NYT: white liberals to the left of blacks on some racial issues

[Matty]

[url][https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1052939850754732032/url]

[KingSweden]

Unsurprising honestly. Many black voters are Democratic for parochial rather than ifeological reasons

[Santander]

Unsurprising honestly. Many black voters are Democratic for parochial rather than ifeological reasons

LOL how dare you suggest such a thing as a white man.

[IceSpear]

Unsurprising honestly. Many black voters are Democratic for parochial rather than ifeological reasons

If by "parochial reasons" you mean "because the GOP is full of Racist Hicks who hate black people", then yes.

[Yellowhammer]

白左 are a peculiar people.

[Devout Centrist]

Does no one remember Cosby’s Pound Cake speech??

[JA]

There are instructional, cultural, and individual reasons that lead to disportportionate African American impoverishment. It feels like most White Liberals disregard or at least dramatically downplay any non-institutional influences upon African American poverty; while that is unquestionably the primary cause, its not the exclusive cause. There is a wide reaching culture wherein obtaining and keeping a paid job makes you a sellout, that drug dealing and other criminal behavior is more socially acceptable, and that conforming to the standards of hard work, determination, and saving money make you “less” than the others in your community, as an African American.

It goes beyond just institutional issues, but it does have its roots in institutional issues.

[Hammy]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

白左 are a peculiar people.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

This

[Xing]

I mean, if your point of this thread and diving into studies like this is to prove that white liberals are very far to the left, congrats I guess, but it still shows that a majority of blacks believe racial discrimination is the main reason why it's harder to get ahead.

[RI]

Hey look, it's that 20-35% of blacks who hold conservative views (but supposedly vote Dem anyway) number popping up again. I really wish I had the money/resources to fund a poll.

[darklordoftech]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

[HillGoose]

I mean yeah, my fiancee is half black and she would disagree with the first one and agree with the second one for sure.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

[Boss_Rahm]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

[Green Line]

White liberals are the most racist people in America.  They don't believe black people can succeed in a color blind society.  It absolutely disgusts me.

[Person Man]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

Agreed. This is dumb.

[Person Man]

White liberals are the most racist people in America.  They don't believe black people can succeed in a color blind society.  It absolutely disgusts me.

Its racist to call racists racist and somehow being too offended is a Democrat problem. 

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

[Green Line]

White liberals are the most racist people in America.  They don't believe black people can succeed in a color blind society.  It absolutely disgusts me.

Its racist to call racists racist and somehow being too offended is a Democrat problem. 

When you're too "woke" even for minorities, its time too look in the mirror and say damn nobody is buying this crap anymore.

[ON Progressive]

What was the point of this study? Of course when you compare an entire ethnic group to a subset of another within a single ideological range, there's going to be some differences because conservative blacks do exist, where conservative white liberals (by the definition of them being liberal) don't. Let's see where whites and blacks as a whole, or liberal whites vs liberal blacks, stand on this, otherwise it's nothing more than evidence created to back up a predetermined narrative.

[Person Man]

Hey look, it's that 20-35% of blacks who hold conservative views (but supposedly vote Dem anyway) number popping up again. I really wish I had the money/resources to fund a poll.

It’s almost as if these people are reluctant to vote for people who metaphorically call them n——-s

You think we should start using the n word?

[courts]

There are instructional, cultural, and individual reasons that lead to disportportionate African American impoverishment. It feels like most White Liberals disregard or at least dramatically downplay any non-institutional influences upon African American poverty; while that is unquestionably the primary cause, its not the exclusive cause. There is a wide reaching culture wherein obtaining and keeping a paid job makes you a sellout, that drug dealing and other criminal behavior is more socially acceptable, and that conforming to the standards of hard work, determination, and saving money make you “less” than the others in your community, as an African American.

It goes beyond just institutional issues, but it does have its roots in institutional issues.

yeah economic discrimination is still very real. but i think people downplay other problems like deterioration of the family or growing dislocation of american life. or at least the progressive crowd does

[Person Man]

There are instructional, cultural, and individual reasons that lead to disportportionate African American impoverishment. It feels like most White Liberals disregard or at least dramatically downplay any non-institutional influences upon African American poverty; while that is unquestionably the primary cause, its not the exclusive cause. There is a wide reaching culture wherein obtaining and keeping a paid job makes you a sellout, that drug dealing and other criminal behavior is more socially acceptable, and that conforming to the standards of hard work, determination, and saving money make you “less” than the others in your community, as an African American.

It goes beyond just institutional issues, but it does have its roots in institutional issues.

yeah economic discrimination is still very real. but i think people downplay other problems like deterioration of the family or growing dislocation of american life. or at least the progressive crowd does

It's really hard when your folks divorce. I've been there. It was probably for the best though I was very alone for a long time.