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« Reply #750 on: December 29, 2018, 08:46:06 PM »

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« Reply #751 on: December 30, 2018, 05:30:29 AM »

It's pretty weird to not have your HQ in your home state, I mean Kamala has virtually no ties to Atlanta or Baltimore. Is being in the Eastern timezone that important?
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« Reply #752 on: December 30, 2018, 06:19:58 AM »

Not sure if it's newsworthy, but it appears the domain for kamalaforpresident.com has been bought.
She is definitely running.
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« Reply #753 on: December 30, 2018, 06:57:38 AM »

It's pretty weird to not have your HQ in your home state, I mean Kamala has virtually no ties to Atlanta or Baltimore. Is being in the Eastern timezone that important?

Many candidates in the past have had their HQ in DC or the DC suburbs.  E.g., that's how McCain handled this time zone problem.
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« Reply #754 on: December 30, 2018, 07:21:16 AM »

It's pretty weird to not have your HQ in your home state, I mean Kamala has virtually no ties to Atlanta or Baltimore. Is being in the Eastern timezone that important?

Many candidates in the past have had their HQ in DC or the DC suburbs.  E.g., that's how McCain handled this time zone problem.


Baltimore makes sense for the reason you mention. But Altanta is a head-scratcher.
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« Reply #755 on: December 30, 2018, 08:11:25 AM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.
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« Reply #756 on: December 30, 2018, 10:12:41 AM »

Also there’s an idea that you should get out of the DC bubble by having your HQ somewhere else. Not sure how effective that is now though as twitter exists.
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« Reply #757 on: December 30, 2018, 10:30:46 AM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.
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« Reply #758 on: December 30, 2018, 11:18:12 AM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.

Atlanta has a higher percentage of black people than Chicago, and Baltimore has an even higher than both.
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« Reply #759 on: December 30, 2018, 11:19:13 AM »

Angelina Jolie running for President?

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=post;topic=303677.750;num_replies=759

https://www.businessinsider.com/angelina-jolie-hints-run-for-president-2018-12
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« Reply #760 on: December 30, 2018, 12:32:47 PM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.

Definitely not, in fact northern cities like Chicago are experiencing a reverse great migration due to gentrification and crime. Atlanta on the other hand has the most black-owned businesses per capita, lower black unemployment and lower cost of living.
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« Reply #761 on: December 30, 2018, 12:33:16 PM »

McAuliffe on 2020:

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/423229-mcauliffe-says-hes-obviously-looking-at-2020-run

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It looks like that was changed back once people noticed, which makes it even more likely that this is being done in preparation for a presidential run:

https://twitter.com/MattOrtega/status/1079197689689137153
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« Reply #762 on: December 30, 2018, 12:45:49 PM »

McAuliffe on 2020:

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/423229-mcauliffe-says-hes-obviously-looking-at-2020-run

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It looks like that was changed back once people noticed, which makes it even more likely that this is being done in preparation for a presidential run:

https://twitter.com/MattOrtega/status/1079197689689137153

It was just changed back again, dropping the "for MA". She's running.
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« Reply #763 on: December 30, 2018, 01:31:58 PM »

McAuliffe on 2020:

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/423229-mcauliffe-says-hes-obviously-looking-at-2020-run

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It looks like that was changed back once people noticed, which makes it even more likely that this is being done in preparation for a presidential run:

https://twitter.com/MattOrtega/status/1079197689689137153

McAuliffe = John Kasich 2.0 (dem version)
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« Reply #764 on: December 30, 2018, 01:36:59 PM »

McAuliffe on 2020:

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/423229-mcauliffe-says-hes-obviously-looking-at-2020-run

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It looks like that was changed back once people noticed, which makes it even more likely that this is being done in preparation for a presidential run:

https://twitter.com/MattOrtega/status/1079197689689137153

McAuliffe = John Kasich 2.0 (dem version)
Not really.  A lot of people I know think of Kasich as an essentially good guy.  McAuliffe's connections to the Clintons likely rule out that image of him.
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« Reply #765 on: December 30, 2018, 06:53:16 PM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

Yep, makes sense for Kamala to lay a claim to the early Southern primaries.
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« Reply #766 on: December 30, 2018, 07:07:43 PM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.

Definitely not, in fact northern cities like Chicago are experiencing a reverse great migration due to gentrification and crime. Atlanta on the other hand has the most black-owned businesses per capita, lower black unemployment and lower cost of living.

Yeah, Atlanta has been known, and still is, as the “Black Mecca”. In addition to this, Chicago is only like 1/3 black and the black population there is declining.
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« Reply #767 on: December 30, 2018, 08:49:37 PM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.

It is. Please don't believe these costal dems.
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« Reply #768 on: December 30, 2018, 10:25:29 PM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.

It is. Please don't believe these costal dems.
No it's not. You don't even know what you're talking about. LOL.
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« Reply #769 on: December 30, 2018, 10:42:21 PM »

Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.

It is. Please don't believe these costal dems.

What about Chicago makes it the de facto capital of black America, besides conservatives using the murder rate to dog whistle about "black on black crime"?

And I live in Ohio.....
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« Reply #770 on: December 30, 2018, 11:09:43 PM »

I love how we're debating which city is the de-facto African American culture capital of the US, meanwhile, Kamala is revolutionizing the Southern Strategy to ensure a nomination.

Never change, fellow Democrats.
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« Reply #771 on: December 30, 2018, 11:11:39 PM »

I love how we're debating which city is the de-facto African American culture capital of the US, meanwhile, Kamala is revolutionizing the Southern Strategy to ensure a nomination.

Never change, fellow Democrats.

Huh

Shes basing herself in Atlanta. We dont even know what her plan is or how it will be executed. For all we know, she doesnt win the Black vote. Lets save the revolutionary strategy talk until after we see the nominee.
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« Reply #772 on: December 30, 2018, 11:15:02 PM »

I love how we're debating which city is the de-facto African American culture capital of the US, meanwhile, Kamala is revolutionizing the Southern Strategy to ensure a nomination.

Never change, fellow Democrats.

Huh

Shes basing herself in Atlanta. We dont even know what her plan is or how it will be executed. For all we know, she doesnt win the Black vote. Lets save the revolutionary strategy talk until after we see the nominee.

Not that she's revolutionary herself, but that if this is her plan of action - she's revolutionizing the idea of the Southern Strategy; putting a progressive left spin on it.

Obama couldn't pull off Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Florida in '08.

If Kamala can carry all of the Obama '08 southern states and pick up most of those four by appealing to minorities, that's a huge takeaway from Biden/Beto/Bernie.
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« Reply #773 on: December 30, 2018, 11:24:32 PM »

I love how we're debating which city is the de-facto African American culture capital of the US, meanwhile, Kamala is revolutionizing the Southern Strategy to ensure a nomination.

Never change, fellow Democrats.

Huh

Shes basing herself in Atlanta. We dont even know what her plan is or how it will be executed. For all we know, she doesnt win the Black vote. Lets save the revolutionary strategy talk until after we see the nominee.

Not that she's revolutionary herself, but that if this is her plan of action - she's revolutionizing the idea of the Southern Strategy; putting a progressive left spin on it.

Obama couldn't pull off Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Florida in '08.

If Kamala can carry all of the Obama '08 southern states and pick up most of those four by appealing to minorities, that's a huge takeaway from Biden/Beto/Bernie.

Again, my point is that we dont even know:
1. What her strategy is
2. How much of the Black vote she will win
3. If she will be the nominee

For all we know, Biden wins these states due to the Obama legacy, we cannot be certain. Its best just to not make such declarations 1-2 years before they even happen.
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« Reply #774 on: December 30, 2018, 11:42:00 PM »

I love how we're debating which city is the de-facto African American culture capital of the US, meanwhile, Kamala is revolutionizing the Southern Strategy to ensure a nomination.

Never change, fellow Democrats.

Huh

Shes basing herself in Atlanta. We dont even know what her plan is or how it will be executed. For all we know, she doesnt win the Black vote. Lets save the revolutionary strategy talk until after we see the nominee.

Not that she's revolutionary herself, but that if this is her plan of action - she's revolutionizing the idea of the Southern Strategy; putting a progressive left spin on it.

Obama couldn't pull off Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Florida in '08.

If Kamala can carry all of the Obama '08 southern states and pick up most of those four by appealing to minorities, that's a huge takeaway from Biden/Beto/Bernie.

Again, my point is that we dont even know:
1. What her strategy is
2. How much of the Black vote she will win
3. If she will be the nominee

For all we know, Biden wins these states due to the Obama legacy, we cannot be certain. Its best just to not make such declarations 1-2 years before they even happen.

Implying Beto O'Rourke isn't already the nominee.
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