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« on: October 15, 2005, 08:08:17 AM »

Abortion is the number one hot button issue because the GOP set the agenda. But i came across some interesting information on people/organisations that want to take our guns away from us.

Adolf Hitler once said

Der größte Unsinn, den man in den besetzen Ostgebieten machen könnte, sei der, den unterworfenen Völkern Waffen zu geben. Die Geschichte lehre, daß alle Herrenvölker untergegangen seien, nachdem sie den von ihnen unterworfenen Volkern Waffen bewilligt hatten. [The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.]

-- Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitlers Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942. [Hitler's Table-Talk at the Fuhrer's Headquarters 1941-1942], Dr. Henry Picker, ed. (Athenaum-Verlag, Bonn, 1951)

Yep Five out of Five Tyrrants ask support Gun Control.
Here is a List of the Anti's.
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AFL-CIO
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities
American Association of Retired Persons
American Association of School Administrators
American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
American Association for World Health
American Association of Neurological Surgeons
American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
American Bar Association
American Civil Liberties Union
American Counseling Association
American Ethical Union
American Federation of Teachers
American Firearms Association
American Jewish Committee
American Jewish Congress
American Medical Association
American Medical Women's Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Trauma Society
Americans for Democratic Action
Anti-Defamation League
Association of American Medical Colleges
B'nai B'rith
Black Mental Health Alliance
Central Conference of American Rabbis
Children s Defense Fund
Church of the Brethren
Coalition for Peace Action
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
College Democrats of America
Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse & World Peace
Common Cause
Congress of National Black Churches, Inc.
Congress of Neurological Surgeons
Consumer Federation of America
Council of Chief State School Officers
Council of the Great City Schools
Dehere Foundation
Disarm Educational Fund
Environmental Action Foundation
Episcopal Church, USA
Episcopal Church-Washington Office
Florence and John Shumann Foundation
Friends Committee on National Legislation
General Federation of Women's Clubs
George Gund FundAmbulatory Pediatric Association
Gray Panthers
H.M. Strong Foundation
Hadassah
Harris Foundation
Hechinger Foundation
Int'l Association of Educators for World Peace
Int'l Ladies' Garment Workers' Union
Interfaith Neighbors
Jewish Labor Committee
Joyce Foundation
Lauder Foundation
Lawrence Foundation
League of Women Voters of the United States*
Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Manhattan Project II
Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office
National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Children's Hospitals and Related Institutions
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
National Association of Police Organizations
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers
National Association of Elementary School Principals*
National Association of Public Hospitals
National Association of Secondary School Principals
National Association of Counties*
National Association of Community Health Centers
National Black Nurses' Association
National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Commission for Economic Conversion & Disarmament
National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
National Council of Jewish Women
National Council on Family Relations
National Council of La Raza
National Council of Negro Women
National Education Association*
National League of Cities
National Network for Youth
National Organization for Women
National Organization on Disability
National Parent, Teachers Association*
National Parks and Conservation Association
National Peace Foundation
National People's Action
National Political Congress of Black Women
National Safe Kids Campaign
National SAFE KIDS Campaign
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
National Urban League, Inc.
National Urban Coalition
NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Ortenberg Foundation
Peace Action
People for the American Way
Physicians for Social Responsibility
Police Foundation
Project on Demilitarization and Democracy
Public Citizen
SaferWorld
Society of Critical Care Medicine
Southern Christian Leadership Conference
The Council of the Great City Schools
The Synergetic Society
U.S. Catholic Conference, Dept. of Social Development
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
Unitarian Universalist Association
United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society*
United Methodist Church, General Board & Church Society
United States Catholic Conference
United States Conference of Mayors
War and Peace Foundation
Women Strike for Peace
Women's Action for New Directions (WAND)
Women's Int'l League for Peace and Freedom
Women's National Democratic Club
World Spiritual Assembly, Inc.
YWCA of the U.S.A
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2005, 08:09:46 AM »

and the celebrities - i hope i havent forgotten anyone.

Aaliyah - Singer
Krista Allen - Actress
Steve Allen - Entertainer*
Suzy Amis - Actress
Louis Anderson - Comedian
Richard Dean Anderson - Actor
David Arquette - Actor
Ed Asner - Actor
Alec Baldwin - Actor
Bob Barker - TV Personality
Carol Bayer Sager - Composer
Drew Barrymore - Actress
Kevin Bacon - Actor
Lauren Bacall - Actress*
Sarah Ban Breathnach - Writer
William Baldwin - Actor
Candice Bergen - Actress
Richard Belzer - Actor
Tony Bennett - Singer
Boys II Men - Pop Group
Jon Bon Jovi - Singer
Peter Bogdonovich - Director
Peter Bonerz - Actor
Albert Brooks - Actor
Beau Bridges - Actor
Benjamin Bratt - Actor
Bonnie Bruckheimer - Movie Producer
Christie Brinkley - Model
Dr. Joyce Brothers - Psychologist/Author
James Brolin - Actor
James Brooks - TV Producer
Mel Brooks - Actor/Director
Steven Brill - Author
Betty Buckley - Actress
Ellen Burstyn - Actress
David Canary - Actor
Kate Capshaw - Actress
Josh Charles - Actor
Julia Child - Author/Chef*
Robert Chartloff - Producer
Stockard Channing - Actress
Russell Simmons - Record Producer
Jill Clayburgh - Actress
Rosemary Clooney - Singer
Terri Clark - Singer
Jackie Cooper - Actor/Director*
Jennifer Connolly - Actress
Judy Collins - Singer
Kevin Costner - Actor
Sean Connery - Actor
Hume Cronyn - Actor*
Sheryl Crow - Singer
Walter Cronkite - Frmr News Anchor
July Cypher - Director
Arlene Dahl - Actress
Clive Davis - Writer
Linda Dano - Actress
Matt Damon - Actor
Pam Dawber - Actress
Patrika Darbo - Actress
Stuart Damon - Actor
Ellen Degeneres - Actress
Gavin de Becker - Writer
Rebecca DeMornay - Actress
Michael Douglas - Actor
Phil Donahue - Frmr Talk Show Host
Richard Donner - Director
Fran Drescher - Actress
Richard Dreyfus - Actor
David Duchovny - Actor
Sandy Duncan - Actress
Christine Ebersole - Actress
Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds - Singer
Missy Elliott - Singer
Nora Ephron - Director
Gloria Estefan - Singer
Melissa Etheridge - Singer
Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. - Actor*
Mia Farrow - Actress
Mike Farrell - Actor
Carrie Fisher - Actress
Sally Field - Actress
Doug Flutie - NFL player
Fannie Flagg - Actress
Jane Fonda - Actress
Rick Fox - NBA Player
Andy Garcia - Actor
Art Garfunkel - Singer
Estelle Getty - Actress
Geraldo - TV personality
Richard Gere - Actor
Kathie Lee Gifford - TV personality
Paul Glaser - TV director
Brad Gooch - Writer
Elliott Gould - Actor
Louis Gossett, Jr. - Actor
Michael Gross - Actor
Nancy Lee Grahn - Actress
Spalding Gray - Actor
Bryant Gumbel - TV Personality
Deidra Hall - Actress
Ethan Hawke - Actor
Mariette Hartley - Actress
Mark Harmon - Actor
Anne Heche - Actress
Howard Hessman - Actor
Marilu Henner - Actress
Hal Holbrook - Actor*
Whitney Houston - Singer
Helen Hunt - Actress
Grace-Lynne Ingle - Actress
John Ingle - Actor
Francesca James - TV Producer
Norman Jewison - Director
Lainie Kazan - Actress
Richard Karn - Actor
Barry Kemp - TV Producer
Margaret Kemp - Interior Designer
David E. Kelley - TV Producer
Diane Keaton - Actress
Chaka Khan - Singer
Kevin Kline - Actor
Michael E. Knight - Actor
Jonathan Kozol - Writer
William Kovacs - Director
Lenny Kravits - Singer
Lisa Kudrow - Actress
Wally Kurth - Actor
Christine Lahti - Actress
k.d. lang - Singer
Ricki Lake - TV personality
Denis Leary - Actor
Jack Lemmon - Actor*
John Leguizamo - Actor
Norman Lear - TV Producer
Spike Lee - Director
Hal Linden - Actor
Lisa Linde - Actress
Tara Lipinski - Former Olympian
Jack Lord - Actor
Keyshawn Johnson - NFL player
Rob Lowe - Actor
Amanda Marshall - Singer
Barry Manilow - Singer
Camryn Manheim - Actress
Howie Mandel - Actor
Kyle MacLachlan - Actor
Madonna - Singer
Marla Maples - Actress
Marsha Mason - Actress*
Mase - Singer
Penny Marshall - Director
Prema Mathai-Davis - YWCA Official
John McDaniel - Musician
Brian McKnight - Musician
Ed McMahon - TV personality
Natalie Merchant - Singer
Bette Midler - Singer
Shane Minor - Musician
Mary Tyler Moore - Actress
Norval Morris - Law Professor
Mike Myers - Actor
N Sync - Singer
Kathy Najimy - Actress
Paul Newman - Actor
Harry Nilson - Singer
Jack Nicholson - Actor
Leonard Nimoy - Actor
Mike Nichols - Director
Stephen Nichols - Actor
Rosie O'Donnel - Actress/Talk Show Host
Jennifer O Neill - Actress
Julia Ormond - Actress
Jane Pauley - TV Personality
Sarah Jessica Parker - Actress
Gregory Peck - Actor*
Michelle Pfieffer - Actress
Sydney Pollack - Director
Aidan Quinn - Actor
Colin Quinn - Actor
Dennis Quaid - Actor
Elizabeth Bracco Quinn - Actress
Bonnie Raitt - Singer
Debbie Reynolds - Actress
Mary Lou Retton - Former Olympian
Paul Reiser - Actor
Peter Reckell - Actor
Rob Reiner - Actor/Director
Robert Redford - Actor/Director
Anne Rice - Writer
Cathy Rigby - Actress
Natasha Richardson - Actress
Fred Rogers - Mr. Rogers
Julia Roberts - Actress
Marc Rosen - TV Producer
Tim Robbins - Actor
Will Rogers, Jr. - Actor
Renee Russo - Actress
Robin Ruzan - Wife of Mike Myers
Meg Ryan - Actress
Susan Sarandon - Actress
Jerry Seinfeld - Actor
Kyra Sedgwick - Actress
Neil Simon - Playwright*
Louise Sorel - Actress
Mira Sorvino - Actress
Rena Sofer - Actress
Britany Spears - Singer
Bruce Springsteen - Singer
Kevin Spirtas - Actor
Barbra Streisand - Singer
David Steinberg - Director
Harry Dean Stanton - Actor
Meryl Streep - Actress
Patrick Stewart - Actor
Rod Steiger - Actor*
Sharon Stone - Actress
Sting - Singer
Trudie Styler - Actress
Jonathan Taylor Thomas - Actor
The Temptations - Pop Group
Vinny Testaverde - NFL player
Marlo Thomas - Actress*
Uma Thurman - Actress
Steve Tisch - Producer
Mike Torrez - Former Baseball player
Shania Twain - Singer
Dick Van Dyke - Actor
Eli Wallach - Actor*
Ruth Warrick - Actress
Harvey Weinstein - Producer
Jann Wenner - Publisher
Sigourney Weaver - Actress
Victor Webster - Actor
James Whitmore - Actor*
Andy Williams - Singer*
Henry Winkler - Actor
Oprah Winfrey - Entertainer
Richard Widmark - Actor
Rita Wilson - Actress
Venassa Williams - Singer
Herman Wouk - Author
Joanne Woodward - Actress*
Peter Yarrow - Singer
Ahmet Zappa
Diva Zappa
Dweezil Zappa - Musician
Gail Zappa
Moon Zappa
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2005, 08:12:16 AM »

What an impressive list.  After looking at a few of the names, I'd have to say that whatever they're for, I'm against.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2005, 08:25:40 AM »

What an impressive list.  After looking at a few of the names, I'd have to say that whatever they're for, I'm against.

 i thought exactly the same. its so scary. if abortion is banned these people will come the woodwork and say now lets ban guns.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2005, 08:27:07 AM »

my favourite is tara lipinski. she hired a guy to cripple her rival. she likes to do people rather than shoot them.
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2005, 08:51:51 AM »

my favourite is tara lipinski. she hired a guy to cripple her rival. she likes to do people rather than shoot them.

You're thinking Tonya Harding.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2005, 08:53:21 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2005, 08:54:17 AM »

my favourite is tara lipinski. she hired a guy to cripple her rival. she likes to do people rather than shoot them.

You're thinking Tonya Harding.

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2005, 08:56:57 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2005, 09:00:44 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.

Ugh, please get out of the Democratic Party and join the Religious Party, you vile intolerant!
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2005, 09:05:21 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.

Ugh, please get out of the Democratic Party and join the Religious Party, you vile intolerant!

how am i intolerant? you cant have gay groups encouraging CHILDREN at the age of 13 to say look its good to come out and say your gay! 13 i repeat 13! this is ridiculous.

i do more for the democratic party than most people. i will be in Pennslyvania to rid of the jerk santorum. dont tell me what i am, i know what i am. i have been smeared but i wont stop in what i believe in.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2005, 09:08:40 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.

Ugh, please get out of the Democratic Party and join the Religious Party, you vile intolerant!

how am i intolerant? you cant have gay groups encouraging CHILDREN at the age of 13 to say look its good to come out and say your gay! 13 i repeat 13! this is ridiculous.

i do more for the democratic party than most people. i will be in Pennslyvania to rid of the jerk santorum. dont tell me what i am, i know what i am. i have been smeared but i wont stop in what i believe in.

Never mind opebo - he's a hypocrite who likes to call others intolerant when he himself is an intolerant jackass.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2005, 09:09:11 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.

Ugh, please get out of the Democratic Party and join the Religious Party, you vile intolerant!

how am i intolerant? you cant have gay groups encouraging CHILDREN at the age of 13 to say look its good to come out and say your gay! 13 i repeat 13! this is ridiculous.

No, it isn't.  This a reasonable age (even younger would be better) to begin to help these children fight society's bigotry.  

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2005, 09:09:48 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.

Ugh, please get out of the Democratic Party and join the Religious Party, you vile intolerant!

how am i intolerant? you cant have gay groups encouraging CHILDREN at the age of 13 to say look its good to come out and say your gay! 13 i repeat 13! this is ridiculous.

i do more for the democratic party than most people. i will be in Pennslyvania to rid of the jerk santorum. dont tell me what i am, i know what i am. i have been smeared but i wont stop in what i believe in.

Never mind opebo - he's a hypocrite who likes to call others intolerant when he himself is an intolerant jackass.

I am completely tolerant - in that I will not tolerate intolerance.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2005, 09:12:04 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.

Ugh, please get out of the Democratic Party and join the Religious Party, you vile intolerant!

how am i intolerant? you cant have gay groups encouraging CHILDREN at the age of 13 to say look its good to come out and say your gay! 13 i repeat 13! this is ridiculous.

i do more for the democratic party than most people. i will be in Pennslyvania to rid of the jerk santorum. dont tell me what i am, i know what i am. i have been smeared but i wont stop in what i believe in.

Never mind opebo - he's a hypocrite who likes to call others intolerant when he himself is an intolerant jackass.

I am completely tolerant - in that I will not tolerate intolerance.

Blah blah blah. You want to feed religious people to animals - you are an intolerant jackass through and through, so don't pretend you aren't.
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2005, 09:18:49 AM »

so its acceptable for your son to come home at 13 and say 'mom, dad' this is my boyfriend ken. i was wonderring if he could stay over tonight?
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2005, 09:18:56 AM »

Blah blah blah. You want to feed religious people to animals - you are an intolerant jackass through and through, so don't pretend you aren't.

I only want to feed them to the lions because of their intolerance.

so its acceptable for your son to come home at 13 and say 'mom, dad' this is my boyfriend ken. i was wonderring if he could stay over tonight?

Absolutely!  Why wouldn't it be?
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2005, 09:21:32 AM »

Blah blah blah. You want to feed religious people to animals - you are an intolerant jackass through and through, so don't pretend you aren't.

I only want to feed them to the lions because of their intolerance.

Only what you subjectively view as intolerance, prude.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2005, 09:23:47 AM »
« Edited: October 15, 2005, 11:39:06 AM by opebo »

Blah blah blah. You want to feed religious people to animals - you are an intolerant jackass through and through, so don't pretend you aren't.

I only want to feed them to the lions because of their intolerance.

Only what you subjectively view as intolerance, prude.

No, there is nothing subjective about it.  They believe in objective morality, and are therefore by definition intolerant.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2005, 09:25:40 AM »

Blah blah blah. You want to feed religious people to animals - you are an intolerant jackass through and through, so don't pretend you aren't.

I only want to feed them to the lions because of their intolerance.

so its acceptable for your son to come home at 13 and say 'mom, dad' this is my boyfriend ken. i was wonderring if he could stay over tonight?

Absolutely!  Why wouldn't it be?


its illegal! and the parents should be arrested and thrown in jail. imagine it hows your son? 'oh hes fine, he has a boyfriend called ken who stays over every now and then' your sons 13 right? yes i dont have a problem with him being gay? yes but 13!
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2005, 09:28:02 AM »

Blah blah blah. You want to feed religious people to animals - you are an intolerant jackass through and through, so don't pretend you aren't.

I only want to feed them to the lions because of their intolerance.

so its acceptable for your son to come home at 13 and say 'mom, dad' this is my boyfriend ken. i was wonderring if he could stay over tonight?

Absolutely!  Why wouldn't it be?


its illegal! and the parents should be arrested and thrown in jail. imagine it hows your son? 'oh hes fine, he has a boyfriend called ken who stays over every now and then' your sons 13 right? yes i dont have a problem with him being gay? yes but 13!

How is it illegal?  Assuming Ken is also around 13, anyway under 18, I suppose it is legal, isn't it?  Anyway as you probably know I would like to do away with age-of-consent laws.
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2005, 09:30:49 AM »

Straight people should be allowed to have sex legally at 15. We as a society aren't ready for gay buttons saying 'i like boys bottoms'
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2005, 10:08:20 AM »

I only want to feed them to the lions because of their intolerance.

Hypocrisy at its finest!
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2005, 10:16:59 AM »

I find your posts difficult to follow, Miss Catholic.  Are you a gun freak?

I'm pro gun, against gay marriage, against abortion, i believe in god but i am accused of being a far left liberal because the way i attack people. i say i am a populist democrat.

i am a homophobe - dont like how gays are so open about being gay at like 13! (how can you make such a decision), i am against abortion but i dont want it banned as they will then try and take my gun away. if i have no gun, i only have a baseball bat and i cant hit hard.

Every man's dream Wink   Very honest though - commendable.
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2005, 11:41:34 AM »

Straight people should be allowed to have sex legally at 15. We as a society aren't ready for gay buttons saying 'i like boys bottoms'

Oh?  How about we 'aren't ready for' women voting, negros running around free (and having sex with white women), or Jews being allowed into the country club?  You are a disgusting traditional religious intolerant, Miss, and you should join the Religious Party.
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