How the Democrats took back Michigan

[Bojack Horseman]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/how-democrats-won-big-michigan-midterms/576043/

Great article about how the Democrats in Michigan learned the hard lessons of 2016 and rebuilt the party infrastructure to last.

[Green Line]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

[Dr. Arch]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

[lfromnj]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

Wisconsin assembly was a failure even if it's a gerrymander. NC was a much more brutal gerrymander yet dems made gains. It's clea4r the rust belt besides maybe pa is trending r. You only picked up like 1 seat in the assembly.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

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As long as Gary Peters win reelection, Dems are gonna win

[Mr. Reactionary]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

[Bojack Horseman]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

If you can't be bothered to know what you are voting for I have very little sympathy for you.

[Hammy]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

If you can't be bothered to know what you are voting for I have very little sympathy for you.

For most people it's not a matter of "not knowing" but saving time when they know they're voting straight ticket. Next time don't make such low-information posts.

[Nyvin]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

Wisconsin assembly was a failure even if it's a gerrymander. NC was a much more brutal gerrymander yet dems made gains. It's clea4r the rust belt besides maybe pa is trending r. You only picked up like 1 seat in the assembly.

Trending R???   They won the state senate and state house votes in both Wisconsin and Michigan easily.   In Michigan it was by 5% and in Wisconsin it was by 8%.    It's just a matter of Geography and Gerrymandering that kept the Republican majorities intact.

[Virginiá]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

Wisconsin assembly was a failure even if it's a gerrymander. NC was a much more brutal gerrymander yet dems made gains. It's clea4r the rust belt besides maybe pa is trending r. You only picked up like 1 seat in the assembly.

Trending R???   They won the state senate and state house votes in both Wisconsin and Michigan easily.   In Michigan it was by 5% and in Wisconsin it was by 8%.    It's just a matter of Geography and Gerrymandering that kept the Republican majorities intact.

It's not even like 2016 was the first time these states have had close elections in the past couple decades either, and this year doesn't really help the R-trend argument. This election also seemed to totally reverse the trend among young voters in PA/WI/MI/MN as well, sending them back to Democrats in droves, so while I can see why some would say Republicans are on the upswing there, I don't really agree. At least in the sense that such a trend is going to really deliver for the GOP.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

If you can't be bothered to know what you are voting for I have very little sympathy for you.

For most people it's not a matter of "not knowing" but saving time when they know they're voting straight ticket. Next time don't make such low-information posts.

Yeah, plus it already takes time to vote on non-partisan local councils/judges (does Michigan elect judges?  hopefully not) as well as ballot initiatives.  There's no point in checking each box if you already intended on voting for a straight ticket.  Less time spent in the voting booth means shorter voting lines.

When I voted in-person in North Carolina in 2014 I brought in a voting guide with me.  I'm not sure if that's legal or not, but I was pretty discreet.

[I Can Now Die Happy]

This wasn't a Presidential election lmao so this doesn't count as 'taking back Michigan.' BTW John James was not too far from winning as a relatively unknown and underfunded figure.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

I agree. The straight ticket option sucks. Half the dimwits that are election in state is due to this.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

As a Californian this has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. Do you know how long our ballots are? And they’re on a nonpartisan ballot that everyone gets so you have to pick and choose.

It’s no wonder Michigan is trending R. Your dumb state will probably be responsible for re-electing Trump.

[Beet]

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

As a Californian this has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. Do you know how long our ballots are? And they’re on a nonpartisan ballot that everyone gets so you have to pick and choose.

It’s no wonder Michigan is trending R. Your dumb state will probably be responsible for re-electing Trump.

It's ok Timmy, no one cares what Californians think in presidential elections. Your state will probably get Trump re-elected by delivering us Harris as the nominee.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

As a Californian this has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. Do you know how long our ballots are? And they’re on a nonpartisan ballot that everyone gets so you have to pick and choose.

It’s no wonder Michigan is trending R. Your dumb state will probably be responsible for re-electing Trump.

It's ok Timmy, no one cares what Californians think in presidential elections. Your state will probably get Trump re-elected by delivering us Harris as the nominee.

The rural white trash would probably turn out hard against her since she’s a black woman. Of course you’ll blame her loss on SJWism since you’d defend the #Populists at all costs.

[Bidenworth2020]

This wasn't a Presidential election lmao so this doesn't count as 'taking back Michigan.' BTW John James was not too far from winning as a relatively unknown and underfunded figure.

haha buddy michigan is pretty safe democrat come 2020

[pbrower2a]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

Gerrymandered to hell, just like Wisconsin.

A ballot initiative for an Independent Redistricting Comission passed 60-40 for what it's worth.

Plus they stupidly voted to mandate a straight party option on all ballots in the frickin state Constitution to help out those low information voters who dont even know what offices they are voting for.

It’s the third time Michigan voters have voted to keep straight-ticket voting, which was first implemented in the 1860s. It’s extremely convenient to be able to check one box for every office then have to check 27 boxes. Plus it has to be in the state constitution so the Republicans in the legislature can’t screw with it again.

If you can't be bothered to know what you are voting for I have very little sympathy for you.

Fittingly said about the 'low-information voters' that Donald Trump alleges to love.

[pbrower2a]

Not sure how its a “take back” when they failed to win either the State House or State Senate.

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As long as Gary Peters win reelection, Dems are gonna win

He should win. As the only non-incumbent Democrat to be elected to the US Senate in the GOP wave year of 2014, he would seem unusually strong (winning against a wave) in an electoral  year that looks unpromising for Republicans. He will be one of only two Democrats up for re-election to the Senate (the other is Doug Jones, D-Alabama) running in a state that Trump won in 2016. What will matter in the 2020 Senate election will be what states Trump loses.

In a state that Trump finds himself with disapproval ratings around 60%, defeating the Republican nominee looks like a reasonable expectation in Michigan

[Bojack Horseman]

This wasn't a Presidential election lmao so this doesn't count as 'taking back Michigan.' BTW John James was not too far from winning as a relatively unknown and underfunded figure.

Well for one the polls were spot on at D+7. Second, the Senate race showed the rural and suburban/urban divide that we’re seeing all across the country. In both the Senate and Governor races, the southern urban/suburban half of the state trended D while the northern rural areas trended R.

[I Can Now Die Happy]

This wasn't a Presidential election lmao so this doesn't count as 'taking back Michigan.' BTW John James was not too far from winning as a relatively unknown and underfunded figure.

Well for one the polls were spot on at D+7. Second, the Senate race showed the rural and suburban/urban divide that we’re seeing all across the country. In both the Senate and Governor races, the southern urban/suburban half of the state trended D while the northern rural areas trended R.

lmao how does that disprove my point?

[Virginiá]

Can't say I really enjoyed the article. It's just one of those post-election fluff pieces that doesn't really add anything new except some small details about how the candidates came to be/organized themselves.

This wasn't a Presidential election lmao so this doesn't count as 'taking back Michigan.' BTW John James was not too far from winning as a relatively unknown and underfunded figure.

Why does a presidential election count but not, say, a Governor's race? Not everything revolves around presidential elections, and in fact, that kind of race is even less relevant because it's a single federal election for a national office, whereas a sweep of state executive offices has direct and tangible impacts on the actual state in question. If anything, the failure to take back even a single chamber of the legislature (regardless of why) is more significant here.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

This wasn't a Presidential election lmao so this doesn't count as 'taking back Michigan.' BTW John James was not too far from winning as a relatively unknown and underfunded figure.

Why does a presidential election count but not, say, a Governor's race?

Because he isn't arguing in good faith.