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Question: Should Kavanaugh withdraw?
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No, Trump should do it
 
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Brittain33
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2018, 01:43:52 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever, and it's frightening to see Atlas posters fall into this hysterical mob mentality.

Are you really surprised that they are doing this though? Since when do democrats need so much as a shred of proof to carry out a character assassination?

The accuser told her husband about Kavanaugh's alleged assault in 2002 and reported it to her therapist in 2012 who took notes about it. She knows she is going to have her own life destroyed by coming forward.
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2018, 01:46:21 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever

She spoke with her husband about it in 2002 and her therapist took notes on it in 2012.
And Roy Moore signed that girls yearbook

Right. And?
You know that was proven to be a lie right?
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2018, 01:48:37 PM »

It will put him up to unwelcome scrutiny, and quite possibly mess up his family life. 
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2018, 01:50:59 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever

She spoke with her husband about it in 2002 and her therapist took notes on it in 2012.
And Roy Moore signed that girls yearbook

Right. And?
You know that was proven to be a lie right?
Nope. He wrote in her yearbook (although 40 years later he denied having met her), and at the time she added who he was and the date. Here's Snopes:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/moore-accuser-yearbook/
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2018, 02:08:27 PM »

Friendly reminder:

This. Is. Not. A. Trial.

"Innocent until proven guilty" has no bearing on this whatsoever.
So Keith Ellison should resign then I assume?
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2018, 02:08:41 PM »

At this point, no.

I think we need more information. 
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2018, 02:11:05 PM »

Yes, he should. If he is the God-fearing Christian that his supporters see him as he should view this as God not wanting him on the Supreme Court and having another plan for him.
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2018, 02:16:36 PM »

If he did it then yes, if not then no.
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2018, 02:37:01 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever, and it's frightening to see Atlas posters fall into this hysterical mob mentality.

Remember America vs. Atlas.

Three weeks after the Access Hollywood tape, states voted for Trump that hadn't voted that way in a generation. Sometimes they get too trigger happy.
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2018, 03:38:03 PM »

It's really amazing that Trump didn't pick Hardiman, in retrospect. Hardiman would've probably sailed right through.
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2018, 03:39:38 PM »

Of course he should. In any decent world, he already would have.
Have you ever wondered if he was, you know, innocent of these charges?

I didn't know this was a trial?
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2018, 03:41:59 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever, and it's frightening to see Atlas posters fall into this hysterical mob mentality.

It's frightening to see cultists redefined the concept of no proof whatsoever. Especially after whooping and hollering about emails and Benghazi for 2 years. But hey, cultists got to cult.
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2018, 03:43:36 PM »

Yes.

Frankly, Trump should do the right thing and not pick anyone else until after the 2020 elections (if he wins).
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2018, 03:48:02 PM »

I'd like to see testimony first, but overall, he is always going to be tainted by this, and he was already a flawed nominee to begin with.

It's bad enough Thomas was confirmed to the bench. Putting another justice on there who may be guilty of attempted rape is going to hurt the Supreme Court's reputation even more. The Republican Party, America, the Supreme Court - everyone (except BK) - would be better off if Republicans went with someone else.

It's been almost 30 years since the Thomas hearings, but i r c, what cabinet is accused of doing is far worse than anything Thomas ever did. Though In fairness, Thomas was a grown adult and, both ironically in tragically, chairman of the equal employment opportunity commission, when he engaged in Acts of sexual harassment on the job.
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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2018, 03:50:43 PM »

Of course he should. In any decent world, he already would have.
Have you ever wondered if he was, you know, innocent of these charges?

I didn't know this was a trial?
Should Keith Ellison stand down because some woman claimed he beat her twenty years ago?
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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2018, 03:51:48 PM »

Of course he should. In any decent world, he already would have.
Have you ever wondered if he was, you know, innocent of these charges?

I didn't know this was a trial?
Should Keith Ellison stand down because some woman claimed he beat her twenty years ago?

Yes.

See, it's not that hard.
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« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2018, 04:45:40 PM »

The voters have a say in whether or not Ellison is elected Attorney General of his state, but the same cannot be said of Kavanaugh. Lifetime appointments have to be carefully evaluated.
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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2018, 04:46:32 PM »

It's really amazing that Trump didn't pick Hardiman, in retrospect. Hardiman would've probably sailed right through.

Yup.

Privately, McConnell is likely really pissed about all of this. Kavanaugh was always going to be harder to confirm then the other candidates, due to his years with Bush.

Picking him was such a pointless risk (unless your only concern is getting some on the bench who could bail you out when you potentially get indicted for conspiracy.)

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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2018, 05:14:21 PM »

It's really amazing that Trump didn't pick Hardiman, in retrospect. Hardiman would've probably sailed right through.

I remember some online conservatives saying they thought Hardiman had the highest risk of being another Souter and that's why people were nudging Trump away from him.
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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2018, 05:32:27 PM »

It's really amazing that Trump didn't pick Hardiman, in retrospect. Hardiman would've probably sailed right through.

I remember some online conservatives saying they thought Hardiman had the highest risk of being another Souter and that's why people were nudging Trump away from him.

Those conservatives you're referring to must not be part of the Federalist Society, because everyone on Trump's list had been selected by the Federalist Society, as I recall.
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« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2018, 05:36:53 PM »

It's really amazing that Trump didn't pick Hardiman, in retrospect. Hardiman would've probably sailed right through.

I remember some online conservatives saying they thought Hardiman had the highest risk of being another Souter and that's why people were nudging Trump away from him.

Those conservatives you're referring to must not be part of the Federalist Society, because everyone on Trump's list had been selected by the Federalist Society, as I recall.

Hardiman was the most moderate of all of Trumps shortlist:

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« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2018, 05:45:42 PM »

It's really amazing that Trump didn't pick Hardiman, in retrospect. Hardiman would've probably sailed right through.

I remember some online conservatives saying they thought Hardiman had the highest risk of being another Souter and that's why people were nudging Trump away from him.

Those conservatives you're referring to must not be part of the Federalist Society, because everyone on Trump's list had been selected by the Federalist Society, as I recall.

Hardiman was the most moderate of all of Trumps shortlist:



I wonder where Amy Barrett would be on that graph.
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« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2018, 05:49:03 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever, and it's frightening to see Atlas posters fall into this hysterical mob mentality.
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« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2018, 06:22:12 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever, and it's frightening to see Atlas posters fall into this hysterical mob mentality.

DavidB., the accuser told her husband about Kavanaugh's assault in 2002 and also told her therapist about it in 2012, and the therapist recorded it in her notes.
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« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2018, 06:26:52 PM »

There's literally no proof of this whatsoever, and it's frightening to see Atlas posters fall into this hysterical mob mentality.
DavidB., the accuser told her husband about Kavanaugh's assault in 2002 and also told her therapist about it in 2012, and the therapist recorded it in her notes.
Yes, that's what accusers tend to do. Accuse.
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