Did Susan Collins just announced her retirement?

[pppolitics]

After announcing her vote for Kavanaugh, did Susan Collins just announced her retirement?

Her recipe for winning is to sweep the moderates and win ~40% of Democrats.

I don't see how that would be possible after she voted for Kavanaugh

[DrScholl]

She may as well have. Democrats were stupid for indulging her for so many years when she was clearly not a moderate.

[KingSweden]

Yeah I doubt she runs

[MT Treasurer]

Uh, no? She was always much more likely to lose the primary than the general.

And no, she certainly doesn’t need to win "~40% of Democrats" in a D+3 state. Get real.

[😥]

Yeah I doubt she runs

[here2view]

I think she retires.

I don't think she can win reelection in Maine after this.

[Free Bird]

She may as well have. Democrats were stupid for indulging her for so many years when she was clearly not a moderate.

Yep, the pro-gay, pro-choice Republican that defeated numerous Obamacare repeal attempts is not a moderate because she's not voting the way you personally want. Cry me an Inksing river.

With that in mind, I think this was actually her reaffirming that she's not done. All the talk of civility gives her an alibi to stay on.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This also helps Mills and Jared Golden out in their races. It's no use harping on it, Gardner, Tillis, Collins and hopefully Roberts get voted out

[GeorgiaModerate]

Susan Rice is apparently in:

https://twitter.com/AmbassadorRice/status/1048305496732491777

[RINO Tom]

40% of Democrats?!  LOL, say what you want about her primary chances, but in the general she was obviously winning based off of standardly high Republican support and great independent support ... the Democrats kind enough to give her their votes were icing on the cake.

[windjammer]

This forum's usual overreaction...

[Rhenna]

Her retirement has been locked since Trump became President. Her 2015-2021 term has been an absolute disaster and mess unlike her previous terms where she was able to keep a relatively low profile.

[RINO Tom]

She may as well have. Democrats were stupid for indulging her for so many years when she was clearly not a moderate.

Yep, the pro-gay, pro-choice Republican that defeated numerous Obamacare repeal attempts is not a moderate because she's not voting the way you personally want. Cry me an Inksing river.

With that in mind, I think this was actually her reaffirming that she's not done. All the talk of civility gives her an alibi to stay on.

Nobody to the right of Javits is even kind of a moderate to Atlas Democrats.

[KingSweden]

Susan Rice is apparently in:

https://twitter.com/AmbassadorRice/status/1048305496732491777

Hmm wouldn’t be my first choice

[Alabama_Indy10]

This forum's usual overreaction...

[ON Progressive]

She may as well have. Democrats were stupid for indulging her for so many years when she was clearly not a moderate.

Yep, the pro-gay, pro-choice Republican that defeated numerous Obamacare repeal attempts is not a moderate because she's not voting the way you personally want. Cry me an Inksing river.

With that in mind, I think this was actually her reaffirming that she's not done. All the talk of civility gives her an alibi to stay on.

If Collins is pro-choice, why does she vote for literally every single Federalist Society justice when every FS justice wants to overturn Roe v. Wade?

[Orser67]

No. Trump won 45% of the vote in ME in 2016, so it's not like she's running for re-election in, say, Massachusetts. She needs to be just as worried about a primary as about a general election challenge, and she also needs to make sure she doesn't get much undervoting (i.e. people voting for Trump but not her) by conservatives in 2020.

I do hope that voting for Kavanaugh hurts her a bit in 2020, but I think it's more likely that conservatives would have remembered in 2020 than that swing voters will care.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Whether voters remember Collins's vote in 2020 is going to depend a lot on whether Kavanaugh is the deciding vote in any huge decisions, like overturning Roe v. Wade, before then.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No. Trump won 45% of the vote in ME in 2016, so it's not like she's running for re-election in, say, Massachusetts. She needs to be just as worried about a primary as about a general election challenge, and she also needs to make sure she doesn't get much undervoting (i.e. people voting for Trump but not her) by conservatives in 2020.

I do hope that voting for Kavanaugh hurts her a bit in 2020, but I think it's more likely that conservatives would have remembered in 2020 than that swing voters will care.

Yes, but ME has a Governorhip up and a vulnerable House seat and with her affirmative vote, likely will cost the GOP

[DrScholl]

She may as well have. Democrats were stupid for indulging her for so many years when she was clearly not a moderate.

Yep, the pro-gay, pro-choice Republican that defeated numerous Obamacare repeal attempts is not a moderate because she's not voting the way you personally want. Cry me an Inksing river.

With that in mind, I think this was actually her reaffirming that she's not done. All the talk of civility gives her an alibi to stay on.

She can fashion herself anything she wants to but it doesn't make a bit of difference when she votes for extremely conservative leadership and court nominees.

MISS SUGAR HONEY ICE TEA IS GOING DOWN IN 2020. PREPARE TO CRY HARD!

[Zaybay]

There are two reasons for the decision she has made:

1. She is trying to move right for the primary, which is good for her, but I wonder if it will work. This is because Collins has been shown to be outright weak in primaries, with her chance to become governor squashed cause she couldnt beat the previous health care administrator. As senator, she was losing, big time, to a public health care official. What if she faced someone strong? What if she faced Paul LePage, or perhaps a former representative, or even a state legislator, she could be in real trouble. If I were her, I would have just gone the moderate path, and allowed myself to stay in power, perhaps as an indie.

2. There is also the other scenario, that she has given up. She has nothing else to do but vote with the GOP and cement their leadership. She is retiring. This is highly possible. With her having such a new record to be attacked on (not to mention the 2$ million already raised against her), it is very possible that she sees it as too much effort and work, and not even a certainty, and has decided to retire.

Also, to those who are saying ME is a weak D state or that Trump won by 3 points forgets what happened in 2016. Collins now has a race if she wins, a race that will depend on whether she can appeal to the Trump voters in the second, and the Clinton voters in the first. Something tells me she will not be competitive this year in the first, so its up to the second, WWC, Trump district, to vote for Collins by enough of a margin to eclipse the first, its larger counterpart. That...is tough, especially if the Ds get someone like Troy Jackson, or Jared Golden, or we see a return affect that basically resets the state at 2012.

Anyway, this is all just speculation, we will have to see what happens. All that is known is that Collins gave the SC a new justice.

[Dereich]

Atlas on Heitkamp's Kavanaugh vote: Doesn't matter, voters will have forgotten in a month.

Atlas on Collins' Kavanaugh vote: COLLINS HAS JUST DOOMED HERSELF IN 2020.

[Former Kentuckian]

Atlas on Heitkamp's Kavanaugh vote: Doesn't matter, voters will have forgotten in a month.

Atlas on Collins' Kavanaugh vote: COLLINS HAS JUST DOOMED HERSELF IN 2020.

Well, to be fair, voters will feel the repercussions from Collins's vote and not Heitkamp's.

[Politician]

Yep, I already assumed she was going to retire anyway. Voting for Kavanaugh proves she is done with politics.

Atlas on Heitkamp's Kavanaugh vote: Doesn't matter, voters will have forgotten in a month.

Atlas on Collins' Kavanaugh vote: COLLINS HAS JUST DOOMED HERSELF IN 2020.

Nope. Kavanaugh being confirmed can only help Dems.

[RINO Tom]

There are two reasons for the decision she has made:

1. She is trying to move right for the primary, which is good for her, but I wonder if it will work. This is because Collins has been shown to be outright weak in primaries, with her chance to become governor squashed cause she couldnt beat the previous health care administrator. As senator, she was losing, big time, to a public health care official. What if she faced someone strong? What if she faced Paul LePage, or perhaps a former representative, or even a state legislator, she could be in real trouble. If I were her, I would have just gone the moderate path, and allowed myself to stay in power, perhaps as an indie.

2. There is also the other scenario, that she has given up. She has nothing else to do but vote with the GOP and cement their leadership. She is retiring. This is highly possible. With her having such a new record to be attacked on (not to mention the 2$ million already raised against her), it is very possible that she sees it as too much effort and work, and not even a certainty, and has decided to retire.

Also, to those who are saying ME is a weak D state or that Trump won by 3 points forgets what happened in 2016. Collins now has a race if she wins, a race that will depend on whether she can appeal to the Trump voters in the second, and the Clinton voters in the first. Something tells me she will not be competitive this year in the first, so its up to the second, WWC, Trump district, to vote for Collins by enough of a margin to eclipse the first, its larger counterpart. That...is tough, especially if the Ds get someone like Troy Jackson, or Jared Golden, or we see a return affect that basically resets the state at 2012.

Anyway, this is all just speculation, we will have to see what happens. All that is known is that Collins gave the SC a new justice.

3. She didn't think there was enough evidence to believe allegations against Judge Kavanaugh.