Parental Consent on abortion

[Alexander Hamilton]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

[War on Want]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

[useful idiot]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

[Alexander Hamilton]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

Yeah... Doctors are so professional, right?

I can't go get a medicinal marijuana card for my "back pain" right now, can I?
I can't go get me some Vicodin?

[War on Want]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Personally I have absolutley no problem with ending life in the womb, during the first trimester but that's besides the point. I'd rather have things be very broad when it comes to health complications granting minors the option to abort without parental consent, than having things very restricted when it comes to health complications.

[War on Want]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

Yeah... Doctors are so professional, right?

I can't go get a medicinal marijuana card for my "back pain" right now, can I?
I can't go get me some Vicodin?

The reason why the bottom two things being so easy to obtain is much more complex than doctors being unprofessional.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

[useful idiot]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

No, you shouldn't.

And if do so, you should be charged with murder just as if you had killed a child outside the womb.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

No, you shouldn't.

And if do so, you should be charged with murder just as if you had killed a child outside the womb.

yes SHE should have that right. and it is not murder!!!! it isnt even a baby yet. and cells die all the time. when you scratch or shave. It is the same thing. IT IS JUST A CELL!!  why are you trying to infringe upon someone right? you are an idiot.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

No, you shouldn't.

And if do so, you should be charged with murder just as if you had killed a child outside the womb.

yes SHE should have that right. and it is not murder!!!! it isnt even a baby yet. and cells die all the time. when you scratch or shave. It is the same thing. IT IS JUST A CELL!!  why are you trying to infringe upon someone right? you are an idiot.

we are all just cells. lets just kill everyone.

[useful idiot]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

A perfect example of moral decay and the shirking of responsibility that's unfortunately become commonplace in our society.

Some more morally conscious individuals might say that not having sex is better than taking a life. The health debate comes into play when you're talking about choosing to protect the life or livelihood of the mother over having her carry the child to term. It is, in my mind, the only justifiable excuse for abortion.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

No, you shouldn't.

And if do so, you should be charged with murder just as if you had killed a child outside the womb.

yes SHE should have that right. and it is not murder!!!! it isnt even a baby yet. and cells die all the time. when you scratch or shave. It is the same thing. IT IS JUST A CELL!!  why are you trying to infringe upon someone right? you are an idiot.

As good an argument as you might be in favor of abortion for eugenic purposes to raise the average human IQ, no, sorry, abortion is still murder.

[useful idiot]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

No, you shouldn't.

And if do so, you should be charged with murder just as if you had killed a child outside the womb.

yes SHE should have that right. and it is not murder!!!! it isnt even a baby yet. and cells die all the time. when you scratch or shave. It is the same thing. IT IS JUST A CELL!!  why are you trying to infringe upon someone right? you are an idiot.

Abortion is an infringement of someone's right...their inalienable right to life.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

No, you shouldn't.

And if do so, you should be charged with murder just as if you had killed a child outside the womb.

yes SHE should have that right. and it is not murder!!!! it isnt even a baby yet. and cells die all the time. when you scratch or shave. It is the same thing. IT IS JUST A CELL!!  why are you trying to infringe upon someone right? you are an idiot.

As good an argument as you might be in favor of abortion for eugenic purposes to raise the average human IQ, no, sorry, abortion is still murder.

funny but not even. What you just said is just saying, "it is this way because i said so". And sorry I am not for eugenic. If anything I would be against it since I like dumbs.

Yes.  But if the minor has been raped or if her life and/or future reproductive health are in jeopardy...exceptions should be allowed.

Well, I'd agree that exceptions for health should be allowed obviously... Which sort of renders the debate moot since minors by definition are at greater risk for serious complications.

health=discomfort=a slight headache, etc.

I'm sure a doctor would be the one to decide whether the possible health complication was serious enough to warrant an abortion...

There are lots of(almost all I would assume) abortion doctors abortionists who think ending life in the womb is perfectly ok for no reason at all, so I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem giving the go ahead on an abortion for bogus health reasons...

Fixed.

Actually yeah, the word "doctor" probably shouldn't be used in their case except as part of their title for having completed a doctorate.

you should be able to have an abortion if you just don't want the kid. what is this health crap? For whatever reason makes her choose abortion is a legit reason. Health has nothing to do with it.

No, you shouldn't.

And if do so, you should be charged with murder just as if you had killed a child outside the womb.

yes SHE should have that right. and it is not murder!!!! it isnt even a baby yet. and cells die all the time. when you scratch or shave. It is the same thing. IT IS JUST A CELL!!  why are you trying to infringe upon someone right? you are an idiot.

Abortion is an infringement of someone's right...their inalienable right to life.

It is a cell!!!! omg what is so confusing about a cell? it is not even a complex enough cell to be considered a human being. It cant breath. do you know the requirement for all living things to be considered living?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

funny but not even. What you just said is just saying, "it is this way because i said so". And sorry I am not for eugenic. If anything I would be against it since I like dumbs.

But of course, that's not at all surprising.

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Please get sterilized so this never has to become an issue with you. You will be doing humanity a favor.

[useful idiot]

It is a cell!!!! omg what is so confusing about a cell? it is not even a complex enough cell to be considered a human being. It cant breath. do you know the requirement for all living things to be considered living?

As stated earlier we are all just collections of cells. By your logic none of us are entitled to individual rights. The level of simplicity you're talking about is never true of a fertilized embryo, and it could only be described as "simple" in the absolute earliest stages of pregnancy, when most often women don't even realize they are pregnant.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

It is a cell!!!! omg what is so confusing about a cell? it is not even a complex enough cell to be considered a human being. It cant breath. do you know the requirement for all living things to be considered living?

As stated earlier we are all just collections of cells. By your logic none of us are entitled to individual rights. The level of simplicity you're talking about is never true of a fertilized embryo, and it could only be described as "simple" in the absolute earliest stages of pregnancy, when most often women don't even realize they are pregnant.

when i mean simple i mean no organs etc. Cant can be described as a living thing but the characteristics of a living thing in science.

[useful idiot]

It is a cell!!!! omg what is so confusing about a cell? it is not even a complex enough cell to be considered a human being. It cant breath. do you know the requirement for all living things to be considered living?

As stated earlier we are all just collections of cells. By your logic none of us are entitled to individual rights. The level of simplicity you're talking about is never true of a fertilized embryo, and it could only be described as "simple" in the absolute earliest stages of pregnancy, when most often women don't even realize they are pregnant.

when i mean simple i mean no organs etc. Cant can be described as a living thing but the characteristics of a living thing in science.

Plenty of living things don't have organs in the sense that fully developed human beings do. From the time fertilization occurs the embryo is in fact a "developing" human being. The fact that it is not yet fully functioning does not diminish its status as a human.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

It is a cell!!!! omg what is so confusing about a cell? it is not even a complex enough cell to be considered a human being. It cant breath. do you know the requirement for all living things to be considered living?

As stated earlier we are all just collections of cells. By your logic none of us are entitled to individual rights. The level of simplicity you're talking about is never true of a fertilized embryo, and it could only be described as "simple" in the absolute earliest stages of pregnancy, when most often women don't even realize they are pregnant.

when i mean simple i mean no organs etc. Cant can be described as a living thing but the characteristics of a living thing in science.

Plenty of living things don't have organs in the sense that fully developed human beings do. From the time fertilization occurs the embryo is in fact a "developing" human being. The fact that it is not yet fully functioning does not diminish its status as a human.

but it does, at least in my opinion.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     No, I don't see any reason to require parental consent.

[useful idiot]

It is a cell!!!! omg what is so confusing about a cell? it is not even a complex enough cell to be considered a human being. It cant breath. do you know the requirement for all living things to be considered living?

As stated earlier we are all just collections of cells. By your logic none of us are entitled to individual rights. The level of simplicity you're talking about is never true of a fertilized embryo, and it could only be described as "simple" in the absolute earliest stages of pregnancy, when most often women don't even realize they are pregnant.

when i mean simple i mean no organs etc. Cant can be described as a living thing but the characteristics of a living thing in science.

Plenty of living things don't have organs in the sense that fully developed human beings do. From the time fertilization occurs the embryo is in fact a "developing" human being. The fact that it is not yet fully functioning does not diminish its status as a human.

but it does, at least in my opinion.

But why? It is an undeveloped human being, I don't understand how that is debatable. I almost have a modicum of respect for those who acknowledge that it's a human being but would ask the question "Why is it wrong to kill a human being and when should we kill a human being?" rather than saying because it doesn't have all the qualities of a fully functioning post-partum human it isn't a human in any respect, because at least they call a spade a spade...

[Associate Justice PiT]

It is a cell!!!! omg what is so confusing about a cell? it is not even a complex enough cell to be considered a human being. It cant breath. do you know the requirement for all living things to be considered living?

As stated earlier we are all just collections of cells. By your logic none of us are entitled to individual rights. The level of simplicity you're talking about is never true of a fertilized embryo, and it could only be described as "simple" in the absolute earliest stages of pregnancy, when most often women don't even realize they are pregnant.

when i mean simple i mean no organs etc. Cant can be described as a living thing but the characteristics of a living thing in science.

Plenty of living things don't have organs in the sense that fully developed human beings do. From the time fertilization occurs the embryo is in fact a "developing" human being. The fact that it is not yet fully functioning does not diminish its status as a human.

but it does, at least in my opinion.

But why? It is an undeveloped human being, I don't understand how that is debatable. I almost have a modicum of respect for those who acknowledge that it's a human being but would ask the question "Why is it wrong to kill a human being and when should we kill a human being?" rather than saying because it doesn't have all the qualities of a fully functioning post-partum human it isn't a human in any respect, because at least they call a spade a spade...

     Humanity carries with it certain emotional connotations, so abortion rights advocates fear it being used as a wedge for appeal to emotion. I, however, recognize a fetus as human & simultaneously reject the idea that it has a right to be free from aggression.

[Alexander Hamilton]

A five-year old is technically an undeveloped human being.