The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

[Progressive Pessimist]

Harris was in Iowa today stumping for Democrats and the crowds were quite impressive for a candidate this early in the stage...

https://twitter.com/ZachWahls/status/1054830482314137600

https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1054830090188742656

LOL I knew it. Might as well cancel the primaries now; it's going to be a Kamala coronation. Only Bernie could challenge her if he runs.

No poll (albeit not many) has Kamala ahead of Biden, Bernie, or Warren. Ofc she has far less name recognition rn, but I think you're being premature/hyperbolic here. Also, I fail to see how it's a "coronation" considering she's getting grassroots support if those tweets are to be believed.

Beet, in all of his avatars iterations, has an odd fixation on hating Kamala Harris and blaming her for what he sees as an inevitable ethnopolitical party system.

[Beet]

Harris was in Iowa today stumping for Democrats and the crowds were quite impressive for a candidate this early in the stage...

https://twitter.com/ZachWahls/status/1054830482314137600

https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1054830090188742656

LOL I knew it. Might as well cancel the primaries now; it's going to be a Kamala coronation. Only Bernie could challenge her if he runs.

No poll (albeit not many) has Kamala ahead of Biden, Bernie, or Warren. Ofc she has far less name recognition rn, but I think you're being premature/hyperbolic here. Also, I fail to see how it's a "coronation" considering she's getting grassroots support if those tweets are to be believed.

Beet, in all of his avatars iterations, has an odd fixation on hating Kamala Harris and blaming her for what he sees as an inevitable ethnopolitical party system.

No, I don't blame Harris personally for that, and it's not the reason I dislike her.

However, African Americans (about 20-30% of whom are social/temperamental conservatives) desperately need breathing room to enter the Republican Party. What Kanye and people like Candice Owens are doing, no matter what you think of Trump, is healthy for our democracy and healthy for Black Americans. As long as black people are clustered in one party, the other one (which in a two party system guaranteed a share of power in the long run -- will never be forced to confront its own racism.

[aaroncd107]

https://twitter.com/rokhanna/status/1054908967569121280?s=21

Rep. Ro Khanna visiting New Hampshire... if he is thinking about it, then that is telling that 2020 will break all kinds of records, primary-wise. Going to be a wild cycle.

[NevadanAtHeart]

Harris was in Iowa today stumping for Democrats and the crowds were quite impressive for a candidate this early in the stage...

https://twitter.com/ZachWahls/status/1054830482314137600

https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1054830090188742656

I mean, if we're using crowds in Iowa as an indicator, Sen. Booker killed it at the Iowa Dems' Fall Gala. Much larger crowd from what I can see. I recognize that it's not exactly grassroots support (although I believe it's not invite-only), but having the support of the individuals who would be at the Gala certainly seems like a precursor to getting resources.

But I don't think crowd sizes are that much of an indicator anyway, especially at this stage in the game when Iowans (and Dems) are clearly amenable to attending political events. O'Malley gets pretty decent crowds. Andrew Yang is probably about to fill a large dining hall in Baltimore pretty soon. Neither one is someone I rate highly as a contender.

[Mr. Morden]

Buzzfeed has a new story all about Patrick’s deliberations over whether to run for president:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/darrensands/deval-patrick-2020-president-campaign-barack-obama

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[Mr. Morden]

https://twitter.com/HCTrudo/status/1054743969089888256

[Mr. Morden]

Castro says he’ll decide right after Nov. 6th:

https://lancasteronline.com/news/politics/q-a-former-hud-secretary-julian-castro-speaks-in-lancaster/article_8a2e7278-d72c-11e8-a76d-b3444f4bf4d1.html

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Merkley heading back to NH:

https://twitter.com/steinhauserNH1/status/1054901249429123072

Tim Ryan’s already in NH, and says “I don’t really have a timetable” for making the decision about 2020:

https://twitter.com/steinhauserNH1/status/1054846391904845825

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Turning Point USA leader Candace Owens may primary Trump...? Or run for some down-ballot NY state position?

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1055221112316051456

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Turning Point USA leader Candace Owens may primary Trump...? Or run for some down-ballot NY state position?

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1055221112316051456

I love how literally the only people constantly cheering on her comments about "enslaved" blacks are white.

Anyways, I would LOVE to watch her get crushed in a state assembly election. She lives in NYC and has an ego bigger than the f***ing Empire State building so she'll probably challenge some entrenched Dem incumbent smack in the middle of the city and lose miserably.

[CherokeeDem]

Turning Point USA leader Candace Owens may primary Trump...? Or run for some down-ballot NY state position?

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1055221112316051456

I love how literally the only people constantly cheering on her comments about "enslaved" blacks are white.

Anyways, I would LOVE to watch her get crushed in a state assembly election. She lives in NYC and has an ego bigger than the f***ing Empire State building so she'll probably challenge some entrenched Dem incumbent smack in the middle of the city and lose miserably.

Watch her run for mayor or something. I can't imagine what she would possibly run for unless she moved.

[Mr. Morden]

Klobuchar will be in Iowa this weekend:

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/24/minnesota-amy-klobuchar-visit-iowa-weekend-democrats-caucus-president-trump-kavanaugh-candidate/1750704002/

Bloomberg’s timeline:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-his-newly-adopted-party-hugs-the-left-michael-bloomberg-aims-for-the-center/2018/10/23/8140dd7e-d6c6-11e8-83a2-d1c3da28d6b6_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.eddb6835efae

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[Mr. Morden]

Here’s a story from a few days ago about the Sanders-Warren “standoff” about whether one or both of them will run for president:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/bernie-sanders-running-against-warren-president/573529/

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[Mr. Morden]

Castro says he will likely not announce his 2020 intentions until after the start of the new year:

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Democrat-Julian-Castro-2020-back-in-New-Hampshire-21099749

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Turning Point USA leader Candace Owens may primary Trump...? Or run for some down-ballot NY state position?

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1055221112316051456

I love how literally the only people constantly cheering on her comments about "enslaved" blacks are white.

Anyways, I would LOVE to watch her get crushed in a state assembly election. She lives in NYC and has an ego bigger than the f***ing Empire State building so she'll probably challenge some entrenched Dem incumbent smack in the middle of the city and lose miserably.

Watch her run for mayor or something. I can't imagine what she would possibly run for unless she moved.

She'll probably do worse than Faith Goldy did in Toronto two days ago.

[Comrade Funk]

Harris was in Iowa today stumping for Democrats and the crowds were quite impressive for a candidate this early in the stage...

https://twitter.com/ZachWahls/status/1054830482314137600

https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1054830090188742656

LOL I knew it. Might as well cancel the primaries now; it's going to be a Kamala coronation. Only Bernie could challenge her if he runs.

No poll (albeit not many) has Kamala ahead of Biden, Bernie, or Warren. Ofc she has far less name recognition rn, but I think you're being premature/hyperbolic here. Also, I fail to see how it's a "coronation" considering she's getting grassroots support if those tweets are to be believed.

Beet, in all of his avatars iterations, has an odd fixation on hating Kamala Harris and blaming her for what he sees as an inevitable ethnopolitical party system.

No, I don't blame Harris personally for that, and it's not the reason I dislike her.

However, African Americans (about 20-30% of whom are social/temperamental conservatives) desperately need breathing room to enter the Republican Party. What Kanye and people like Candice Owens are doing, no matter what you think of Trump, is healthy for our democracy and healthy for Black Americans. As long as black people are clustered in one party, the other one (which in a two party system guaranteed a share of power in the long run -- will never be forced to confront its own racism.

So it's up to African Americans to stop Republican racism by joining the Republican Party? Or are you saying something else here. I'm confused.

[gottsu]

Harris was in Iowa today stumping for Democrats and the crowds were quite impressive for a candidate this early in the stage...

https://twitter.com/ZachWahls/status/1054830482314137600

https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1054830090188742656

Because she will run as a "second Obama" or "Obama in a skirt" in 2020. Look at her ethnic origin and career. I noticed that earlier.

[Cassandra]

A friend who owns bernie2020.org has been threatened with a lawsuit if he does not turn that domain over.

[Grassroots]

@JohnKasich - 8:42 AM - 25 Oct 2018

I gave him every chance, but I've come to the conclusion that @realDonaldTrump is simply incapable of being a unifier or accepting any personal responsibility.

Americans deserve more -- so much more -- from a President.

It's happening folks.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

A friend who owns bernie2020.org has been threatened with a lawsuit if he does not turn that domain over.

That was a problem Ron Paul faced in 2012.

[Mr. Morden]

Gillibrand asked about 2020 ambitions in her Senate debate says "I will serve my six year term":

https://freebeacon.com/politics/gillibrand-pushes-2020-speculation-serve-six-year-term-senate/

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[NYSforKennedy2024]

A friend who owns bernie2020.org has been threatened with a lawsuit if he does not turn that domain over.

Big if true.

[Pandaguineapig]

Gillibrand asked about 2020 ambitions in her Senate debate says "I will serve my six year term":

https://freebeacon.com/politics/gillibrand-pushes-2020-speculation-serve-six-year-term-senate/

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Technically that's true, she's just going to make a failed presidential run at the beginning of her term

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-avenatti-says-2020-democratic-nominee-better-be-a-white-male/

*loosens collar*

[beaver2.0]

A friend who owns bernie2020.org has been threatened with a lawsuit if he does not turn that domain over.

On what grounds?  Is there any legal reason to do that?

And Deval Patrick?  He's a has been.

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

Gillibrand asked about 2020 ambitions in her Senate debate says "I will serve my six year term":

https://freebeacon.com/politics/gillibrand-pushes-2020-speculation-serve-six-year-term-senate/

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Technically that's true, she's just going to make a failed presidential run at the beginning of her term

I'm inclined to agree due to Gillibrand's big sprint left these past 2 years, but she really has been pretty direct with her denials. Also doesn't seem to be nearly as active in early primary states as some of the other guys. What's going on here?