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Yes, alcohol should not be sold on Sunday mornings
 
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Yes, I support some other restriction different from Option 1
 
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« on: October 16, 2005, 09:08:52 PM »

No.

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2005, 09:10:03 PM »

There is no such thing as the principle separation of church and state.  Go read your Federalist Papers and/or buy an education.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2005, 09:15:35 PM »

NO.

It's a legal product, and in PA it's sold by the State.  As soon as PA Liquor Stores started opening on Sunday, they're making more money now than ever. 

Whatever reason they used for restricting sales on Sunday previously are in the shredder now.......cash talks.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2005, 09:18:41 PM »

Option 3.

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.

It is not necessarily a separation of church and state unless the North Carolina law states that it is done because of religious reasons.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 09:20:24 PM »

nope.  there should be no restrictions on when to sell it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2005, 09:22:35 PM »

Yes, but i'm a Prohibitionist so what would you expect? Wink

I favor Sunday Laws and "Dry" Counties.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2005, 09:26:26 PM »

Ideally it would be illegal to sell. If not, I'd rather it not be sold at any time on the weekend. PA is option one.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2005, 09:29:13 PM »

nope.  there should be no restrictions on when to sell it.

Or when to use it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2005, 09:36:04 PM »

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.

It is not necessarily a separation of church and state unless the North Carolina law states that it is done because of religious reasons.

It is extremely unlikely that the law would exist for non-religious reasons.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2005, 09:38:22 PM »

It hardly matters why a law is put into place, only what it says.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2005, 09:41:10 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2005, 09:55:28 PM by Senator PBrunsel »

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.

It is not necessarily a separation of church and state unless the North Carolina law states that it is done because of religious reasons.

It is extremely unlikely that the law would exist for non-religious reasons.

I'm fairly sure that if the law does not say "Since it is an abomination before God to consume alcohol on the Sabbath" then that idiotic "Church and State" "clause" (that is not in the Constitution) does not apply. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2005, 09:49:26 PM »

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.

the establishment clause states that the governmaent can't force you to worship a certain deity, the sunday laws aren't forcing you to worship a deity.

It is not necessarily a separation of church and state unless the North Carolina law states that it is done because of religious reasons.

It is extremely unlikely that the law would exist for non-religious reasons.

I'm failr sure that if the law does not say "Since it is an abomination before God to consumke alcohol on the Sabbath" then that idiotic "Church and State" "clause" (that is not in the Constitution) applies. Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2005, 09:52:16 PM »

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.

It is not necessarily a separation of church and state unless the North Carolina law states that it is done because of religious reasons.

It is extremely unlikely that the law would exist for non-religious reasons.

What the law says it what matters.  Restricting the sale of alcohol does not directly affect religious freedom, nor does it establish a religion as officially sanctioned by the state.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2005, 10:00:08 PM »

No. I support no laws on alcohol sales.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2005, 10:08:04 PM »

It's illegal in Minnesota to sell alcohol besides wine coolers and 3.2 beer after 10 PM except in a bar, which I reluctantly support (even though I'd rather up the time to midnight), simply because it'd be a disaster to allow people at keg parties to refill at 2 AM. I've been to great parties, some that have run out of liquor, but the fact is an endless supply just means more alcohol poisoning and drunk driving deaths.

But I definately oppose any laws based on days of the week.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2005, 06:27:14 AM »

We have limits in Britain (no alcohol after 11pm, though this law has been loosened somewhat in the last decade and doesn't apply to nightclubs, for instance), which has basically turned us into the biggest binge drinkers in Europe. Emphatically, No.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2005, 06:45:12 AM »

Of course not.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2005, 06:49:37 AM »

We have limits in Britain (no alcohol after 11pm, though this law has been loosened somewhat in the last decade and doesn't apply to nightclubs, for instance), which has basically turned us into the biggest binge drinkers in Europe. Emphatically, No.

binge drinkers should be shot on the spot.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2005, 06:51:25 AM »

No.

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.

That's nonsense.  And North Carolina seems more liberal than Connecticut in that respect, since we don't allow alcohol sales at all on Sunday, including beer.

You must be one of those people who'd rather see pictures of two men having anal sex than see a nativity scene at Christmas.  There is something very twisted about the way church-state separation is applied by liberals today.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2005, 07:16:55 AM »
« Edited: October 17, 2005, 07:19:32 AM by opebo »

Alcohol should be sold 24/7.

So should all drugs, prostitutes, etc.

Anything less is a violation of the separation of church and state, as well as the Right to Privacy.


There is no such thing as the principle separation of church and state.  Go read your Federalist Papers and/or buy an education.

Why should anyone read that?  It isn't in the constitution, is it?  What garbage, next you'll be having me read the bible.  Why don't you go read the Communist Manifesto - it has about as much relevance.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2005, 02:54:34 PM »

We have limits in Britain (no alcohol after 11pm, though this law has been loosened somewhat in the last decade and doesn't apply to nightclubs, for instance), which has basically turned us into the biggest binge drinkers in Europe. Emphatically, No.

Yeah, the 11pm rule is pretty stupid; a little tip for anyone here than might come over to the U.K fairly soon (the law is being changed at the moment so this won't apply next year. Probably) don't ever go near a city centre at 11pm or for quite a while afterwards. Bad, bad, bad idea.

As for the question, I think it should be up to local government.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2005, 03:19:41 PM »

We have limits in Britain (no alcohol after 11pm, though this law has been loosened somewhat in the last decade and doesn't apply to nightclubs, for instance), which has basically turned us into the biggest binge drinkers in Europe. Emphatically, No.

Yeah, the 11pm rule is pretty stupid; a little tip for anyone here than might come over to the U.K fairly soon (the law is being changed at the moment so this won't apply next year. Probably) don't ever go near a city centre at 11pm or for quite a while afterwards. Bad, bad, bad idea.

As for the question, I think it should be up to local government.

Why do you people put up with those practices?
That's disturbance of the public peace if I've ever seen it.
Moral values really have gone down under Labour. Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2005, 03:26:39 PM »

I oppose these laws as they are regulations on the market.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2005, 03:34:16 PM »

Why do you people put up with those practices?

Depends what you mean by "put up with". Most people look down on binge drinkers and attempts to crack down on it (and other forms of anti-social behavior) are generally very popular. A good trick for an aspiring local politician in somewhere like Leeds or Manchester is to complain about the mess drunken students (from outside the city) make. Worth a few votes every time.
Not that there's a lot that can be done about it with the current licencing system though; most people just avoid areas with a lot of pubs, at closing time.

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Current licencing system has been around since WW1 or so. Blame the Liberals Tongue

The 11pm limit is going to be scrapped soon anyway; it may be to late to reverse the trend though. Which is why I support giving local government a lot of nice new powers over who can sell alcohol and when.
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2005, 03:37:14 PM »

no
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