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« on: November 07, 2018, 11:33:47 PM »
« edited: March 02, 2019, 09:09:49 AM by NYGurl »

Seriously seems like every Democrat (at least the ones I've seen are) have drifted far left on everything
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2018, 11:44:02 PM »

Is this a joke thread? Centrists and neoliberals are, unfortunately, still very much alive and well in the Party. Just look at the DNC chair, for starters.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 07:13:56 AM »

Is this a joke thread? Centrists and neoliberals are, unfortunately, still very much alive and well in the Party. Just look at the DNC chair, for starters.

Is he though? In the Obama administration he was one of the most progressive members and I'd really caution to call everyone who somewhat believes in markets a neoliberal, at that stage all Republicans (except 3 nazbol incels) and 90% of Democrats are neoliberals lol.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 07:25:27 AM »

Is this a joke thread? Centrists and neoliberals are, unfortunately, still very much alive and well in the Party. Just look at the DNC chair, for starters.

Is he though? In the Obama administration he was one of the most progressive members and I'd really caution to call everyone who somewhat believes in markets a neoliberal, at that stage all Republicans (except 3 nazbol incels) and 90% of Democrats are neoliberals lol.

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That would be a correct statement yes. Who are the 3 nazbol btw?
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2018, 08:26:36 AM »

The party is literally run by them.
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2018, 12:17:49 PM »

On economic matters?  There are some.  On social/cultural issues?  Very few.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2018, 12:22:08 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 12:25:09 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 12:34:06 PM »

Ha. Americans thinking Democrats have gone 'far left'.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2018, 12:46:07 PM »

Is this a joke thread? Centrists and neoliberals are, unfortunately, still very much alive and well in the Party. Just look at the DNC chair, for starters.

You would mean "fortunately", if you are clever...
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2018, 02:47:40 PM »

Ha. Americans thinking Democrats have gone 'far left'.
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2018, 03:14:32 PM »

Read my posts honey.
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2018, 03:51:54 PM »


I read it as a question regarding prominent elected moderates in the Democratic Party.  There are always going to be moderate voters, of course.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2018, 04:02:57 PM »

Basically the entire caucus yeah
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2018, 06:40:56 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2018, 06:44:16 PM by Lakigigar »

Even Bernie Sanders or the Greens aren't close to what the far-left is to maybe European standards. In fact, America needs left-wing politics desperately. Even if the far-left comes in power, they would only implement ideas that we Europeans already have for longer than half a century.

95% of Democrats are modern liberals, sometimes social liberals and if you're real lucky social democrats (like Warren).

(although i might have a different understanding of "moderate" than what OP was referring to. But i think in our spectrum moderate Democrats would be seen as conservative or neocon Democrats.)
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2018, 06:42:44 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2018, 12:48:40 AM »

Is this a joke thread? Centrists and neoliberals are, unfortunately, still very much alive and well in the Party. Just look at the DNC chair, for starters.

Is he though? In the Obama administration he was one of the most progressive members and I'd really caution to call everyone who somewhat believes in markets a neoliberal, at that stage all Republicans (except 3 nazbol incels) and 90% of Democrats are neoliberals lol.

The only remotely progressive member of Obama's Citigroup picked cabinet was Hilda Solis, and she still endorsed Hillary in the primary.
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2018, 12:54:48 AM »

On economic matters?  There are some.  On social/cultural issues?  Very few.
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2018, 05:38:13 AM »

On economic matters?  There are some.  On social/cultural issues?  Very few.

*looks at post, avatar, and PM score*

Something's not adding up here...

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2018, 11:36:14 AM »

On economic matters?  There are some.  On social/cultural issues?  Very few.

*looks at post, avatar, and PM score*

Something's not adding up here...



Wut LOL
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2018, 12:13:36 PM »

For you to ask this question, you must be ignoring and/or not doing enough research.
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2018, 06:17:59 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2018, 09:40:54 PM by MarkD »

Joe Manchin, Dan Lipinski, and Collin Peterson come to mind.
Here's a recent list of the Blue Dog Democrats.
Blue Dog Coalition.

Although I happen to think that a number of people on that list are pretty liberal. Nonetheless, definitely say that Manchin, Lipinski, and Peterson are moderate.

EDIT: Add Tim Ryan to the list.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2018, 03:06:07 AM »

Sure, just not many on this forum any more apparently.
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2018, 04:49:52 AM »

Much less then even 10 years ago, obviously. Almost nobody (Manchin, Peterson, Lipinski, and that's, eesentially, all) in Congress, JBE - among governors, some state legislators. But, because of collapse of the party in rural areas and among WWC - relatively few even there. Even "Blue Dogs" of present are a shadow of their counterparts 10 years ago (Bright, Griffith, Minnick, even Childers and Cazayoux). There are at most 10 Democrats in all state legislatures, whom i would call "moderate conservatives", and not a single one - as simply "conservative".
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2018, 01:06:10 AM »

On economic matters?  There are some.  On social/cultural issues?  Very few.

*looks at post, avatar, and PM score*

Something's not adding up here...



Wut LOL

You say Democrats have economic centrists but no social centrists. Your PM score says you are an economic centrist and a social liberal. Yet you have a blue avatar.
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