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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2018, 11:51:04 AM »

The FBI literally dismissed this report  as BS really quickly . That indicates this document was more of a smear document than anything

Wait....Republicans believe the FBI now? What happened to all that deep state nonsense
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2018, 11:52:17 AM »

The FBI literally dismissed this report  as BS really quickly . That indicates this document was more of a smear document than anything

Wait....Republicans believe the FBI now? What happened to all that deep state nonsense

I never was one of those Republicans
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2018, 11:55:46 AM »

This gives red state Democrats an easy out. If Kavanaugh is confirmed with this information out there the Senate is gone for Republicans. His confirmation isn't going to stop more details from being released and if that happens it's an electoral nightmare. It isn't 1991 anymore.

Yep, no reason for any Dems to vote for Kavanaugh now, unless/until this is cleared up. Not voting for Kavanaugh now won't even hurt Heitkamp.

And then there is the question of Collins/Murkowski. Can Murkowski stomach supporting Kavanaugh with this in the air? And can Collins' political future stomach it?
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2018, 11:56:31 AM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2018, 11:59:28 AM »

"Sixty-five women who knew Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh in high school have testified to his good character in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, in light of recently surfaced allegations that he tried to force himself on a girl during his time at Georgetown Preparatory School."

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/14/17860488/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-georgetown-prep-defense

I mean, none of this matters, Republicans will happily vote for him even if the claim can be substantiated, but what a bizarre and unbelievable defense Grassley prepared for this. Kavanugh is 53-years-old and went to an all boys' school. There is zero chance he can name 65 women he remembers from the time he was a teenager.

So the report comes out yesterday, and, less than a day later, the GOP somehow produces a letter from 65 different women saying he never assaulted them.

Is it just me, or did they release that letter a little too quickly?
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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2018, 12:01:45 PM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

The issue that's present here that isn't basically anywhere else is that this is a lifetime appointment to an extremely powerful position from which he will never be removed until he wants to.
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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2018, 12:07:28 PM »

This accusation, until it is more credible, should not be used against Kavanaugh.

Kavanuagh should be rejected because of his far right conservative activism and lack of objective principles.
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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2018, 12:09:33 PM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is the standard the jurors use to view defendants. No individual person is ever bound to use it in forming their personal opinions, except in the above context.

You know this. But you'd rather pwn the libs or whatever.
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2018, 12:11:04 PM »

What's the source that the FBI has "dismissed" this? It's not in the article from the OP
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2018, 12:12:24 PM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

This is not a court of law, it is a forum. No one on this forum has the ability to ruin anyone's career. With that said personal opinions are not required to be based on anything constitutional.
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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2018, 12:13:09 PM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is the standard the jurors use to view defendants. No individual person is ever bound to use it in forming their personal opinions, except in the above context.

You know this. But you'd rather pwn the libs or whatever.

There isnt even enough evidence to  begin an investigation , so all this is the Democrats throwing out fake news to smear Kavanaugh.
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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2018, 12:14:25 PM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

Imagine their response if a Republican on the judicial committee held on to a document like this, and only released it when their efforts to stop a Democratic Judge was failing.
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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2018, 12:15:40 PM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is the standard the jurors use to view defendants. No individual person is ever bound to use it in forming their personal opinions, except in the above context.

You know this. But you'd rather pwn the libs or whatever.

I think this is the point: given the amount of information that is classified as confidential with Kavanaugh, it's impossible to test the seriousness of this allegation (these allegations?) one way or the other.
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« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2018, 12:17:13 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2018, 12:21:51 PM by 136or142 »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

Imagine their response if a Republican on the judicial committee held on to a document like this, and only released it when their efforts to stop a Democratic Judge was failing.

This is a false analogy because no Democratic Justice nominee has ever had anywhere near the amount of documentation held back as confidential.
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« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2018, 12:20:36 PM »

Atlas left logic: Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to those accused of sexual assault. Let's just ruin someone's career and #LockHimUp over one accusation that happened decades ago and has already been dismissed.

Imagine their response if a Republican on the judicial committee held on to a document like this, and only released it when their efforts to stop a Democratic Judge was failing.

Your party didn't let my party's last SC nominee even get to this stage
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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2018, 12:24:09 PM »

This accusation, until it is more credible, should not be used against Kavanaugh.

Kavanuagh should be rejected because of his far right conservative activism and lack of objective principles.
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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2018, 12:25:37 PM »



*pandaguineapig approves*
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2018, 12:28:45 PM »



*pandaguineapig approves*

If its from that document then the fact is the FBI looked at it and immediately dismissed it.

Unless there is an actual accusation, the whole thing is a smear job.


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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2018, 12:30:37 PM »

This might actually boost Kavanaugh's favourability with right-leaners. Look at how Roy Moore/DJT gained electric and devoted hordes of followers after the kiddie diddler drama/Access Hollywood. There's nothing conservatives love more than a man throwing his weight around on vulnerable children/women. It's why Bill Clinton was also looked upon favourably by some conservatives.
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« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2018, 12:31:52 PM »

This might actually boost Kavanaugh's favourability with right-leaners. Look at how Roy Moore/DJT gained electric and devoted hordes of followers after the kiddie diddler drama/Access Hollywood.

Roy Moore lost due to Republicans deciding to stay home and not vote for such an evil person.


Also his accusations were credible while these are not
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« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2018, 12:33:29 PM »

This might actually boost Kavanaugh's favourability with right-leaners. Look at how Roy Moore/DJT gained electric and devoted hordes of followers after the kiddie diddler drama/Access Hollywood.

Roy Moore lost


Also his accusations were credible while these are not

...by the skin of his teeth with a sharp majority of GOP voters backing him. There are some that truther'd Moore's accusations too. Some in this very forum.
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« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2018, 12:34:05 PM »



*pandaguineapig approves*
Cool any evidence for this, anything that suggests the FBI was wrong to dismiss this?
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« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2018, 12:36:14 PM »

Suddenly, conservatives are huge fans of the FBI again. *cough*Comey*cough*
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« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2018, 12:39:31 PM »

The FBI literally dismissed this report  as BS really quickly . That indicates this document was more of a smear document than anything

So now the FBI is credible? Good to know!
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« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2018, 12:41:11 PM »

The FBI literally dismissed this report  as BS really quickly . That indicates this document was more of a smear document than anything

FBI did no such thing. They gave it to the WH as apart of the vetting process (which is what they are suppose to do). FBI is in no position to turn this into a criminal matter, that would be up to the local authorities.
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