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« on: November 26, 2018, 08:47:30 PM »
« edited: November 26, 2018, 08:55:12 PM by Trounce-'em Theresa »

AMERICA, ¡UNA!
AMERICA, ¡GRANDE!
AMERICA, ¡LIBRE!
¡ARRIBA AMERICA!
¡ARRIBA!
PROCURADOR GENERAL ULYSSES S. WEBB, ¡PRESENTE!
PROCURADOR GENERAL (Y DESPUÉS GOBERNADOR) EARL WARREN, ¡PRESENTE!
GOBERNADOR PETE WILSON, ¡PRESENTE!
CAÍDOS POR DIOS Y POR NATIVISMO, ¡PRESENTE!
¡VIVA TRUMP!
¡VIVA!
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2018, 08:59:11 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2018, 09:10:41 PM »

RIP GLORIOUS FFS

DENHAM, JEFFREY
KNIGHT, STEPHEN
ROHRABACHER, DANA
VALADAO, DAVID
WALTERS, MARIAN ELAINE

DIED WITH THE HONORS IN THE FIGHT FOR TRUMPISM AND RANDISM
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 09:26:04 PM »

Republicans now have only 7/53 congressional seats if Cox's lead holds. That's 13%. Republicans fail to crack 40% in every statewide race. This is a new low for California Republicans.

Where this doesn't help Democrats is in the presidential race, where despite running up huge margins they may still lose the electoral college while winning the popular vote by 2, 3, maybe even as much as 5 points.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2018, 10:14:10 PM »

The funny thing is that they haven't reached rock bottom.  They can lose more seats in 2020! 

Here's an evil idea:  make all universities and public colleges tuition free only in the 7 districts held by a Republican.  The liberal students who would move to those districts could give us a 53-0 lol
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2018, 10:17:09 PM »

The funny thing is that they haven't reached rock bottom.  They can lose more seats in 2020! 

Here's an evil idea:  make all universities and public colleges tuition free only in the 7 districts held by a Republican.  The liberal students who would move to those districts could give us a 53-0 lol

Im pretty sure the remaining districts are all double digit Trump districts besides Nunes which was 9 point.
I think federally they won't lose anymore unless its a 2008 style wave or Nunes gets indicted.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2018, 10:23:16 PM »

The funny thing is that they haven't reached rock bottom.  They can lose more seats in 2020! 

Here's an evil idea:  make all universities and public colleges tuition free only in the 7 districts held by a Republican.  The liberal students who would move to those districts could give us a 53-0 lol

Im pretty sure the remaining districts are all double digit Trump districts besides Nunes which was 9 point.
I think federally they won't lose anymore unless its a 2008 style wave or Nunes gets indicted.

There is Duncan Hunter's district, but that's probably about it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2018, 10:26:00 PM »

The California GOP is now in the essentially same boat as the Wyoming Democratic Party.


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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 10:26:34 PM »

Yeah, CA-22 and CA-50 are the only two that could be remotely competitive, and if Dems didn't win them this year they won't win them anytime soon.

Redistricting in 2022 might also help the GOP slightly, since the Central Valley is growing faster than the Coast these days, although I doubt they'll regain more than 2-3 seats in the foreseeable future. And they do have more room to fall in the legislature.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 10:28:40 PM »

The funny thing is that they haven't reached rock bottom.  They can lose more seats in 2020! 

Here's an evil idea:  make all universities and public colleges tuition free only in the 7 districts held by a Republican.  The liberal students who would move to those districts could give us a 53-0 lol

Im pretty sure the remaining districts are all double digit Trump districts besides Nunes which was 9 point.
I think federally they won't lose anymore unless its a 2008 style wave or Nunes gets indicted.

There is Duncan Hunter's district, but that's probably about it.

Hunters district had a decent swing towards Clinton and I could see a special win but its still very conservative like Waukesha rather than something like orange.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 10:29:40 PM »

Stunning how this was the State that basically revived Conservatism in the US
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2018, 12:24:54 AM »
« Edited: November 27, 2018, 12:47:51 AM by Storr »

Stunning how this was the State that basically revived Conservatism in the US

California's change caused me to think of this scene in Back to the Future where Marty tells Doc Ronald Reagan was President in 1985.

Doc: Tell me, Future Boy, who's President of the United States in 1985?
Marty: Ronald Reagan.
Doc: Ronald Reagan? The actor? [rolls his eyes] Ha! Then who's vice-president, Jerry Lewis? I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady?
Marty: Whoa, wait. Doc!
Doc: And Jack Benny is Secretary of the Treasury!
Marty: Doc, you gotta listen to me!

I can only imagine that you'd receive a similar response if you told a Californian in 1985 about the current state of the California GOP. It holds no statewide offices, Democrats hold supermajorities in both chambers of the Legislature, Jerry Brown is Governor again, Democrats will hold 46 of 53 Congressional Seats starting January, Republicans haven't held a Senate seat since 1993, Arnold Schwarzenegger was the last Republican Governor, Orange County went blue in the last Presidential election, Republicans struggle and usually fail to reach 40% in statewide races, and California last went Republican for President in 1988.

I looked at by-county numbers for 1988 out of curiosity and many are inconceivable today. Remember when reading these, the race statewide was only 51.13% Bush to 47.56% Dukakis. Orange was Bush's best county in the state at 67.75%(!!!). Some other notables that went for Bush are Ventura at 61.64%, Kern at 61.48%, San Diego at 60.19%, San Bernadino at 59.99%, Riverside at 59.46%, San Luis Obispo at 55.85%, Imperial at 55.16%, Santa Barbara at 54.24%, Sacramento at 51.01%, and Napa at 50.19% (the last Bay Area county to go for a Republican Presidential nominee). The last four counties listed haven't gone Republican for President since. Contra Costa only went for Dukakis 51.10% to 47.86%, while Los Angeles only favored Dukakis 51.89% to 46.88%.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2018, 12:37:47 AM »

Stunning how this was the State that basically revived Conservatism in the US

California's change caused me to think of this scene in Back to the Future where Marty tells Doc Ronald Reagan was President in 1985.

Doc: Tell me, Future Boy, who's President of the United States in 1985?
Marty: Ronald Reagan.
Doc: Ronald Reagan? The actor? [rolls his eyes] Ha! Then who's vice-president, Jerry Lewis? I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady?
Marty: Whoa, wait. Doc!
Doc: And Jack Benny is Secretary of the Treasury!
Marty: Doc, you gotta listen to me!

I can only imagine that you'd receive a similar response if you told a Californian in 1985 about the current state of the California GOP. It holds no statewide offices, Democrats hold supermajorities in both chambers of the Legislature, Jerry Brown is Governor again, Democrats will hold 46 of 53 Congressional Seats starting January, Republicans haven't held a Senate seat since 1993, Arnold Schwarzenegger was the last Republican Governor, Orange County went blue in the last Presidential election, Republicans struggle and usually fail to reach 40% in statewide races, and California last went Republican for President in 1988.

I looked at by-county numbers for 1988 out of curiosity and many are inconceivable today. Remember when reading these, the race statewide was only 51.13% Bush to 47.56% Dukakis. Orange was Bush's best county in the state at 67.75%(!!!). Some other notables that went for Bush are Ventura at 61.64%, Kern at 61.48%, San Diego at 60.19%, San Bernadino at 59.99%, Riverside at 59.46%, San Luis Obispo at 55.85%, Imperial at 55.16%, Santa Barbara at 54.24%, Sacramento at 51.01%, and Napa at 50.19% (the last Bay Area county to go for a Republican Presidential nominee). The last four counties listed haven't gone Republican for President since. Contra Costa only went for Dukakis 51.10% to 47.86%, while Los Angeles only favored Dukakis 51.88% to 46.88%.

In the 1986 Gubernatorial Race Deukmejian won 71.89% in Orange and I dont think Reagan ever got under 67.9% in Orange .


In 1986 Deukmejian won 68.05% of the vote in Sacramento !!!, 65.17% in San Diego, 65.1% in Riverside, 63.76 in San Bernandino and 52.96% in LA.


and in 1986 CA Voters removed 3 Supreme Court justices by a 2-1 margin due to their opposition to the Death Penalty .

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2018, 12:41:16 AM »

The Blue Wave Hits Laguna Beach (warning: volume)
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 01:04:16 AM »


Young Kim was probably swept up too lol
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2018, 01:34:55 AM »

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2018, 11:54:13 AM »

AMERICA, ¡UNA!
AMERICA, ¡GRANDE!
AMERICA, ¡LIBRE!
¡ARRIBA AMERICA!
¡ARRIBA!
PROCURADOR GENERAL ULYSSES S. WEBB, ¡PRESENTE!
PROCURADOR GENERAL (Y DESPUÉS GOBERNADOR) EARL WARREN, ¡PRESENTE!
GOBERNADOR PETE WILSON, ¡PRESENTE!
CAÍDOS POR DIOS Y POR NATIVISMO, ¡PRESENTE!
¡VIVA TRUMP!
¡VIVA!

Ok, this was hilarious xD
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2018, 01:30:33 PM »

Zen fascists will control you
Hundred percent natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face
Close your eyes, can't happen here
Big Bro' on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back, you say
Mellow out or you will pay
Mellow out or you will pay
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2018, 02:03:19 PM »

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.


but solid told me dems need to be just as bad as Republicans with gerrymander
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2018, 02:55:00 PM »

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.


Gerrymandering cannot correct for fundamental demographic implosion, it can only shift stuff at the edges.

The only thing that comes close to what has happened in California over the last thirty years, is what happened to the MA GOP in the 1940's - 1970's.
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2018, 03:18:48 PM »

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.


Gerrymandering cannot correct for fundamental demographic implosion, it can only shift stuff at the edges.

The only thing that comes close to what has happened in California over the last thirty years, is what happened to the MA GOP in the 1940's - 1970's.

Or the VT GOP from the 1970's-2000's.
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2018, 04:50:28 PM »

Or the Dem Party in Arkansas.

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.


Gerrymandering cannot correct for fundamental demographic implosion, it can only shift stuff at the edges.

The only thing that comes close to what has happened in California over the last thirty years, is what happened to the MA GOP in the 1940's - 1970's.
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2018, 04:56:57 PM »

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.


Gerrymandering cannot correct for fundamental demographic implosion, it can only shift stuff at the edges.

The only thing that comes close to what has happened in California over the last thirty years, is what happened to the MA GOP in the 1940's - 1970's.
Or the Dem Party in Arkansas.
The difference is, if the Arkansas Dems gerrymandered when they still had a trifecta in 2011, they could still have a House seat if they combined Little Rock with the heavily black, Democratic counties along the Mississippi River.
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2018, 05:30:27 PM »

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.


Gerrymandering cannot correct for fundamental demographic implosion, it can only shift stuff at the edges.

The only thing that comes close to what has happened in California over the last thirty years, is what happened to the MA GOP in the 1940's - 1970's.
Or the Dem Party in Arkansas.
The difference is, if the Arkansas Dems gerrymandered when they still had a trifecta in 2011, they could still have a House seat if they combined Little Rock with the heavily black, Democratic counties along the Mississippi River.

Arkansas Democrats weren't yet ready to accept they would become a permanent minority that would get wiped off the face of the map. Can you really blame them? lol

Hell, some #populist Purple heart Atlas posters still pretend there's hope for Democrats in states like these. In 2018.
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2018, 05:32:57 PM »

Amazing how this is the result of an Independent Commission.


Gerrymandering cannot correct for fundamental demographic implosion, it can only shift stuff at the edges.

The only thing that comes close to what has happened in California over the last thirty years, is what happened to the MA GOP in the 1940's - 1970's.
Or the Dem Party in Arkansas.
The difference is, if the Arkansas Dems gerrymandered when they still had a trifecta in 2011, they could still have a House seat if they combined Little Rock with the heavily black, Democratic counties along the Mississippi River.

Arkansas Democrats weren't yet ready to accept they would become a permanent minority that would get wiped off the face of the map. Can you really blame them? lol

Hell, some #populist Purple heart Atlas posters still pretend there's hope for Democrats in states like these. In 2018.

anyway with the burb stomping of the year Clarke Tucker came pretty close this year in the little rock. Only a 5 point loss. But the rest of Arkansas is gone besides the northwest WALMART rich people who are now trending D.
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