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Question: Are Democrats are trying to "steal" the Florida race with voter fraud?
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« on: November 09, 2018, 03:02:11 PM »

Huh
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 03:48:20 PM »

Funny thing is, 'stealing' is rarely defined in these cases. Case in point: counting actual votes is now 'stealing.' It simply represents their displeasure and anxiety that they don't have it locked away, and of course pure desperation of trying to keep it in their hands.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 03:55:25 PM »

As long as we take AZ and FL I don't really care what Republicans 'think' - they can suck it up while Bill Nelson retakes his rightful place in the BLUE WALL now holding back the Trump agenda.

We're going to show Trump and his cronies as much respect as Obama got when Republicans took the house.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 03:56:51 PM »

I don't give a heck!
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 03:58:01 PM »

Not a Republican, but obviously no - Dems are not trying to "steal FL".

Anyway, if AZ and FL end up as Dem wins, it would have been a good election day after all.

The losses of Abrams and Gillum obviously hurt, but still a good night.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 04:00:21 PM »

AZ-solid No. No voter fraud just fair vote counting
FL-I see some weird stuff happening but I don't know enough. The school ballots were a bit suspicious to me.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 04:46:36 PM »

No, the system of provisional ballots were put in place to help election officials to prevent another 2000. Gillum, mostly Nelson will benefit from that.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2018, 04:51:27 PM »

AZ-solid No. No voter fraud just fair vote counting
FL-I see some weird stuff happening but I don't know enough. The school ballots were a bit suspicious to me.

I believe the school ballots were just supplies, it was a Twitter hoax
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2018, 05:00:30 PM »

AZ-solid No. No voter fraud just fair vote counting
FL-I see some weird stuff happening but I don't know enough. The school ballots were a bit suspicious to me.

I believe the school ballots were just supplies, it was a Twitter hoax

ok then I am a bit suspicious about Florida but I don't believe anything is wrong in AZ and thats just late ballots.

But can anyone explain why late ballots almost always favor democrats? Its a serious question.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2018, 05:07:43 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2018, 05:24:01 PM by Aurelio21 »

I have been several times a voluntary poll worker here in Germany. There are striking differences between how elections are executed here, and every single state in the US in between themselves.

- Georgia uses proven insecure voting machines vulnerable to cybercriminality. Here it is pure handcounting with paper ballots.
- I've watched some coverage about the Broward county procedure. They have 4!! total counting machines at the moment at use. Which leads to the question: After 2000, these problems with ballot design, malfunctioning voting machines and to few precincts for to many people in minority majority counties are quite striking.
- The Broward County election official has forbidden any observers of the press. This is not OK.

Anyone from those "voter fraud" callers has never heard anything about Occam's razor. To me, these systematic faults combined with an higher-than-usual turnout will defenitely lead to problems in the counting process. The County official are no PR experts and make everything worse. With their behaviour, they give an Impression of voter fraud.

The forgotten ballots do not look good either. But all of this is verifiable. If x voters are marked in the voter registry, there can be only x ballots.

The behaviour of Gov. Scott is telling, who should be impartial as boss of the Secretary of State. Instead of any constructive measures, the following happens:
-Sending the police into this mess by Gov. Scott to meddle in this,
-Gov. Scott alleging voter fraud without presenting any proof beside claiming that
-Only other argument: Bill Nelson has hired Hillary Clinton's lawyer. Next time I want a pay rise I'll use that tactics, too and try to associate my boss with HR, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi or Maxime Waters.
- Claiming that the county has violated election laws like frequent updating and a dead line on thursday despite the facts that the county does update the tally and the deadline is on 11/10 noon EST.
- Appearing on FOX News and repeating the accusations

This is a real witch hunt, and no fair process. Anybody who is no #MAGAdiot should acknowledge these facts.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2018, 06:55:47 PM »

Since I'm seeing more and more Republicans here say this, bump.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2018, 07:01:42 PM »

I think that the House should investigate this.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2018, 07:32:08 PM »

No one has any objection to counting actual votes, but the way Palm Beach and Broward handled this is irresponsible at best (and that’s an optimistic assessment of it), and if this was happening in Waukesha County right now and Evers was ahead by 10,000 votes, Democrats would be outraged as well (and for good reason). All Scott can do is fight fire with fire, but I doubt it will be enough. It’ll be 52R, 48D.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2018, 07:35:33 PM »

No one has any objection to counting actual votes, but the way Palm Beach and Broward handled this is irresponsible at best (and that’s an optimistic assessment of it), and if this was happening in Waukesha County right now and Evers was ahead by 10,000 votes, Democrats would be outraged as well (and for good reason). All Scott can do is fight fire with fire, but I doubt it will be enough. It’ll be 52R, 48D.

Yeah how can a ing county be this incompetent.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2018, 08:08:48 PM »

What happened in Broward County is a disgrace
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2018, 08:15:29 PM »

What happened in Broward County is a disgrace
Stripes needs a primary
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2018, 08:19:56 PM »

What happened in Broward County is a disgrace
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2018, 09:46:04 PM »
« Edited: November 10, 2018, 10:37:53 PM by Arkansas Yankee »

When the election officers will not obey Court orders, why should we not believe they are attempting to steal the election?
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2018, 10:51:01 PM »

I believe that the Boward County Election Board is incredibly incompetent.  Snipes should be booted by DeSantis. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2018, 03:59:35 AM »

When the election officers will not obey Court orders, why should we not believe they are attempting to steal the election?
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2018, 04:15:00 AM »

No one has any objection to counting actual votes, but the way Palm Beach and Broward handled this is irresponsible at best (and that’s an optimistic assessment of it), and if this was happening in Waukesha County right now and Evers was ahead by 10,000 votes, Democrats would be outraged as well (and for good reason). All Scott can do is fight fire with fire, but I doubt it will be enough. It’ll be 52R, 48D.

The ironic things is this actually happened in 2011 for the one WI Supreme Court seat and there were some Democrats who said they were holding the reporting back in Waukesha, "until they knew how many votes they would need to win the race".
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2018, 09:33:34 AM »

Dems will probably win FL in 2022 anyways and make up losses in ME, CO and NC, in 2020
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2018, 12:38:20 PM »

Yes, I absolutely believe that now given that Dems want Non-Citizens Votes to count.

I vastly disagree with Nelsons Political Decisions but he was a decent Politician representing FL. Bill, you are better than this. Stop this.
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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2018, 01:31:15 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2018, 01:43:10 PM »

When the election officers will not obey Court orders, why should we not believe they are attempting to steal the election?

Wait they violated Court Orders

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