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« on: September 13, 2018, 01:15:26 PM »

Folks, while these numbers are certainly worthy of consideration, can we please all remember that this is literally the first and only poll in this state in almost two and a half months? Perhaps we should get some more data points before reacting to strongly one way or the other?
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2018, 06:17:39 PM »

I thought just hit me. If the AARP had a pole recently showing voters 50 and up preferred Cramer by only three points, does it make any sense that he would be up 4 Points among all voters? Not to me.

The point is, one of those polls almost surely has to be off, so why would it be the AARP pole as opposed to this one?
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2018, 06:54:40 PM »

I thought just hit me. If the AARP had a pole recently showing voters 50 and up preferred Cramer by only three points, does it make any sense that he would be up 4 Points among all voters? Not to me.

The point is, one of those polls almost surely has to be off, so why would it be the AARP pole as opposed to this one?

It is not implausible for Young NDers to be more Republican than older ones.

That said I think this race is probably a bit closer to Dead even

But how is that particularly implausible, though? The fracking argument doesn't make it that much sense because the vast majority of such workers are relatively transient and not likely to be registered voters.

 I'm not saying it's impossible, but one must acknowledge that it would be, compared to national polling results, way way out of the national mainstream for younger voters to lean more Republican than the state as a whole, or even to be relatively split between the parties.

I appreciate the fracking suggestion, but it certainly eager for any others from people who are familiar with North Dakota demographics and politics.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2018, 09:02:56 AM »

The thing to keep in mind about North Dakota polls is North Dakota is pretty much impossible to properly poll. That is because it DOES NOT HAVE VOTER REGISTRATION.

That difficulty of polling the electorate with any accuracy is probably one of the reasons why Heitkamp overperformed the polls in 2012.

Polling people by self identification of party is much more accurate than by actual registration anyway.

And I thought Indiana was the state with screwy poll call prohibitions.
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