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« Reply #1800 on: October 25, 2018, 07:52:11 AM »

We can afford to lose Comstock and Fitzpatrick. I maintain that the GCB can very well be close to D+low-single-digits on election day. Reuters/Ipsos had it at D+11, now at D+7. Tick tock.
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« Reply #1801 on: October 25, 2018, 07:55:47 AM »

We can afford to lose Comstock and Fitzpatrick. I maintain that the GCB can very well be close to D+low-single-digits on election day. Reuters/Ipsos had it at D+11, now at D+7. Tick tock.

Didn't you have the CGB tied yesterday, and now at low single digits? That's a pretty impressive upward trend for the Dems. Tick tock.
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« Reply #1802 on: October 25, 2018, 08:08:04 AM »

We can afford to lose Comstock and Fitzpatrick. I maintain that the GCB can very well be close to D+low-single-digits on election day. Reuters/Ipsos had it at D+11, now at D+7. Tick tock.

Didn't you have the CGB tied yesterday, and now at low single digits? That's a pretty impressive upward trend for the Dems. Tick tock.

Less than two weeks left of this character, hopefully.
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« Reply #1803 on: October 25, 2018, 08:23:36 AM »

We can afford to lose Comstock and Fitzpatrick. I maintain that the GCB can very well be close to D+low-single-digits on election day. Reuters/Ipsos had it at D+11, now at D+7. Tick tock.

At least be realistic. The GCB isnt going to descend into low-single digits. This would require a literal 9/11 to happen. The undecideds would have to be all GOP voters for this to happen. It has a chance, but its as likely as winning the lottery.

Also, Ipsos having wild swings is not new. Not at all. One day, they went from D+15 to D+0, and then back to D+12, and then to D+4. Thats kind of their thing.
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« Reply #1804 on: October 25, 2018, 08:25:50 AM »

We can afford to lose Comstock and Fitzpatrick. I maintain that the GCB can very well be close to D+low-single-digits on election day. Reuters/Ipsos had it at D+11, now at D+7. Tick tock.

At least be realistic. The GCB isnt going to descend into low-single digits. This would require a literal 9/11 to happen. The undecideds would have to be all GOP voters for this to happen. It has a chance, but its as likely as winning the lottery.

Also, Ipsos having wild swings is not new. Not at all. One day, they went from D+15 to D+0, and then back to D+12, and then to D+4. Thats kind of their thing.

It's weighted so much that it cause the Republicans to improve by 1 in by the GCB and TA @ RCP and improve by like 1-2% @538.
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« Reply #1805 on: October 25, 2018, 08:27:17 AM »

Comstock was always DOA and would have lost even in a Clinton midterm.
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« Reply #1806 on: October 25, 2018, 08:28:28 AM »

Comstock was always DOA and would have lost even in a Clinton midterm.
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« Reply #1807 on: October 25, 2018, 08:29:20 AM »


Shed have a decent shot at Senator Comstoxk in a Clinton midterm
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« Reply #1808 on: October 25, 2018, 08:30:00 AM »

Scott Taylor might be a better Senate candidate, but I agree, she'd be good as well.
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« Reply #1809 on: October 25, 2018, 08:42:04 AM »


Even if we assume that a district's/state's trend/partisan lean doesn’t matter in an off-year or midterm election, she was always on borrowed time and would have been wiped off the face of earth in the next presidential year. Candidate Quality™ only gets you so far in a district like this (or NOVA/VA in general). VA-10 is a district where Clinton would have remained fairly popular even if her approvals had dropped into the low 40s nationally (plausible, but basically the floor for a Democrat). Comstock would have been the favorite in a Clinton midterm the same way Heidi Heitkamp is favored to win this year just because Trump is president.
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« Reply #1810 on: October 25, 2018, 08:44:55 AM »


Even if we assume that a district's/state's trend/partisan lean doesn’t matter in an off-year or midterm election, she was always on borrowed time and would have been wiped off the face of earth in the next presidential year. Candidate Quality™ only gets you so far in a district like this (or NOVA/VA in general). VA-10 is a district where Clinton would have remained fairly popular even if her approvals had dropped into the low 40s nationally (plausible, but basically the floor for a Democrat). Comstock would have been the favorite in a Clinton midterm the same way Heidi Heitkamp is favored to win this year just because Trump is president.
I'm making the assumption that the GOP would have learned its lesson and ditched Trumpism due to Clinton's winning.
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« Reply #1811 on: October 25, 2018, 08:46:30 AM »


Even if we assume that a district's/state's trend/partisan lean doesn’t matter in an off-year or midterm election, she was always on borrowed time and would have been wiped off the face of earth in the next presidential year. Candidate Quality™ only gets you so far in a district like this (or NOVA/VA in general). VA-10 is a district where Clinton would have remained fairly popular even if her approvals had dropped into the low 40s nationally (plausible, but basically the floor for a Democrat). Comstock would have been the favorite in a Clinton midterm the same way Heidi Heitkamp is favored to win this year just because Trump is president.

In a Clinton midterm you could imagine that Comstock would not have had a formidable opponent with herculean fundraising - the R base would be more motivated and the D's would be on defense trying to hold districts they barely won in 2016 - such as NJ's 5th with Gottheimer.
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« Reply #1812 on: October 25, 2018, 08:51:22 AM »


Even if we assume that a district's/state's trend/partisan lean doesn’t matter in an off-year or midterm election, she was always on borrowed time and would have been wiped off the face of earth in the next presidential year. Candidate Quality™ only gets you so far in a district like this (or NOVA/VA in general). VA-10 is a district where Clinton would have remained fairly popular even if her approvals had dropped into the low 40s nationally (plausible, but basically the floor for a Democrat). Comstock would have been the favorite in a Clinton midterm the same way Heidi Heitkamp is favored to win this year just because Trump is president.

In a Clinton midterm you could imagine that Comstock would not have had a formidable opponent with herculean fundraising - the R base would be more motivated and the D's would be on defense trying to hold districts they barely won in 2016 - such as NJ's 5th with Gottheimer.
This too.

In a Clinton midterm, you wouldn't have top-notch recruits like Aftab, Davis, Davids, Wexton, Abrams, Gillum, Smith, Allred, Finkenauer, Sutton, Campa-Najar, Porter, Whitmer, etc. running for the Dems.  The GOP would be the ones touting rising stars of similar caliber, and the Dems would be desperately trying to stave off the GOP's reaching 60 Senate seats and over 250 House seats, let alone even thinking of taking back either chamber.  The GOP would also be looking at reaching 40+ governorships.


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« Reply #1813 on: October 25, 2018, 08:51:48 AM »

We can afford to lose Comstock and Fitzpatrick. I maintain that the GCB can very well be close to D+low-single-digits on election day. Reuters/Ipsos had it at D+11, now at D+7. Tick tock.

Didn't you have the CGB tied yesterday, and now at low single digits? That's a pretty impressive upward trend for the Dems. Tick tock.

maybe R+lowsingledigits is more realistic.

Also @Brittain32: I'm not going away lol
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« Reply #1814 on: October 25, 2018, 09:15:14 AM »

USA Today/Suffolk, Oct. 18-22, 1000 LV (change from August)

D: 51 (+1)
R: 43 (+4)
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« Reply #1815 on: October 25, 2018, 09:17:59 AM »

USA Today/Suffolk, Oct. 18-22, 1000 LV (change from August)

D: 51 (+1)
R: 43 (+4)

I can see it being like 52-44.
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« Reply #1816 on: October 25, 2018, 09:22:57 AM »

USA Today/Suffolk, Oct. 18-22, 1000 LV (change from August)

D: 51 (+1)
R: 43 (+4)

Consistent with the averages
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« Reply #1817 on: October 25, 2018, 09:25:02 AM »

USA Today/Suffolk, Oct. 18-22, 1000 LV (change from August)

D: 51 (+1)
R: 43 (+4)

Consistent with the averages

Yep, makes sense with Republicans coming home and turning out but still getting shellacked by Dems and indys.
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« Reply #1818 on: October 25, 2018, 09:47:59 AM »




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« Reply #1819 on: October 25, 2018, 09:54:12 AM »

I’m getting NC-SEN 2014 vibes from NV-SEN. I remember not buying the polls showing Hagan with a clear lead and predicting that the state's lean would carry Tillis despite his weak campaign.
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« Reply #1820 on: October 25, 2018, 09:58:48 AM »


Even if we assume that a district's/state's trend/partisan lean doesn’t matter in an off-year or midterm election, she was always on borrowed time and would have been wiped off the face of earth in the next presidential year. Candidate Quality™ only gets you so far in a district like this (or NOVA/VA in general). VA-10 is a district where Clinton would have remained fairly popular even if her approvals had dropped into the low 40s nationally (plausible, but basically the floor for a Democrat). Comstock would have been the favorite in a Clinton midterm the same way Heidi Heitkamp is favored to win this year just because Trump is president.
There's a pretty big difference between running as a dem in a state with an R +17 pvi and running as a republican in a D +1 district. Comstock could've definitely survived a Clinton midterm, but you're correct: her eventual loss would be inevitable. She would probably go down in 2020, and if not, redistricting would surely get her.
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« Reply #1821 on: October 25, 2018, 10:05:46 AM »

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« Reply #1822 on: October 25, 2018, 10:07:51 AM »



Based on early voting across the country so far, I think it's time to start ignoring all "low turnout" models.
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« Reply #1823 on: October 25, 2018, 10:08:45 AM »
« Edited: October 25, 2018, 10:15:53 AM by Gass3268 »



Another incumbent sitting in the mid-40's with only a week and a half to go.

MacArthur's favorables are not great at only +1. He's at -13 with women and -1 with seniors. Kim's numbers are better at +10. He's at +3 with men only down -2 with 50-64, his worst age group.

Trumps approvals are even 49-49, but the strongly dissaprove outwiegh's the strongly approve 42-35. Undecideds approve of Trump 49-48, but again the stronly dissaprove is larger at 29-23.

Democrats lead the generic ballot 43-40.

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« Reply #1824 on: October 25, 2018, 10:10:57 AM »


Even if we assume that a district's/state's trend/partisan lean doesn’t matter in an off-year or midterm election, she was always on borrowed time and would have been wiped off the face of earth in the next presidential year. Candidate Quality™ only gets you so far in a district like this (or NOVA/VA in general). VA-10 is a district where Clinton would have remained fairly popular even if her approvals had dropped into the low 40s nationally (plausible, but basically the floor for a Democrat). Comstock would have been the favorite in a Clinton midterm the same way Heidi Heitkamp is favored to win this year just because Trump is president.
There's a pretty big difference between running as a dem in a state with an R +17 pvi and running as a republican in a D +1 district. Comstock could've definitely survived a Clinton midterm, but you're correct: her eventual loss would be inevitable. She would probably go down in 2020, and if not, redistricting would surely get her.

Wow, I didn't realize VA-10 was only D+1 (never really looked closely at it, I guess, or didn't think about it when I did).
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