could easily change, especially given that there is a House seat at stake. The NCGOP has built up a solid reputation as totally untrustworthy and consumed by greed and a lust for power, so they should never be given the benefit of the doubt. Now, if we were in another state, perhaps you're right, sure.

I mean the optics would clearly look much better. Or atleast the indie should have been appointed the head. It really isn't good to make the head the head a dem again IMO.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Democrats are trying to steal another Congressional Race. They always do.

While I don’t agree with your characterizations, since people like you only care about voter fraud investigations when democrats are the suspects, I still think the board should certify the race.

How can you possibly be for certifying the race at this point, given all the information that's come out in the last few days?