Wisconsin Megathread v2: Hagedorn vs. Neubauer

[MasterJedi]

Supposedly 2,000 of the Milwaukee ballots were "reconstructed", I doubt it changes anything at all though.

[Virginiá]

It'll be key to watch how Republicans in the legislature behave. They could try to remove the Governor from the redistricting process, but voters will have to approve it. What I will say is that if they wanted to do that, it basically costs nothing. But the big failure of the North Carolina GOP's amendment schemes this cycle might help instill a sense of futility in the WIGOP. Although walking away from this election with little-to-no erosion in their legislative ranks might embolden them. I dunno.

Also there is no guarantee the WIGOP has a state Supreme Court majority by the time the maps need to be redrawn. I think Democrats have some opportunities, and at worst, the GOP will only have a small majority on the bench.

Edit: Actually, seems like Republicans will likely have a bare majority for redistricting, but that hardly means the GOP will just gerrymander through them instead, if it falls to the judges.

[Gass3268]

It'll be key to watch how Republicans in the legislature behave. They could try to remove the Governor from the redistricting process, but voters will have to approve it. What I will say is that if they wanted to do that, it basically costs nothing. But the big failure of the North Carolina GOP's amendment schemes this cycle might help instill a sense of futility in the WIGOP. Although walking away from this election with little-to-no erosion in their legislative ranks might embolden them. I dunno.

Also there is no guarantee the WIGOP has a state Supreme Court majority by the time the maps need to be redrawn. I think Democrats have some opportunities, and at worst, the GOP will only have a small majority on the bench.

Edit: Actually, seems like Republicans will likely have a bare majority for redistricting, but that hardly means the GOP will just gerrymander through them instead, if it falls to the judges.

Couple things: 1) There is not enough time for Repubilcans to get a Consitutional Amendment on the ballot in time before 2021. It has to pass in two consecutive terms. That is unless they call a special session before January. 2) If there is a deadlock regarding redistricting, the federal courts will get the authority to drawn the lines, not the state courts. Look at Virgina for example.

[Wisconsin SC Race 2019]

It'll be key to watch how Republicans in the legislature behave. They could try to remove the Governor from the redistricting process, but voters will have to approve it. What I will say is that if they wanted to do that, it basically costs nothing. But the big failure of the North Carolina GOP's amendment schemes this cycle might help instill a sense of futility in the WIGOP. Although walking away from this election with little-to-no erosion in their legislative ranks might embolden them. I dunno.

Also there is no guarantee the WIGOP has a state Supreme Court majority by the time the maps need to be redrawn. I think Democrats have some opportunities, and at worst, the GOP will only have a small majority on the bench.

Edit: Actually, seems like Republicans will likely have a bare majority for redistricting, but that hardly means the GOP will just gerrymander through them instead, if it falls to the judges.

Couple things: 1) There is not enough time for Repubilcans to get a Consitutional Amendment on the ballot in time before 2021. It has to pass in two consecutive terms. That is unless they call a special session before January. 2) If there is a deadlock regarding redistricting, the federal courts will get the authority to drawn the lines, not the state courts. Look at Virgina for example.

Are you forgetting who controls the federal courts? 

[Virginiá]

Couple things: 1) There is not enough time for Repubilcans to get a Consitutional Amendment on the ballot in time before 2021. It has to pass in two consecutive terms. That is unless they call a special session before January. 2) If there is a deadlock regarding redistricting, the federal courts will get the authority to drawn the lines, not the state courts. Look at Virgina for example.

Can't they just pass it in 2019 and then again in 2020? Certainly there are at least two sessions between 2019 and 2020, and of course special sessions.

Virginia's redraw was done by federal courts because a federal court struck down the original map. I was curious myself who does it in a deadlock during the actual, official new census redistricting, so I looked up Minnesota, and evidently they have a state court panel do theirs due to the deadlock.

[Gass3268]

It'll be key to watch how Republicans in the legislature behave. They could try to remove the Governor from the redistricting process, but voters will have to approve it. What I will say is that if they wanted to do that, it basically costs nothing. But the big failure of the North Carolina GOP's amendment schemes this cycle might help instill a sense of futility in the WIGOP. Although walking away from this election with little-to-no erosion in their legislative ranks might embolden them. I dunno.

Also there is no guarantee the WIGOP has a state Supreme Court majority by the time the maps need to be redrawn. I think Democrats have some opportunities, and at worst, the GOP will only have a small majority on the bench.

Edit: Actually, seems like Republicans will likely have a bare majority for redistricting, but that hardly means the GOP will just gerrymander through them instead, if it falls to the judges.

Couple things: 1) There is not enough time for Repubilcans to get a Consitutional Amendment on the ballot in time before 2021. It has to pass in two consecutive terms. That is unless they call a special session before January. 2) If there is a deadlock regarding redistricting, the federal courts will get the authority to drawn the lines, not the state courts. Look at Virgina for example.

Are you forgetting who controls the federal courts? 

Even in 2011 when the Bushies controlled the federal courts, court drawn maps where much fairer than partisan drawn maps. Also they always appoint a special master, who's usually a college professor somewhere.

[Wiz in Wis]

Couple things: 1) There is not enough time for Repubilcans to get a Consitutional Amendment on the ballot in time before 2021. It has to pass in two consecutive terms. That is unless they call a special session before January. 2) If there is a deadlock regarding redistricting, the federal courts will get the authority to drawn the lines, not the state courts. Look at Virgina for example.

Can't they just pass it in 2019 and then again in 2020? Certainly there are at least two sessions between 2019 and 2020, and of course special sessions.

Virginia's redraw was done by federal courts because a federal court struck down the original map. I was curious myself who does it in a deadlock during the actual, official new census redistricting, so I looked up Minnesota, and evidently they have a state court panel do theirs due to the deadlock.

Sessions in this case means terms... So 2019, and 2021, to be voted on in 2023 at the earliest.

[Virginiá]

Ohhh ok, thanks. Fair enough!

[Scottholes 2.0]

"Counties have to start the vote canvass by Tuesday and have until Nov. 20 to report the totals to the state, which then has until Dec. 3 to certify the results."

https://dailyreporter.com/2018/11/07/election-results-suggest-tony-evers-narrowly-defeats-gov-walker/

[Tartarus Sauce]

This was the best result of last night other than winning the House. God bless the People’s Republic of Madison.

[Gass3268]

Walker conceded!!!

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1060258991215992833

[MasterJedi]

Walker conceded!!!

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1060258991215992833

"Mr. Koch, can I have a job please?"

[GeorgiaModerate]

Walker conceded!!!

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1060258991215992833

"Mr. Koch, can I have a job please?"

 
There's an opening in Washington DC...

[libertpaulian]

All hail Governor Super Nintendo

[Dr. Arch]

Walker conceded!!!

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1060258991215992833

[Tintrlvr]

It'll be key to watch how Republicans in the legislature behave. They could try to remove the Governor from the redistricting process, but voters will have to approve it. What I will say is that if they wanted to do that, it basically costs nothing. But the big failure of the North Carolina GOP's amendment schemes this cycle might help instill a sense of futility in the WIGOP. Although walking away from this election with little-to-no erosion in their legislative ranks might embolden them. I dunno.

Also there is no guarantee the WIGOP has a state Supreme Court majority by the time the maps need to be redrawn. I think Democrats have some opportunities, and at worst, the GOP will only have a small majority on the bench.

Edit: Actually, seems like Republicans will likely have a bare majority for redistricting, but that hardly means the GOP will just gerrymander through them instead, if it falls to the judges.

Couple things: 1) There is not enough time for Repubilcans to get a Consitutional Amendment on the ballot in time before 2021. It has to pass in two consecutive terms. That is unless they call a special session before January. 2) If there is a deadlock regarding redistricting, the federal courts will get the authority to drawn the lines, not the state courts. Look at Virgina for example.

Are you forgetting who controls the federal courts?  

It would be a random district court judge chosen from the Western District of Wisconsin (because it covers Madison). All three currently active judges on the Western District of Wisconsin were appointed by Democrats (two Obama, one Carter).

[Gass3268]

Virginia: You were right

https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480?s=21

[Wisconsin SC Race 2019]

Virginia: You were right

https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480?s=21

This is gonna go about as well as it did in NC.

[Dr. Arch]

Virginia: You were right

https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480?s=21

This is gonna go about as well as it did in NC.

Exactly

[Gass3268]

Virginia: You were right

https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480?s=21

This is gonna go about as well as it did in NC.

Exactly

Stuff like this is how you accelerate trends against your party.

[Storr]

What were the gains/losses in the Legislature? I know the Republicans kept the majorities, I just haven't been able to find out the specifics.

[Wiz in Wis]

What were the gains/losses in the Legislature? I know the Republicans kept the majorities, I just haven't been able to find out the specifics.

R+1 in State Senate, NC in State Assembly.

[Gass3268]

What were the gains/losses in the Legislature? I know the Republicans kept the majorities, I just haven't been able to find out the specifics.

R+1 in State Senate, NC in State Assembly.

AD-14 will go to a recount, Republican is up by like 21 votes.

[MasterJedi]

Even the WISC will vote against the power grab.

[Virginiá]

Even the WISC will vote against the power grab.

It depends on what it is I imagine. I don't know exactly how powerful the WI Governor is and what exactly he can do, but if the WIGOP is like the NCGOP, they will probably try to limit his input in election stuff and place restraints on his ability to freely staff his administration. Maybe also take away the ability of the executive to pass some kinds of regulations as well. This is all pretty typical.

Can't say I'm surprised at this. The Republican Party these days is a place where ethics go to die. Too many corrupt politicians who are drowning in the money and priorities of wealthy people and corporations. Not to mention the dangerous trend of anti-democratic tendencies over the past generation.