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« on: September 13, 2018, 08:14:42 AM »

U.S. Has Highest Share of Foreign-Born Since 1910, With More Coming From Asia

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2018, 09:20:38 AM »

Great news!
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2018, 09:35:23 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2018, 12:03:14 PM »


Nah, immigration is an unalloyed positive, so this is great news, not indifferent news.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2018, 01:09:06 PM »

I don't really see a reason to celebrate or groan. It's just what it is.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2018, 01:11:48 PM »


Nah, immigration is an unalloyed positive, so this is great news, not indifferent news.

Why is this great news for American citizens?

Why is immigration an unalloyed positive for people who are American citizens?

When I view something as an unalloyed positive, I have specific reasons for doing so, and I really want to hear yours.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2018, 01:23:14 PM »
« Edited: September 13, 2018, 01:29:40 PM by Tintrlvr »


Nah, immigration is an unalloyed positive, so this is great news, not indifferent news.

Why is this great news for American citizens?

Why is immigration an unalloyed positive for people who are American citizens?

When I view something as an unalloyed positive, I have specific reasons for doing so, and I really want to hear yours.

Immigrants (in peacetime) are generally the most able, dynamic, innovative, risk-taking and creative people from the society from which they come. This is true by the mere fact of their being willing to uproot themselves from an established existence with family and friendship support networks to take a risk on a new and unfamiliar society. For those of us who live here already, having those people come to us can only be a positive, especially since we who stay in the same society where we were born are only, on average, average in ability, dynamism, innovation, risk-taking and creativity. Societies with more immigrants are therefore unequivocally better than those with few.

Edit: I will grant you that it is not particularly great news for India, China, Mexico, etc. I obviously speak only from an American perspective.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2018, 02:11:32 PM »


Nah, immigration is an unalloyed positive, so this is great news, not indifferent news.

Why is this great news for American citizens?

Why is immigration an unalloyed positive for people who are American citizens?

When I view something as an unalloyed positive, I have specific reasons for doing so, and I really want to hear yours.

Immigrants (in peacetime) are generally the most able, dynamic, innovative, risk-taking and creative people from the society from which they come. This is true by the mere fact of their being willing to uproot themselves from an established existence with family and friendship support networks to take a risk on a new and unfamiliar society. For those of us who live here already, having those people come to us can only be a positive, especially since we who stay in the same society where we were born are only, on average, average in ability, dynamism, innovation, risk-taking and creativity. Societies with more immigrants are therefore unequivocally better than those with few.

Edit: I will grant you that it is not particularly great news for India, China, Mexico, etc. I obviously speak only from an American perspective.

Do you have statistics or just platitudes?
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2018, 02:43:23 PM »


Nah, immigration is an unalloyed positive, so this is great news, not indifferent news.

Why is this great news for American citizens?

Why is immigration an unalloyed positive for people who are American citizens?

When I view something as an unalloyed positive, I have specific reasons for doing so, and I really want to hear yours.

Immigrants (in peacetime) are generally the most able, dynamic, innovative, risk-taking and creative people from the society from which they come. This is true by the mere fact of their being willing to uproot themselves from an established existence with family and friendship support networks to take a risk on a new and unfamiliar society. For those of us who live here already, having those people come to us can only be a positive, especially since we who stay in the same society where we were born are only, on average, average in ability, dynamism, innovation, risk-taking and creativity. Societies with more immigrants are therefore unequivocally better than those with few.

Edit: I will grant you that it is not particularly great news for India, China, Mexico, etc. I obviously speak only from an American perspective.

Do you have statistics or just platitudes?

The high levels of educational attainment and family income among Indian Americans is an example of this. US immigration law generally selects for highly educated, affluent, and white-collar immigrants from Asia; this is particularly true for Indian immigrants.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2018, 03:56:32 PM »


Nah, immigration is an unalloyed positive, so this is great news, not indifferent news.

Why is this great news for American citizens?

Why is immigration an unalloyed positive for people who are American citizens?

When I view something as an unalloyed positive, I have specific reasons for doing so, and I really want to hear yours.

Immigrants (in peacetime) are generally the most able, dynamic, innovative, risk-taking and creative people from the society from which they come. This is true by the mere fact of their being willing to uproot themselves from an established existence with family and friendship support networks to take a risk on a new and unfamiliar society. For those of us who live here already, having those people come to us can only be a positive, especially since we who stay in the same society where we were born are only, on average, average in ability, dynamism, innovation, risk-taking and creativity. Societies with more immigrants are therefore unequivocally better than those with few.

Edit: I will grant you that it is not particularly great news for India, China, Mexico, etc. I obviously speak only from an American perspective.

Do you have statistics or just platitudes?

The high levels of educational attainment and family income among Indian Americans is an example of this. US immigration law generally selects for highly educated, affluent, and white-collar immigrants from Asia; this is particularly true for Indian immigrants.

I don't think most foreign-born Americans are from India; the article itself said only 41% of the most recent arrivals came from Asia, and that number has been rising.

And that is great that American immigration laws have a meritocratic basis for immigrants from Asia. You know what would be a great idea? Enforcing those some immigration laws that select for "highly educated, affluent, white-collar immigrants" for Latin America and MENA.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2018, 07:54:49 AM »

We need it, US population growth is near-zero without immigration.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2018, 08:02:47 AM »

No feelings on the matter. People should be judged by what they do, not where they're from.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2018, 09:18:17 AM »

No feelings on the matter. People should be judged by what they do, not where they're from.

This.

That being said I think it’s a positive that more educated, presumably skilled immigrants are arriving than before.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2018, 10:12:22 AM »

Since high levels of immigration reduce crime and increase economic growth, this is great news.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2018, 11:22:09 AM »

Personally, I take this as a sign that we should reduce (but certainly not eliminate) immigration for a while. For me, the issue is primarily that higher levels of immigration have historically given rise to right-wing nativist movements and made it more difficult to pass progressive legislation. Also, we can only assimilate so many people at once.
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2018, 11:32:39 AM »

I am happy for them.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2018, 11:57:27 AM »

Natural population growth in the US has been declining steadily and maybe even accelerating recently.
Baby boomers are entering their retirement years.  We seem likely to continue to have high deficits.  Adding lots of population is about the only way to keep the wheels under the bus.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2018, 10:44:52 AM »
« Edited: September 17, 2018, 12:18:53 PM by Barraco Clintez »

The US population has increased 17 million this decade.  The population over 65 has increased 10.6 million.  The population under 65 has increased 6.4 million.

Baby Boom--------->Retirement Boom--------->Death Boom
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2018, 12:12:34 PM »

No feelings on the matter. People should be judged by what they do, not where they're from.
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