Will Nikki Haley 2024 put pressure on Dems to pick a female candidate in 2020?

[SCNCmod]

 If Graham is appointed Attorney General after the midterms... its the perfect opportunity for Haley to secure a job in the public eye for the next 4 years until its time for candidates to announce in 2022 (for the 2024 election).  Especially if Nikki thinks Trump may lose re-election (meaning she would be out of the public light from 2020-2022).  IF Senator in 2022... Haley would have Governor, Senator, and Ambassador to UN... and would be a very strong contender to be the Republican nominee in 2024.  (And she would almost definitely choose Marco Rubio as her running mate).

So- is she a big enough threat for Dems to think about choosing a 2020 ticket that would withstand a battle against Haley/Rubio in 2024?

[Coolface Sock #42069]

I doubt it. I think their focus needs to be on picking someone who can beat Trump. Focus on catching the ball before you think about where you want to run with it.

[Grassroots]

I agree that Haley/Rubio would absolutely crush most dem tickets, but I doubt they have that in mind.

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[SCNCmod]

Why is such a question so crazy?  Haley/Rubio ..or Haley with whoever is very likely to be a strong ticket in 2024.  A bit of forward thinking Defense mixed in to any strategy is never a bad thing.

[User155815470020]

If Graham is appointed Attorney General after the midterms... its the perfect opportunity for Haley to secure a job in the public eye for the next 4 years until its time for candidates to announce in 2022 (for the 2024 election).  Especially if Nikki thinks Trump may lose re-election (meaning she would be out of the public light from 2020-2022).  IF Senator in 2022... Haley would have Governor, Senator, and Ambassador to UN... and would be a very strong contender to be the Republican nominee in 2024.  (And she would almost definitely choose Marco Rubio as her running mate).

So- is she a big enough threat for Dems to think about choosing a 2020 ticket that would withstand a battle against Haley/Rubio in 2024?

Bob Graham is 82 years old and a Democrat. What on EARTH makes you think Trump would select that has-been as AG? You people are sincerely delusional.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Great, we're talking about a ticket with 2 Tea Party extremists running 15 years after anyone ever supported the Tea Party.

So I guess the Democrats are gonna run a Joe Lieberman/Evan Bayh ticket.

[DrScholl]

If Graham is appointed Attorney General after the midterms... its the perfect opportunity for Haley to secure a job in the public eye for the next 4 years until its time for candidates to announce in 2022 (for the 2024 election).  Especially if Nikki thinks Trump may lose re-election (meaning she would be out of the public light from 2020-2022).  IF Senator in 2022... Haley would have Governor, Senator, and Ambassador to UN... and would be a very strong contender to be the Republican nominee in 2024.  (And she would almost definitely choose Marco Rubio as her running mate).

So- is she a big enough threat for Dems to think about choosing a 2020 ticket that would withstand a battle against Haley/Rubio in 2024?

Bob Graham is 82 years old and a Democrat. What on EARTH makes you think Trump would select that has-been as AG? You people are sincerely delusional.

If you are going to call names, at least know what you are talking about. The OP is talking about Lindsey Graham, not Bob Graham.

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

If Graham is appointed Attorney General after the midterms... its the perfect opportunity for Haley to secure a job in the public eye for the next 4 years until its time for candidates to announce in 2022 (for the 2024 election).  Especially if Nikki thinks Trump may lose re-election (meaning she would be out of the public light from 2020-2022).  IF Senator in 2022... Haley would have Governor, Senator, and Ambassador to UN... and would be a very strong contender to be the Republican nominee in 2024.  (And she would almost definitely choose Marco Rubio as her running mate).

So- is she a big enough threat for Dems to think about choosing a 2020 ticket that would withstand a battle against Haley/Rubio in 2024?

Bob Graham is 82 years old and a Democrat. What on EARTH makes you think Trump would select that has-been as AG? You people are sincerely delusional.

Can't tell if troll or arrogant. You'll fit right in.

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No, her campaign won't have any effect 4 years before.

[Sir Mohamed]

No, women vote or don't vote for someone based on gender. They're too smart.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I would think the opposite. Nominating a white male to run against Nikki Haley might be the only real chance the Democrats have to actually pick up some of those "economically anxious" GOP voters.

But it's irrelevant, because the GOP won't nominate Haley any more than they would nominate Condoleezza Rice.

[RINO Tom]

I would think the opposite. Nominating a white male to run against Nikki Haley might be the only real chance the Democrats have to actually pick up some of those "economically anxious" GOP voters.

But it's irrelevant, because the GOP won't nominate Haley any more than they would nominate Condoleezza Rice.

Respectfully disagree.

[uti2]

Why is such a question so crazy?  Haley/Rubio ..or Haley with whoever is very likely to be a strong ticket in 2024.  A bit of forward thinking Defense mixed in to any strategy is never a bad thing.

Both of them are very similar to Romney, very rehearsed and featuring all the similar kinks all-in-all. All have trouble off-script. The same strategy used against Romney is sufficient. Just replace binders with xyz. Though I will note that of the three, Rubio is relatively better at giving off authenticity.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Voters not only don't think this in depth and strategically when voting (seriously!) most don't even pay close enough attention to politics to be able to.

And LOL@the notion a potential candidate's running mate can be accurately predicted SIX YEARS OUT.

[uti2]

I would think the opposite. Nominating a white male to run against Nikki Haley might be the only real chance the Democrats have to actually pick up some of those "economically anxious" GOP voters.

But it's irrelevant, because the GOP won't nominate Haley any more than they would nominate Condoleezza Rice.

Respectfully disagree.

She would have to run on Ted Cruz's platform to have a shot at it, if she runs on Rubio's platform, she ends up like Rubio.

Romney was lucky because he had Huntsman stand down for him, and because he was the only immigration hardliner in the entire GOP field at the time.

[Beet]

I really don't get all the Haley hype.

- Before being appointed UN ambassador, no one was talking about her. If she was so great, why didn't she run in 2016?

- UN ambassador is not typically a position where you talk about someone going for President

- Despite the talk saying she did so well in the role, she didn't really accomplish anything unusual

- Her politics are out of step with the Trump wing of the GOP

- By 2024 she'll have been out of elected office for nearly a decade

[NYSforKennedy2024]

I would flip Red for Haley/Rubio.

Who will the DNC put up against that? Kamala and some moderate VP?

[RINO Tom]

I really don't get all the Haley hype.

- Before being appointed UN ambassador, no one was talking about her. If she was so great, why didn't she run in 2016?

That's completely false.  She gained a lot of widespread credibility for her handling of the Confederate flag issue, including among Republicans.  I know that goes against the picture the forum wants to paint of the GOP, but that's how it went down.  Period.

- UN ambassador is not typically a position where you talk about someone going for President

Most UN ambassadors weren't in the spotlight as much as her in such a short time.

- Despite the talk saying she did so well in the role, she didn't really accomplish anything unusual

That's good...

- Her politics are out of step with the Trump wing of the GOP

How so?  First of all, the "Trump wing"'s size is greatly exaggerated and wrongly conflated with people who support Trump because he's the Republican President.  For every Sanchez who has a particular boner for The Donald and trashes other Republicans, there are five "Trump supporters" that are supporting him because he's the party's President.  This is evidenced by 50% of primary voters saying they wouldn't support Trump to most Republicans remaining loyal now.  They'd be similarly loyal to Haley just as they would have been for Romney and just as they were for Bush.
 It's like heresy to say this anymore, but can we stop pretending like the GOP electorate is fundamentally different from 2008?  Jesus Christ.

- By 2024 she'll have been out of elected office for nearly a decade

Well, that should be perfectly amendable to our current political climate, especially *THE TRUMP WING*!

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I'm so sick of warmongers.

[UWS]

I'd much rather have a Rubio/Haley ticket in 2024.

[Figueira]

Hold on a sec, I need a time machine to change my 2016 primary vote in order to prepare for the inevitable Nikki Haley candidacy in 2024.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Honestly the single most absurd thing about this scenario is both the notion that Haley if nominated would "almost definitely" choose Rubio as her running mate AND that almost all Democratic primary voters would be aware of this and take it into consideration when voting.

[uti2]

I really don't get all the Haley hype.

- Before being appointed UN ambassador, no one was talking about her. If she was so great, why didn't she run in 2016?

That's completely false.  She gained a lot of widespread credibility for her handling of the Confederate flag issue, including among Republicans.  I know that goes against the picture the forum wants to paint of the GOP, but that's how it went down.  Period.

- UN ambassador is not typically a position where you talk about someone going for President

Most UN ambassadors weren't in the spotlight as much as her in such a short time.

- Despite the talk saying she did so well in the role, she didn't really accomplish anything unusual

That's good...

- Her politics are out of step with the Trump wing of the GOP

How so?  First of all, the "Trump wing"'s size is greatly exaggerated and wrongly conflated with people who support Trump because he's the Republican President.  For every Sanchez who has a particular boner for The Donald and trashes other Republicans, there are five "Trump supporters" that are supporting him because he's the party's President.  This is evidenced by 50% of primary voters saying they wouldn't support Trump to most Republicans remaining loyal now.  They'd be similarly loyal to Haley just as they would have been for Romney and just as they were for Bush.
 It's like heresy to say this anymore, but can we stop pretending like the GOP electorate is fundamentally different from 2008?  Jesus Christ.

- By 2024 she'll have been out of elected office for nearly a decade

Well, that should be perfectly amendable to our current political climate, especially *THE TRUMP WING*!

Credibility with Establishment Republicans, not the base.

What did she do in the spotlight? She just reiterated John Bolton talking points. It's not good to have a sparse track record in general.

Bush and Romney were ragged on by the base, but Bush was forgiven due to 9/11, and Romney, because he was the only immigration hawk in the field.

If it's good to stay out of the spotlight, why was it positive for her to join the Trump admin in the first place? She could've achieved the same as SC governor.

[Reformicon]

Whether Haley has a future as the GOP nominee depends on whether Trump succeeds at fundamentally changing the Republican Party.

The same people who voted for Rubio and Cruz in 2016 would support Haley in 2020/24.  Yet this constitutes a minority of GOP primary voters.  Most GOP primary voters chose Trump over younger, more interesting conservative candidates last time around.

It's possible that there's a silent majority of Republicans that are quite Trumpy, and/or that Trump is converting voters who didn't used to vote Republican to come into the party and start voting in GOP primaries.  Either way, Trump may have a lasting effect on where the Republican Party goes ideologically, and that also influences what types of candidates the party chooses down the line.