The Chronicle of the Death of the Atlasian Right (VERY VERY VERY DEAD!)

[Lumine]

No offense to people but I think it would be rather delusional to characterize the present situation of much - not all - of the federal government institutions as active, even by the bare minimum of standards in some cases. And if it was believed - as some appear to do - that the present situation was one of efficiency and activity, may I ask what the standards would be to determine inactivity?

[fhtagn]

One will notice the most productive House was when I was Dpeaker? Coincidence? I think not!

No, it was a coincidence seeing as how Federalists wrote something like 2/3rds of all bills that session. Plus you had the benefit of an active Deputy who helped keep the floor moving and whipped votes. Given how few bills are being drafted now that Labor/left controls both houses is a pretty good indication that you can't claim most of the credit for the 59 bills/resolutions passed in the 13th.

In case you weren't aware, I haven't been in Congress until yesterday. And the bill count slumped when fhtagn was Speaker. Any objective assessment would be that I did a great job.

Any objective assessment would see that I was the one making almost all of the floor motions and keeping things moving in the 13th Congress (on the House end).  The left deserves no credit for the 13th Congress because they didn't really contribute anything, despite having a majority.

And the slump in bill counts after that were because most of what Mr. R and I planned to accomplish already passed in the previous Congress, and we were still the main contributors in the 14th. Y'all had every opportunity to write bills, and like always, decided to do nothing instead, despite campaigning on several issues. Even you had these elaborate campaigns on big issues you'd fight for, and you wrote like 3 bills.

Your signature may have been on House bills passed in the 13th Congress, but anyone who paid attention knows you did nothing to deserve credit.

[OSR stands with Israel]

One will notice the most productive House was when I was Dpeaker? Coincidence? I think not!

No, it was a coincidence seeing as how Federalists wrote something like 2/3rds of all bills that session. Plus you had the benefit of an active Deputy who helped keep the floor moving and whipped votes. Given how few bills are being drafted now that Labor/left controls both houses is a pretty good indication that you can't claim most of the credit for the 59 bills/resolutions passed in the 13th.

In case you weren't aware, I haven't been in Congress until yesterday. And the bill count slumped when fhtagn was Speaker. Any objective assessment would be that I did a great job.

The only reason for the bill slump during Fhtagn's speakership was due to Sestak and his Laborites voting down everything that reached the Senate.

Yah Senate Laborites decided to become Harry Reid  and Obstruct bills that passed the house . For example my tax bill passed the house twice and they voted it down twice.

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Y'all are idiots if you genuinely think that any sort of bill slump is solely due to who was speaker, or who was president, or because 'the party I disagree with is worse at getting bills through.' There are lots of variables at play (how many bills the citizens are writing, the individual beliefs of the representatives, whether or not bills are being rushed, etc.) You can't just look at who was president or speaker or the CEO of the McDonald's at the time, because it's not accurate, and doesn't say too much about the actual bills being passed.

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[Pericles]

Y'all are idiots if you genuinely think that any sort of bill slump is solely due to who was speaker, or who was president, or because 'the party I disagree with is worse at getting bills through.' There are lots of variables at play (how many bills the citizens are writing, the individual beliefs of the representatives, whether or not bills are being rushed, etc.) You can't just look at who was president or speaker or the CEO of the McDonald's at the time, because it's not accurate, and doesn't say too much about the actual bills being passed.

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Oh I don't deserve all the credit but saying the Speaker deserves no credit is wrong and they certainly an make a positive impact if they are competent and dedicated as I was. So I think it's reasonable to give me some credit and hold speakers accountable for activity.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Y'all are idiots if you genuinely think that any sort of bill slump is solely due to who was speaker, or who was president, or because 'the party I disagree with is worse at getting bills through.' There are lots of variables at play (how many bills the citizens are writing, the individual beliefs of the representatives, whether or not bills are being rushed, etc.) You can't just look at who was president or speaker or the CEO of the McDonald's at the time, because it's not accurate, and doesn't say too much about the actual bills being passed.

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Oh I don't deserve all the credit but saying the Speaker deserves no credit is wrong and they certainly an make a positive impact if they are competent and dedicated as I was. So I think it's reasonable to give me some credit and hold speakers accountable for activity.

Fhtagn had to fill in for you at times I seem to remember when you were speaker because you didn't always do everything.Also the speaker is only a procedural office they aren't tasked with writing legislation.

[Pericles]

Y'all are idiots if you genuinely think that any sort of bill slump is solely due to who was speaker, or who was president, or because 'the party I disagree with is worse at getting bills through.' There are lots of variables at play (how many bills the citizens are writing, the individual beliefs of the representatives, whether or not bills are being rushed, etc.) You can't just look at who was president or speaker or the CEO of the McDonald's at the time, because it's not accurate, and doesn't say too much about the actual bills being passed.

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Oh I don't deserve all the credit but saying the Speaker deserves no credit is wrong and they certainly an make a positive impact if they are competent and dedicated as I was. So I think it's reasonable to give me some credit and hold speakers accountable for activity.

Fhtagn had to fill in for you at times I seem to remember when you were speaker because you didn't always do everything.Also the speaker is only a procedural office they aren't tasked with writing legislation.

Well of course I don't deserve all the credit. However Congress would have been far less successful without my hard work. And it's nottenable to say the Speaker should get no credit. Furthermore I was the vast majority if the time on top of stiff, I think fhtagn was trying to undermine me by doing motions right away when I was temporarily occupied by rl concerns and would have done it an hour later anyway. The fact is I invited members to give feedback and they consistently gave me positive comments on how I'd been doing. The one opposing example was when fhtagn chose to attack my performance on the public Discord when  nobody, including her, had ever tried to raise the concerns she gave in private and actually try and make Congress work better if they were so concerned. So it's pretty clear to me fhtagn's ego just can't handle that I did a fine job as Speaker.

[fhtagn]

Y'all are idiots if you genuinely think that any sort of bill slump is solely due to who was speaker, or who was president, or because 'the party I disagree with is worse at getting bills through.' There are lots of variables at play (how many bills the citizens are writing, the individual beliefs of the representatives, whether or not bills are being rushed, etc.) You can't just look at who was president or speaker or the CEO of the McDonald's at the time, because it's not accurate, and doesn't say too much about the actual bills being passed.

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Oh I don't deserve all the credit but saying the Speaker deserves no credit is wrong and they certainly an make a positive impact if they are competent and dedicated as I was. So I think it's reasonable to give me some credit and hold speakers accountable for activity.

Fhtagn had to fill in for you at times I seem to remember when you were speaker because you didn't always do everything.Also the speaker is only a procedural office they aren't tasked with writing legislation.

Well of course I don't deserve all the credit. However Congress would have been far less successful without my hard work. And it's nottenable to say the Speaker should get no credit. Furthermore I was the vast majority if the time on top of stiff, I think fhtagn was trying to undermine me by doing motions right away when I was temporarily occupied by rl concerns and would have done it an hour later anyway. The fact is I invited members to give feedback and they consistently gave me positive comments on how I'd been doing. The one opposing example was when fhtagn chose to attack my performance on the public Discord when  nobody, including her, had ever tried to raise the concerns she gave in private and actually try and make Congress work better if they were so concerned. So it's pretty clear to me fhtagn's ego just can't handle that I did a fine job as Speaker.

The fact that you think me keeping things moving at the necessary pace to get the record we got in the 13th Congress was some way of undermining you just shows how arrogant you are.

And once again, we got that record because the Federalists were the ones doing all the work. It was clear you and the rest of the leftists that had the majority at the time weren't interested in writing bills and keeping things moving. 

[Pericles]

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Anyway the idea that the Federalists should get 100% of the credit whenever something good happens is arrogant, delusional, and just plain wrong(as fhtagn would say anyone paying attention would know that). And it just goesro show how impressed the Atlasian people were with Speaker fhatgn that they re-elected her resoundingly-no wait they fired her and now she has to resort to recalling her own parties Senators to try and grab an office again. Sad!

[Mr. Reactionary]

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Anyway the idea that the Federalists should get 100% of the credit whenever something good happens is arrogant, delusional, and just plain wrong(as fhtagn would say anyone paying attention would know that). And it just goesro show how impressed the Atlasian people were with Speaker fhatgn that they re-elected her resoundingly-no wait they fired her and now she has to resort to recalling her own parties Senators to try and grab an office again. Sad!

No one is saying that the Federalists get 100% of the credit. The left wrote like 15% of the bills afterall.

[fhtagn]

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Anyway the idea that the Federalists should get 100% of the credit whenever something good happens is arrogant, delusional, and just plain wrong(as fhtagn would say anyone paying attention would know that). And it just goesro show how impressed the Atlasian people were with Speaker fhatgn that they re-elected her resoundingly-no wait they fired her and now she has to resort to recalling her own parties Senators to try and grab an office again. Sad!

We do deserve the credit for the 13th Congress.  That's just a fact. If it wasn't for us, we wouldn't have broken any records for bills passed. That session iirc you wrote two bills. OneJ didn't write a single bill. Razze didn't write a single bill. weatherboy didn't write a single bill. Peebs didnt write a single bill. Most of the worst offenders of missed votes came from the leftist slate. Why should the left get any credit for that when it's obvious they didn't contribute?

And if you think me losing was a matter of folks not electing me, you're grossly uninformed. Several late voters who would have otherwise voted to save me voted for other candidates because I asked them to. Several folks involved can vouch for me on this. Unlike you, I'm willing to put my party members above myself. That's what makes a good party leader, and why unlike PUP, we aren't dead.

You are also incredibly uninformed about the Lechasseur recall. He had not logged into the forum for quite some time, and in that time, the South had been lacking any representation in the Senate. At the time of the recall petition, we had no knowledge of Lechasseur's situation, and as Southerners, we felt the need to take action. Also unlike you, I'm willing to hold my party members accountable when they're inactive. We don't prop up do-nothing officeholders for the highest office you can be elected to in game. Even weatherboy admits he achieved nothing in game prior to running, but somehow you thought that made him qualified.

Had Lechasseur not come back, there were other folks who expressed interest in running for the seat, and they can vouch that I had told them to go for it if they wanted to. You don't really have any room to make false accusations about me when you literally deregistered just so you can skip a region lock and run for a seat in Fremont.

I suggest getting over this unhealthy obsession and delusional assumptions about me, Pericles. To be completely honest, it's a bit creepy.

[wxtransit]

Can we all just cut it out? This is an internet forum, not CNN. There's no reason for any of you to get personal here.

[YE]

Can we all just cut it out? This is an internet forum, not CNN. There's no reason for any of you to get personal here.

[Lumine]

Enough. I have already edited a post regarding a personal attack - beyond legitimate criticism -, and will do so if it continues.

[ajwiopjawefoiwefnwn]

Can we all just cut it out? This is an internet forum, not CNN. There's no reason for any of you to get personal here.

Almost as if this isn't a game...

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

What would Atlasia be without its annoying personal feuds?

A much better place

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

What would Atlasia be without its annoying personal feuds?

A much better place

Now Razze, think of all the poor, lonely sociopaths who would have nothing to fill their endless days without sh*tting on people on Discord!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well this thread certainly went places.

Credit for the success of the 13th Congress should go to all five of the leadership team of Congress. We can quibble over what proportions each contributed but the fact of the matter is that together those five people produced the most productive Congress in the history of the game. More productive than any pre-reset Congress, not just post-reset.

What we should be doing is examining the things that made that congress a success. And then seeking to maintain/improve/restore them.

1. Skillful administration cumulatively by a team of people (VP, PPT/Speaker, Deputies)
2. The presence of people devoted to policy and and a deep interest in the issues
3. The engagement on multiple fronts of the administration.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Updated OP. Leftist majority in the House, Senate, and Lincoln Assembly elected. Feds will have just 3 seats in the House, just 2 in the Senate, and 0 in the Lincoln Assembly. The sole good thing for feds was the reelection of Senator North Carolina Yankee, who was not seriously challenged, and even he watched nearly a quarter of the vote be cast for a leftist challenger who had little name recognition and little campaign presence - a stronger opponent could have done far more. The other two Senate races were solid wins for the left.

Truly, one can now see that the right is indeed Dead. Let's look forward to another amazing installment of the Weatherboy Presidency!!!!!!!!

[KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸]

Truly, one can now see that the right is indeed Dead. Let's look forward to another amazing installment of the Weatherboy Presidency!!!!!!!!

There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man.

It is a dimension of lies as vast as space and as timeless as infinity.

It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, between a pro-tempore's backwards legislation and a president who lacks any. It lies between the pit of a Laborite's fears, and the lack of his knowledge.

This is the dimension of delusion.

It is an area which we call...The Atlasia Zone.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Man, I miss when the left was dead and things made sense.

[Wisconsin+17]

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Same with the South. The left doesn't care if nothing gets done so long as they get to decide what nothing happens. SSDD.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Updated with RFA09's win in the fremont parliament election

[KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸]

Alright, listen, Wulfric. Listen closely, I don't like repeating myself.

Your constant yappings about how the right is completely dead, how Labor is the ultimate party, how everything will be like this forever end right here, right now. The idea that any party will remain in power for eternity is foolish. A Fed could've just as easily said the same thing back in early to mid 2018 when Labor had no seats in either branch in Congress, and when Labor had little power in the regional governments. But Labor has arisen, as you can see. But Labor will lose its grace. It will fall. Enjoy your cocktails and power while you still have it. The fact that a race between a Fed and a Laborite in such a titanium L region in Fremont can be close is proof that y'all should move into panic mode ASAP. Because trust me, this "red wave" we're experiencing is a thin balloon rising and rising in the air, and it will pop. You better invest in some parachutes, because you're about to fall.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Alright, listen, Wulfric. Listen closely, I don't like repeating myself.

Your constant yappings about how the right is completely dead, how Labor is the ultimate party, how everything will be like this forever end right here, right now. The idea that any party will remain in power for eternity is foolish. A Fed could've just as easily said the same thing back in early to mid 2018 when Labor had no seats in either branch in Congress, and when Labor had little power in the regional governments. But Labor has arisen, as you can see. But Labor will lose its grace. It will fall. Enjoy your cocktails and power while you still have it. The fact that a race between a Fed and a Laborite in such a titanium L region in Fremont can be close is proof that y'all should move into panic mode ASAP. Because trust me, this "red wave" we're experiencing is a thin balloon rising and rising in the air, and it will pop. You better invest in some parachutes, because you're about to fall.

It was only close because it was a little-known write-in candidate, whose candidacy the left wasn't even aware of until voting had already begun. That they were able to scramble up the votes quite literally at the last minute for someone people didn't even know is really something. If Labor had a more high profile candidate, or potentially if RFA09 had simply declared his candidacy in advance, you would have lost by more. Also, 12 points is not really close.